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    I'm going to go back to school and finish my BS degree in mathematics. I'm wondering if anybody in here also has a bachelor in Math? I'm still planning on teaching, but if I should decide to do something outside of education, what jobs do you think would hire math majors with little to no business education. Thanks.

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    In case you aren’t aware, many of the courses for teachers are different (K-12), and they vary from state to state. In some states you don’t get a degree in teaching math per se. You have to take the required courses to get certified and then take a minor or electives for extra math emphasis, if you wish. But in many places anyone certified can be a math teacher. For instance my sister in Ohio planned her degree to teach English or Art but ended up as a math teacher because that’s where she was needed. She hates math and struggles with it.

    An example in Tennessee: Someone with a BS in a degree like business or communications would have to go for about 2 or 3 more years full-time to take the required courses to be certified. You would have to retake many of the subjects you already took except specially designed for teachers. And there is no math teacher certification. It is very important to ask the university advisor to evaluate the classes you have already taken to see if they are ok for certification.

    A math degree and a teaching degree are two separate things in a lot of states, so is k-8 or high school certification.
    Last edited by ala; 18 Mar 2008, 9:29 PM. Reason: spelling - wrong word

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      #3
      I admire anybody who can handle that much math. I have a masters but if I had to go back to highschool and pass algebra I, I would be in big trouble. Is there any chance you could attain a dual bachelors - education and separately math. If not, maybe pursue education with math minor.

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        #4
        Sean,

        I've seen web sites where they teach math subject online and also do tutoring. Homework help too. I don't know if you need a certificate to teach math online or not. My guess is no but I could be wrong.

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          #5
          Places that hire math majors? Dependent on getting a security clearence, NSA, NASA, FBI especially if you have Russian or Spanish language background possibly modern Hebrew also (these positions would involve money laudering from drugs, organized crime and terrorism). Foundations and governments from city to national that need statistical work done. Any computer company, hardware or software, if you have applied math skills. And, of course, insurance companies.

          Adino, any distance learning organization that is accredited needs instructors that are certified.
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            #6
            How about an actuary. They are in high demand and the pay is good.

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              #7
              Definitely look into serious software engineering companies, ones into visualization, data mining, software for mechanical engineering, etc. Let me know if there's anything I can help you with here.

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                #8
                Ala is right about the different requirements to teach in various states. If you are planning on teaching in a state other than the one you are going to school in, check out the requirements to be certified to teach there. (I am assuming the school you are going to will know what you need there. )
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                  #9
                  I have a degree in Computer Science and have a math minor. You can hold a variety of jobs with a math major. If its the money your after then definitely anything IT related will pay off.

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                    Originally posted by hardluckhitshome
                    I'm going to go back to school and finish my BS degree in mathematics. I'm wondering if anybody in here also has a bachelor in Math? I'm still planning on teaching, but if I should decide to do something outside of education, what jobs do you think would hire math majors with little to no business education. Thanks.
                    Hardluck, maybe half of the engineers and programmers I worked with at one of our largest defense contractors had degrees in Mathematics, with maybe a course or two in programming - or theory of. Industry in my experience hires people with your desired degree for their critical/logical thinking skills, and feel they can learn on the job whatever is needed.

                    Good luck, math is fun to me. It can be relaxing to solve difficult problems with paper and pencil (and a T-82 calculator). Of course the T-82 is probabaly years obsolete, but it could draw a parabola, so to me that was pretty cool. Even though I liked to draw my own on graph paper
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                      Originally posted by rdf
                      Hardluck, maybe half of the engineers and programmers I worked with at one of our largest defense contractors had degrees in Mathematics, with maybe a course or two in programming - or theory of. Industry in my experience hires people with your desired degree for their critical/logical thinking skills, and feel they can learn on the job whatever is needed.

                      Good luck, math is fun to me. It can be relaxing to solve difficult problems with paper and pencil (and a T-82 calculator). Of course the T-82 is probabaly years obsolete, but it could draw a parabola, so to me that was pretty cool. Even though I liked to draw my own on graph paper
                      Thank you rdf. How did they become engineers though without a degree in engineering? Math is fun for me as well. I love tackling difficult problems.

                      I think being an actuary would be fun as someone suggested. Plus it looks like you don't have to supplement your degree with a bunch of other courses in other fields (computer science, engineering, etc).

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                        Hardluck, in the area of software programming, most anyone can be/is called a "software engineer," regardless of type of degree.
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                          Yah my job title was a "software engineer" even though I don't have an engineering degree. I'm a computer science with a math minor, getting a minor in math is easy when your a comp sci because comp sci is a ton of math and physics.

                          Example of the courses I've taken in my degree:
                          Math:
                          Calc I,II, and III
                          Linear Algebra
                          Differential Equations
                          Discrete Math
                          2 400 level Stat courses

                          Physics:
                          Mechanics
                          Electricity and Magnetism
                          Quantum Physics

                          Languages:
                          Required 2 years of a language (even if you took 2 years in highschool :[ )
                          I took spanish.


                          Other science:
                          Chemistry

                          Hardware:
                          Digital Design
                          Circuit Analysis

                          Computer Science courses:
                          Artificial intelligence
                          Concurrent Software Systems with parallel processing
                          Data Structures and Algorithms
                          A balls load of programming courses(C/C++/Java)
                          Software Engineering
                          Operating Systems
                          Computer Organization and Design
                          Computer Architecture

                          and I still have a year to go before I graduate!

                          Also in all my classes we weren't allowed to use any type of calculator, not even in physics.
                          On homework you could but the exams you weren't allowed. I still recommend buying a nice TI-89 calculator so you can check your work.

                          This also isn't listing all the bullshit classes you have to take like history/art/english, etc



                          They actually do have a software engineering major now, only a few schools have an acrrediated one tho, RIT, Penn State Behrend, and CMU.

                          I've actually have some friends who are math majors and are having a hard time finding a job because all the company's want more than just math, they want a background in engineering, pure math you will most likey end up being a teacher after taking the proper educational courses to be a certified teacher (depending on the state).

                          To get a job in just pure math in the private sector from what I've seen is you need to specialize in something, like perhaps applied math, or statistics. Somthing that can transfer into the business world like Economy or financial analysis. But if you are for sure on wanting to be a teacher, than you'll be fine.
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                            The engineering degree you are thinking of is probably mechanical/civil/electrical and such. Different from a software engineer.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by sjean423
                              The engineering degree you are thinking of is probably mechanical/civil/electrical and such. Different from a software engineer.
                              No they really do have a Software Engineering degree now, and you are a certified engineer if you take the exam.

                              Its kind of pointless because its == to a computer science degree, in fact some frown upon the Software engineering degree because its to specialized, not as broad as a Computer Science major.

                              I could have a double degree in computer science and computer engineering if I took a few more courses in Electrical Engineering, so even computer science is super close to an engineering degree.
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