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    Stupid social security f*&***s.
    I work and I draw a check, so do my kids. I work part time. I have a few medical expenses to get me under the blasted $1000 a month I am allowed to earn.

    Guess what on the months when I happen to get 3 checks in a month (say payday falls on the 1st 15 th and 29th) they are claiming I am over and taking back my checks for these months even though it is obvious the work was done the month before. It seems to me there should be some kind of formula for this.
    For some reason they decided to go back all 5 years doing this even though every year I submit my little 30 cent raise which triggers a review.

    So now they they say I owe and I won't be getting any checks for many months. I thought they could only take a percentage of your check, but when I call in they have never heard of such.

    Working, I can't decide sometimes if its worth it. Then again, I will be glad when I can get a full time job and not have to stay under their thumbs.
    If you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best.


    Sometimes it is easier to widen doors than it is to open minds.

    #2
    Originally posted by addiesue View Post
    Stupid social security f*&***s.
    I work and I draw a check, so do my kids. I work part time. I have a few medical expenses to get me under the blasted $1000 a month I am allowed to earn.

    Guess what on the months when I happen to get 3 checks in a month (say payday falls on the 1st 15 th and 29th) they are claiming I am over and taking back my checks for these months even though it is obvious the work was done the month before. It seems to me there should be some kind of formula for this.
    For some reason they decided to go back all 5 years doing this even though every year I submit my little 30 cent raise which triggers a review.

    So now they they say I owe and I won't be getting any checks for many months. I thought they could only take a percentage of your check, but when I call in they have never heard of such.

    Working, I can't decide sometimes if its worth it. Then again, I will be glad when I can get a full time job and not have to stay under their thumbs.
    You might consider enlisting the help of any constituent services offered by your member of congress and your Senators.
    Foolish

    "We have met the enemy and he is us."-POGO.

    "I have great faith in fools; self-confidence my friends call it."~Edgar Allan Poe

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      #3
      Good to know. Something to watch out for, and had not considered.

      They should be able to figure this out fairly tho! Most people making <$1000 a month are working at an hourly wage. They should turn the number into an average number or something. Paycheck/number of days in pay period or something. So if you get 3 paychecks, (in your case) you would have 42 days in that "pay-month", 2 checks it is a 28 day one.

      People getting paid weekly, w/ 5 paydays in a month would have the same issue.

      Oh, and agree w/ FoolishOld .... can you appeal, write to your congressman, whatever? Any and everything. Do the math, proving that you still made the same amount for the days you worked in the month, etc.

      Also, aren't you allowed to go over a certain # of times? Did they look at that?
      T7-8 since Feb 2005

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        #4
        If you are not working above SGA and are eligible for a benefit payment for the 37th month of the EPE, you will continue to receive benefits until you:

        Work a month at the SGA level, or
        Be careful they don't screw you with this!

        http://www.ssa.gov/redbook/eng/ssdi-...t-supports.htm
        T7-8 since Feb 2005

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          #5
          I was always told if you are disabled.....you could not work at all.
          I have warned people before about this....you take the risk of losing everything.
          All you can do now is talk to a lawyer.
          Art

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            #6
            Been here and doing this too...I sent you a PM.
            T12-L2; Burst fracture L1: Incomplete walking with AFO's and cane since 1989

            My goal in life is to be as good of a person my dog already thinks I am. ~Author Unknown

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              #7
              Yes I am highly aware of the rules, but not this one. I have been deducting medical expenses to be sure i never went over and most times was way under. I never realized it was by when you got the money, not when you worked. It is not averaged. I will be in big trouble for this year too, for a few months I worked a small side job, took off without pay at my job so the money was even, but didnt get paid until much later.

              I also got dinged bc my company gives us a travel allowance in our check when we go to conferences. It looks like I made 300 extra dollars during those months. I contested that this is unearned income. Who knows what they will say about that.
              Its just ridiculous that by making 300 too much I have to pay back 1400. What logic does that make?
              If you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best.


              Sometimes it is easier to widen doors than it is to open minds.

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                #8
                That 36 month thing doesn't make a lot of sense. Technically I haven't made over sga since I have deducted expenses, but who knows. Very annoying.
                If you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best.


                Sometimes it is easier to widen doors than it is to open minds.

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                  #9
                  Its also ridiculous that with my check I am self sufficient. Without it I go back on foodstamps and the kids are eligible for medicaid again. Does that make any sense to anyone? I didnt think so.
                  If you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best.


                  Sometimes it is easier to widen doors than it is to open minds.

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                    #10
                    For 2012, the monthly earnings amount that we use to determine if a month counts as a TWP month is $720 per month. The 2012 self-employment earnings or activity that we use to determine if a month counts as a TWP month is $720 per month or 80 hours per month.
                    Took this from the site sjean423 has up.
                    Art

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                      #11
                      Art you are correct but that figure is only counted towards the "trial work period".

                      It is so confusing.....


                      Here is a helpful chart:http://www.socialsecurity.gov/pubs/10003.html#a0=1

                      Under federal law, people who are receiving Social Security benefits who have not reached full retirement age are entitled to receive all of their benefits as long as their earnings are under the limits indicated below. For people born in 1943 through 1954, the full retirement age is 66. The full retirement age will increase gradually each year until it reaches age 67 for people born in 1960 or later.
                      2011 2012
                      At full retirement age or older No limit on earnings No limit on earnings
                      Under full retirement age $14,160
                      For every $2 over the limit, $1 is withheld from benefits. $14, 640
                      For every $2 over the limit, $1 is withheld from benefits.
                      In the year you reach full retirement age $37,680
                      For every $3 over the limit, $1 is withheld from benefits until the month you reach full retirement age. $38,880
                      For every $3 over the limit, $1 is withheld from benefits until the month you reach full retirement age.
                      Disability beneficiaries’ earnings limits: If you work while receiving disability benefits, you must tell us about your earnings no matter how little you earn. You may have unlimited earnings during a trial work period of up to nine months (not necessarily in a row) and still receive full benefits. Once you have completed your nine-month trial work period, we will determine if you are still entitled to disability benefits. You also may be eligible for other work incentives to help you make the transition back to work.

                      Substantial Gainful Activity (non-blind) $1,000 per month $1,010 per month
                      Substantial Gainful Activity (blind) $1,640 per month $1,690 per month
                      Trial work period month $720 per month $720 per month
                      T12-L2; Burst fracture L1: Incomplete walking with AFO's and cane since 1989

                      My goal in life is to be as good of a person my dog already thinks I am. ~Author Unknown

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                        #12
                        That's trial work period amount, which is ridiculous.
                        The amount I am under is $1010. Well unless I were suddenly blinded, then I could make $1690. I don't want to be blinded by no means, but I have often wondered why it is different.
                        http://www.socialsecurity.gov/OACT/COLA/sgadet.html

                        2011 it was 1000, etc.
                        If you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best.


                        Sometimes it is easier to widen doors than it is to open minds.

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                          #13
                          Here is a chart
                          http://www.socialsecurity.gov/OACT/COLA/sga.html

                          Interesting how it started out equal and is now such a gap between the two.
                          If you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best.


                          Sometimes it is easier to widen doors than it is to open minds.

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                            #14
                            PS while I am whining, I am not posting this to whine. I want others to be prepared if they decide to work what to watch out for.
                            If you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best.


                            Sometimes it is easier to widen doors than it is to open minds.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by addiesue View Post
                              That's trial work period amount, which is ridiculous.
                              The amount I am under is $1010. Well unless I were suddenly blinded, then I could make $1690. I don't want to be blinded by no means, but I have often wondered why it is different.
                              http://www.socialsecurity.gov/OACT/COLA/sgadet.html

                              2011 it was 1000, etc.
                              ?..how can you work and not be on the TWP?
                              If they go by gross you be way over right?
                              I have seen people lose it only making 200.00 a month.
                              They dangle that carrot in your face then get you down the road.





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