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    Soc Security acting like I'm welfare scammer! RANT

    I've been on ssdi since sci. As a disabled widow 50 or over, I'm entitled to exchange my ssdi for 71% of my husband's social security. I tried to make an appt, as this has to be discussed in person. I have to take in my marriage license, Steve's death certificate, my Soc Security card. No copies allowed, all originals required.

    But wait! You can't really call for an appt-They don't list the SS office's ph no! You have to call the feds and they supposedly make the appt for you. But when I called, their "computer was down." They couldn't even get a number for me. I hung up, called back, got another lady, who gave me the supposed correct ph. number. It was correct-if I was a fax machine. Finally I googled for an hr. and tracked down the right no.

    Anyway, that lady that I reached got it in her head that I'm not 50 and I'm not disabled. She goes "I keep thinking you're in your 40's" I was thinking Ehh? You've put thought into my age, have you? (I also thought to myself "Just a little more thought would help yo to ascertain that my birthdate of April, 1960, does indeed establish an age of 50 years..." I didn't say that part out loud.) Anyway, it's not up for debate, because I turned 50 in April, sheeesh. That's not an opinion, that's a fact.

    And she's oddly determined to evaluate me for ssi. I worked all my life, I'm on ssdi dammit! That was established 10 years ago! Now all you need to know is that I am A. Disabled. Widow. 50. Years. Old.

    She kinda sniffed, said "How long were you married?" REALLY snarky tone of voice. I just growled at her. TWENTY FIVE YEARS. She cautioned me "You WILL have to bring in your marriage license, you know." I'm like Okayyyy. (And thinking WTF, lady, you really think I'm trying to scam you, huh?) Once again, the 25 year thing is not up for debate. That's how many years it is if you got married in May of 1985.

    As far as i know, it wouldn't matter if we'd only been married a month or 2 anyway. I'd still be his widow and entitled to his SS, I assume?

    Gawdamighty. This appointment is not shaping up well at all. She mailed me papers to fill out-for SSI!

    I'm not trying to game the system, at all. I can't do my old job b/c of fingers. Can't work reliably b/c of Graves disease. That's why they call me disabled, dammit...

    I'm just so pissed that she treated me like a faker that wants to go on welfare. She got it in her head that I'm a fake disabled welfare queen that is not really 50 and is trying to get Steve's social security after being married for a year or something.

    I am sooooo not looking forward to this. To tell you the truth, I don't think I should have to put up w/ this kind of bs at this point in my life. Not trying to be a special snowflake here, but damn. My husband just died, I'm 50, I'm disabled. Don't gimme nunya shit!
    Last edited by betheny; 2 Sep 2010, 1:32 PM.
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    Oh, and this isn't really related, just kind of interesting. The SS office in OKC is in an old mall that was going under in the early 90's, displaced by newer better ones. When McVeigh the Lunatic blew up the Murrah fed building, Shepherd Mall got a new lease on life.

    Unusually practical solution for the government, I thought. In fact, it even makes SENSE!
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      #3
      Bethany, You have my sympathy dealing with some of these people.
      Not exactly the same as your situation, but some of them are just plain stupid and nasty.
      I would have been fired if were so rude and incompetent at my job.

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        #4
        Linda, right?? I dealt with all walks of life, as a lab tech. The phlebotomists could never seem to draw blood on the junkies, for instance, due their vein condition. So they'd call me in to get the blood samples. (I started out working in KS. Back in the day, in KS, there was no such thing as phlebotomists. So I became good at it.) My job was to procure the blood, and to test it, and to do these things properly so nobody died due to my incompetence.

        I'd have been soooo fired for passing judgment on a patient. ANY patient.
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          #5
          Social Security SUCKS.
          By the way you have to be married 10 years to get part of your husbands benefits. I was married 9.5 of course... I learned this later when helping a widow at my job.

          SO to join your rant. I got a letter today telling me they will be deducting 3,675.00 from my next check. WHY? Because the woman who entered my medical expenses back in May forgot to put that they were level for the whole year and only entered the one month. So they are taking back June July and August. Yea I don't draw very much..
          Now I have to reprove that I did indeed have medical expenses, etc. Her reply to me - Well you shouldn't depend on a social security check to live. WTF??
          If you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best.


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            #6
            That is so messed up. Both yours and Betheny's experiences just prove how bad the SSA is. I'll call up 4 times in one day and ask the same question, and actually get 4 different answers. So I don't even talk to them anymore.

            I'm sorry they're hitting you for so much money due to their own incompetency addie sue. And Betheny, I'm sorry you're having problems, too. I personally know many people scamming the SSA for SSDI. The fraud is rampant, yet they go after the people who are actually disabled, while AB folks seem to never get investigated for scamming them.
            Originally posted by addiesue View Post
            Social Security SUCKS.
            By the way you have to be married 10 years to get part of your husbands benefits. I was married 9.5 of course... I learned this later when helping a widow at my job.

            SO to join your rant. I got a letter today telling me they will be deducting 3,675.00 from my next check. WHY? Because the woman who entered my medical expenses back in May forgot to put that they were level for the whole year and only entered the one month. So they are taking back June July and August. Yea I don't draw very much..
            Now I have to reprove that I did indeed have medical expenses, etc. Her reply to me - Well you shouldn't depend on a social security check to live. WTF??
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              You shouldn't depend on SS to live? What's it supposed to be, your tip and beer budget for Chippendale's night?? Maybe you're supposed to buy lottery tickets and play slots with it so you don't have to depend on it to live? Maybe you're supposed to use it to buy eyeliner and hotpants, so you can ply your real trade down at Hooker Corner? (Err, that makes it sound like I think you're a hooker. Sarcasm alert!)

              That woman came up with the dumbest thing ever said, I believe!

              If you have $3675 for 3 mo's benefits you're drawing more than me. Hence the desire for Steve's SS. I have assets but I have squat for income, man, Ima po widow fo sho. : Wonder if I should buy some hotpants...Not sure there'd be much of a market for 50 yr old gimps, to tell the truth.

              rdf, I wonder why anyone bothers to scam ssdi, as little as I make, seriously!
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                #8
                That's including 2 kids benefits
                You can have my old hotpants if you want them
                Hope you get it worked out. And on the SS website there should be a place to enter your zip code and find the actual phone number, although that's a little late now.


                RDF how did you get through 4 times? I was on hold once for over an hour.
                If you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best.


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                  #9
                  We found out last month that the financial worker had miscalculated the spend down we pay every month since Medicaid started in January.
                  She was near retiring and seemed like she was just putting in her time.
                  Did not return phone calls. Unpleasant-never a consistent answer. Acted like I was a pregnant with my 6th kid.
                  I felt like screaming "THIS COULD HAPPEN TO ANYONE!!!"

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                    #10
                    Believe it or not, I tried the zip code thing first. You put in your zip code and you think you're getting the correct ph no. But really it gives you the 866 number to the feds. Now THAT is fraudulent, I wonder how they'd like it if I gave them a bogus ph. number?

                    I guess the state offices can't be trusted to answer phones or make their own appointments. They must be too busy guessing at ppl's ages, marital status and disability level. (We know they aren't too busy entering data on ppl's medical expenses!)
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                      #11
                      C, the more I think about it-You need to report both the error and the attitude. I think she made the comment in ref. to ppl that hit retirement age w no 401k, savings etc., planning to live on Soc Sec. As Linda said, this could happen to anyone. Every 1 of these judgmental a-holes is one medical crisis away from disaster, b/c nobody ever saved a couple of mil for retirement while working in a Soc Sec office!

                      And the error should be reported b/c duhhh, hello, laziness.

                      She's trying to make you feel like it's your fault. Nobody has enough retirement saved up if they get sci'd in their early 30's, like you did. It's not like you pissed away your options. You were too young to have accumulated any. SCI is like the Spanish Inquisition...nobody ever expects it.
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                        #12
                        I don't know addie sue, but it seemed for awhile there that they were answering the phone in a timely manner. I think they staffed their call centers with a bunch of new hires who didn't know what they were doing. But they DID answer the phone. What a joke.

                        Betheny, two of my neighbors in California were both scamming SSDI. They were a couple. One was on SSDI because she said she was a drug addict and an alcoholic, the other because he had a bum knee. He was a very active guy, but once every year or two, he'd go report for some kind of physical. I saw him in the hospital once, and he was limping and using a cane. I asked him after what that was all about, and he said he had to see his doctor every year or two to prove he was still disabled.

                        I think once you've scammed your way onto SSDI, it's almost impossible for the SSA to get rid of you. Unless of course you're legitimately receiving benefits, as many here are - then god only knows.
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                          #13
                          What a fucking bitch you talked to! She must work for Sharron Angle.

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                            #14
                            Beth report to who?? LOL You can't even find a number to the local office and you think they'll tell me who is in charge??
                            If you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best.


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                              #15
                              I recently spent some days in a large hospital. The pre-admission process was the first time I had dealt with a bureaucracy in some time. After multiple phone calls and transfers, I was once again talking to the first guy to confirm my admission arrangement. This was the third time Carlos and I spoke that day. Through the mutual politeness, it was obvious that we both felt a little bad about the mental retardation of the other. We finally realized that we each had found the right person.

                              The next day the man at the admissions counter slapped me five when I gave him my ID. Turned out it was Carlos. Pleasant guy. In parting, he mentioned that my drivers license had expired almost two years ago.

                              Turns out that you can't renew a Florida drivers license very easily after one year. You can't do it on-line. You need to visit your local drivers license office. BTW - don't go there to buy your tags - that's a different office. One of the things I needed to get a new drivers license was an original social security card.

                              Did I forget to mention that I never had a social security card? See, when I was born babies didn't automatically get SS cards. Back then, infants and women didn't have too many employment opportunities, so you applied PRN. I was on the road working when one of my employers said I needed to pay taxes. As a minor, Mom's had to apply for my SS card. When it came to her house, she phoned a friend who wrote the number down on the inside cover of a pack of folding matches. God only knows what became of the original card.

                              I was pretty sure that the ladies at the local drivers license office wouldn't accept my match book cover. They seemed pretty strict there. I already knew that I had to pay a fine for my negligence. It was time for me to get my first real SS card.

                              I'm a good finder. Especially on the Internet. I Googled the SS website. Try as I might, I could only find a toll free number for my local office. An automated voice led me through various menu selections until I was placed on hold to wait for the next available representative. Finally, a woman came on the line. She told me that she had been tied up with a woman in OK trying to scam the system by claiming to be a crippled widow. Among other things, I learned the local telephone number of the nearest SS office (50 miles each way). I also learned I would need to have a picture ID. Did you know that an expired drivers license is not acceptable for this purpose?
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