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    how to deal with liberal hindsight?

    If you read the boards you know me. Rarely here, not "technically" a vet. I worked intelligence in Nam, marine trained sniper, spec ops, covert in nam typically attached to Airborn. Specialty LRP, long range termination, documented 973 yards double single taps each. Broke my back in a bad insertion, when redeployed took incoming, broke shoulder, back and neck. Repaired then all went to hell about 15 years ago. Stayed in intel then was retired, no longer fit for primary activity. Enough.

    So i read the boards and read about the vet starving himself and the anger at the government. ???

    I was a grunt, a tool, i terminted 19 targets and unkown combatants in misc encounters and firefights.

    I' m highly functional ambulatory with central pain fused C23, L345, T issues.

    I'm not fucking going to starve mysef, may eat my sidearm someday but wtf? What am i missing. I was a "soldier" conceded no ground to the enemy expected none.

    No guilt, just life. Regrets, some, not,many. Not too pissed over the shit care i get, worse than typical vets but...

    So what am i missing? How does one say so fucking what? I did my job and was good at it, was on both ends of the long gun but srvived. Why do so many look back with "insight" they see as malice, and why does this SO fucking piss me off? All that i am is all gone, Vietnam the cause, but they've also sent mr to Lao, China, East berlin, Russia. It was my fucking job and frankly i loved it?

    It is gettipl
    Kindly,

    The Ketamine Kitty

    All the tears, all the pain, all the rage through the night (apolgies to the rewrite) RR

    Next time I die make sure I'm gone,
    don't leave 'em nothing to work on JT

    And I ain't nothin but a dream JM

    #2
    I don't understand your issue, nobody has a problem with your military accomplishments, sounds like a career to be proud of, are you talking about the Iraq incursion? That's more about going some place where we didn't need to go.
    "Would you rather reduce deficits and interest rates by raising revenue from those who are not now paying their fair share, or would you rather accept larger budget deficits, higher interest rates, and higher unemployment? And I think I know your answer." Ronald Reagan"

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      #3
      As opposed to Vietnam? I think you missed his point.

      Originally posted by trekker6 View Post
      I don't understand your issue, nobody has a problem with your military accomplishments, sounds like a career to be proud of, are you talking about the Iraq incursion? That's more about going some place where we didn't need to go.

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        #4
        Originally posted by t8burst View Post
        As opposed to Vietnam? I think you missed his point.
        I think I did, I haven't heard much discussion of vietnam lately, I know there was a lot of anger towards servicemen back then, but not now, as a marine back then, I never had problems, although I have heard a lot of stories about servicemen that did.
        "Would you rather reduce deficits and interest rates by raising revenue from those who are not now paying their fair share, or would you rather accept larger budget deficits, higher interest rates, and higher unemployment? And I think I know your answer." Ronald Reagan"

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          #5
          I see, he's angry at the soldier who's starving himself to death, I could see that soldiers reason for anger towards cheney though, if you send these young guys to war, make sure it's justified, not just cause you're a paranoid piece of crap, love how cheney hid behind his deferments and is so willing to send young men to war.
          "Would you rather reduce deficits and interest rates by raising revenue from those who are not now paying their fair share, or would you rather accept larger budget deficits, higher interest rates, and higher unemployment? And I think I know your answer." Ronald Reagan"

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            #6
            sorry drugs hit before i finished.

            when I came back from Nam I got spit on, but who cares.

            re don't belong there. where do we belong? who decides? why Nam, why anywhere, major drug bump not as coherent as I mean to be will pick this up in a few days when i catch up to my meds increase.

            but kind of well... need to be more articulate this is coming out wrong.

            the front end was intro is all, this is a vets board and i've never posted here so.

            ket
            Kindly,

            The Ketamine Kitty

            All the tears, all the pain, all the rage through the night (apolgies to the rewrite) RR

            Next time I die make sure I'm gone,
            don't leave 'em nothing to work on JT

            And I ain't nothin but a dream JM

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              #7
              what years were you in?
              "Would you rather reduce deficits and interest rates by raising revenue from those who are not now paying their fair share, or would you rather accept larger budget deficits, higher interest rates, and higher unemployment? And I think I know your answer." Ronald Reagan"

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                #8
                Nam 70-72, 2 extended medical leaves and with temp visits/assignments in eastern europe for special projects, active through most of the 80s, then passed my expiration date for my work, injuries caught up.

                still catching up to my meds but better.

                whne were you in?

                more offline sometime. anyone know if our PMs are secure, postings sure aren't even the members only with a touch of tech savvy.

                ket
                Kindly,

                The Ketamine Kitty

                All the tears, all the pain, all the rage through the night (apolgies to the rewrite) RR

                Next time I die make sure I'm gone,
                don't leave 'em nothing to work on JT

                And I ain't nothin but a dream JM

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                  #9
                  I was in 68-72 avionics tech, worked on a-4 skyhawks, applied for recons, but my mos was critical, so they wouldn't let me go, I guess in the end, I was lucky.
                  "Would you rather reduce deficits and interest rates by raising revenue from those who are not now paying their fair share, or would you rather accept larger budget deficits, higher interest rates, and higher unemployment? And I think I know your answer." Ronald Reagan"

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                    #10
                    I wondered who had access to our PM's.

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                      #11
                      I had a lot of mixed feelings when I read about Thomas Young. At first he had the drive to keep pushing himself to live and enjoy life. Then a series of further dehabilitating setbacks sent him into a downward spiral in his physical and emotional condition and destroyed his quality of life (in his opinion.)

                      I support voluntary euthanasia. I watched someone dear to me die over a long painful year while a brain tumor destroyed her frontal lobes first but didn't kill her until it reached her cerebellum. She felt it was degrading and humiliating, we found it horrifying as her personality disappeared and she finally slipped into a vegetative state for the last months.

                      Thomas has, in my belief, the right to end his life on his own terms. I might not were I in his shoes, but I can't say he is wrong. I respect the discipline and dedication he has shown all his life and the way he is using even his death to make a public statement of his beliefs in the hope that the attention will help others.

                      I've been on the brink a time or too. I know how hard it was to stay when my own condition deteriorated significantly after I thought I had had at least a semi-succesful rehabilitation.

                      But, from what I've read, Thomas came to this decision over time and with the advice of his family. This is not a whim, and he made sure that everyone he loved and cared about understood. His will not be an end that leaves his family bewildered and questioning. This is not a whim in any way.

                      I may not agree with him, but I respect him.
                      Played with bombs- No SCI, Brain Damage enough that I require a chair and a caregiver.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by lonecoaster View Post
                        I wondered who had access to our PM's.
                        No one here has access to PMs, including moderators and administrators. Of course we have had a few members who copied PMs they received and posted them on the regular forums, so you should always use discretion about who you send PMs to, and what you say....

                        (KLD)
                        The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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                          #13
                          I have no problems with self termination and believe it will be my own exit. I am no Cheney fan and coming out of intelligence know things that would make your hair stand up, or you would simply dismiss me as a liar or quite insane.

                          But I guess I can be troubled by retrospective analysis. Who knew what, when, and what do you do, and when? e.g. the capture of the Enigma Machine from the Germans in WWII and Churchill not stopping a dreadful destruction or two "for the greater good"

                          Also, some of my thoughts had to do with how our actions are typically misused to someone else' agenda. And I wonder about the storm may/will cause

                          Almost done, as I come close to my own end game, i have become much more introspective of what I did and what it did to me/others etc ...cause and effect and the ripple or butterflly effect.

                          Lastly the drug/alcohol addled mind is clearing and quite frankly as I read the first post I am not clear on my full intent.

                          But no guilt, few regrets, did the best based on available info to me at the time.

                          Oh and KLD, thanks re the PM clarification.

                          kindly,

                          ket
                          Last edited by bollefen; 27 Mar 2013, 10:38 AM. Reason: type like crap
                          Kindly,

                          The Ketamine Kitty

                          All the tears, all the pain, all the rage through the night (apolgies to the rewrite) RR

                          Next time I die make sure I'm gone,
                          don't leave 'em nothing to work on JT

                          And I ain't nothin but a dream JM

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