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    Due to your physical condition have you been adviced to see a psycoanalyst?

    And who adviced you?
    Thanks.
    17
    No.
    41.18%
    7
    Yes by a medical provider.
    47.06%
    8
    Yes by a friend.
    5.88%
    1
    Yes by an enemy
    0.00%
    0
    Yes by a wino on the street.
    5.88%
    1

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    Life isn't about getting thru the storm but learning to dance in the rain.

    #2
    Does this count? When I first became paralyzed, the ER docs thought I was faking it. Even when they were poking me with sharp instruments and I wasn't flinching, I still got asked a whole barrage of questions like .. does your mom or dad hurt you .. anyone die in your family recently .. etc
    Roses are red. Tacos are enjoyable. Don't blame immigrants, because you're unemployable.

    T-11 Flaccid Paraplegic due to TM July 1985 @ age 12

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      #3
      Originally posted by lynnifer
      Does this count? When I first became paralyzed, the ER docs thought I was faking it. Even when they were poking me with sharp instruments and I wasn't flinching, I still got asked a whole barrage of questions like .. does your mom or dad hurt you .. anyone die in your family recently .. etc
      lynnifer,
      I suppose that would count really.
      It is very surprising to me what medicine has come to.

      My provider since HE thinks I shouldn't use my crutches any more and go into a WC, and I don't think that I should that I am the one that needs to relive my entire life through some shrink..and what bothers me is this I feel is becoming a fad led by doctors like Bruno et. al.

      Our providers are giving up due to them not having anything worth a damn to really deal with the reasons we are declining..well what good will it do for us to PAY a shrink when it is their guilt from not having anything that is running their lives and trying to run ours.

      I am wondering how many people and conditions are getting this lip service.
      And if it's only one condition..well stop the fing drama Bruno you VAMPIRE.
      Life isn't about getting thru the storm but learning to dance in the rain.

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        #4
        Lindox,
        I dont pretend to have the answer for anyone else, but have you thought about how the crutches may affect you in years to come? Not that I am invested one way or the other...but a 60 year old friend of mine who was injured at 17 made life hell for himself by refusing to make use of a powerchair. His arms and shoulders are junk and he has constant pain form it...unable to feed himself currently because of it.

        He now says he wished he had taken advantage of the powerchair for outside the home type stuff and saved his upper body joints a bit.


        As for the shrink thingie...it is a ass covering thing now if anyone seems sad or angry. If anyone freaks out and kills someone or themselves...the care provider can say they suggested counseling.

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          #5
          My doctors when first trying to diagnose me dismissed my "abnormalities" that showed up on my EMGs as non-events. They told me I should go see someone and that they may be able to help me. They also felt that since my roommate/best friend is in a chair I was wanting to be like her. That was 4 years ago....now I have progressed in my disease that everyone can tell there is something wrong with me...I wonder which is better for them...dismissing you or telling you something you already knew once they themselves could not deny it any longer???
          "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot nothing's going to get better. It's not." - Dr. Seuss

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            #6
            Originally posted by thenose
            Lindox,
            I dont pretend to have the answer for anyone else, but have you thought about how the crutches may affect you in years to come? Not that I am invested one way or the other...but a 60 year old friend of mine who was injured at 17 made life hell for himself by refusing to make use of a powerchair. His arms and shoulders are junk and he has constant pain form it...unable to feed himself currently because of it.

            He now says he wished he had taken advantage of the powerchair for outside the home type stuff and saved his upper body joints a bit.


            As for the shrink thingie...it is a ass covering thing now if anyone seems sad or angry. If anyone freaks out and kills someone or themselves...the care provider can say they suggested counseling.

            thenose,
            I love the picture of your puppy.
            And do realize that years of overuse causes joint deterioration..same as it does for anyone that live past 40 I imagine.

            I will realize WHEN it is time to go to wheelchair use. And not be insane about it. Just now isn't the time. And sitting for too long when you have metal in most of your hips and lower body is NOT comfortable either in anyway.

            This comment being made by my supposed used to be medical provider isn't what I expected if he really does know me..which he must not by his comment.

            He has suggested this before..why I don't know except he is reading what the biggies think and beleives every word of it.
            What would be beneficial would be crutch tips that can defy hydroplaning. Of course we don't have that capability.

            I am not depressed, suicidal, manic, or even have a criminal record of any kind. Thus his referral might be better used by someone that does. I have no alcohol or drug addiction..or desire to kill.

            AND think that this shrink being used to treat a physical condition is BS.
            The biggies have done all the papers on people that have had polio..and the ones with the most emotional
            upset are those that recovered the most thus if they have problems loosing NORMAL then let them be analyzed. If they choose to be.

            If that's all they got..well they can keep it.

            Your post kind of shows WHY we don't need this FAD.
            And that is what it is. A melodrama to benefit highly educated people that don't have one iota of common sense.

            I won't though lay down and let these people bring ANOTHER misconception for their profiteering.
            This damn disease isn't going to take my mind ever..it
            can't. So medical experts why not use your writing skills to formulate a descent crutch tip. Because I am going to need many more before this is over.
            Life isn't about getting thru the storm but learning to dance in the rain.

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              #7
              I had some serious left arm and chest pain. Went in to the see the doc right away and got stuck with a dfferent doc than my normal guy. A Russian physician new to the team. She listened to my back and wrote me a script for Prozac.

              I had an appointment the next day at Walter Reed with my physiatrist and told him. He wheeled me directly to the EKG lady. Asked if I punched the nitwit. I was very tempted but left it at informing her this is why more women than men die from heart attacks. My EKG was ok. I had an entrapped nerve but it seems with all the UTIs, etc., we are at higher risk for endocarditis. Man, that bugger hurt and ate a couple asprin.
              Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow."

              Disclaimer: Answers, suggestions, and/or comments do not constitute medical advice expressed or implied and are based solely on my experiences as a SCI patient. Please consult your attending physician for medical advise and treatment. In the event of a medical emergency please call 911.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Sue Pendleton
                I had some serious left arm and chest pain. Went in to the see the doc right away and got stuck with a dfferent doc than my normal guy. A Russian physician new to the team. She listened to my back and wrote me a script for Prozac.

                I had an appointment the next day at Walter Reed with my physiatrist and told him. He wheeled me directly to the EKG lady. Asked if I punched the nitwit. I was very tempted but left it at informing her this is why more women than men die from heart attacks. My EKG was ok. I had an entrapped nerve but it seems with all the UTIs, etc., we are at higher risk for endocarditis. Man, that bugger hurt and ate a couple asprin.
                Glad to hear that it was NOT heart related. Sorry Sue..that you have to be exposed to this type of care.

                Prozac..yep the cure all for all.

                Another reason NOT to go into the chair until and unless it is ABSOLUTELY necessary. And I am so sorry that it is for so many people.

                Especially when we get over 45, 55..yuck etc.
                How many after going into the chair have hypertension..heart attacks..blood clots..insane cholesterol levels? Why not do a study in that area?
                Then maybe more money would be devoted so those that can't afford to go swimming..and get standing frames and those FES bikes and any other way to stay moving could be stayed moving.

                BTW when is your shrink appointment? Hey you got the Prozac already. Not funny really. Who is teaching these newage wonder docs anyway?
                Life isn't about getting thru the storm but learning to dance in the rain.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Lindox
                  Glad to hear that it was NOT heart related. Sorry Sue..that you have to be exposed to this type of care.

                  Prozac..yep the cure all for all.

                  Another reason NOT to go into the chair until and unless it is ABSOLUTELY necessary. And I am so sorry that it is for so many people.

                  Especially when we get over 45, 55..yuck etc.
                  How many after going into the chair have hypertension..heart attacks..blood clots..insane cholesterol levels? Why not do a study in that area?
                  Then maybe more money would be devoted so those that can't afford to go swimming..and get standing frames and those FES bikes and any other way to stay moving could be stayed moving.

                  BTW when is your shrink appointment? Hey you got the Prozac already. Not funny really. Who is teaching these newage wonder docs anyway?
                  I tore the script up in the car. But I will be posting a paper I asked a bone specialist about at a recent symposium hosted by Johns Hopkins for the non-trauma community. When I did need tested for blood flow to my lower legs the normal test comes back false negative (I hope anyway) because excess tone shoves blood through the arteries. Many of us who are incomplete often feel a lot more tone or spacticity than a doctor sees. So they go by the cuff readings on the ankles. In my case the doc was young and confused. He took the stehoscope off and turned on the speaker. I could identify for him the tone signal change from a test for a DVT I once had.

                  There are some tests I've seen done about the effect arm bikes have on cholesterol but I've never checked the results. Once I scan the other paper in I'll add how to help keep bones healthy and then look up what the tests showed, if anything.

                  Many European docs tend to think Americans are wimps or hypochondriacs. Considering the number of kids with sore ears in ERs maybe they are right. But Prozac for chest pain with my history in front of her? Glad they didn't keep her when they moved.
                  Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow."

                  Disclaimer: Answers, suggestions, and/or comments do not constitute medical advice expressed or implied and are based solely on my experiences as a SCI patient. Please consult your attending physician for medical advise and treatment. In the event of a medical emergency please call 911.

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                    #10
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                    Originally posted by lynnifer
                    Does this count? When I first became paralyzed, the ER docs thought I was faking it. Even when they were poking me with sharp instruments and I wasn't flinching, I still got asked a whole barrage of questions like .. does your mom or dad hurt you .. anyone die in your family recently .. etc
                    They thought you were faking? How insanely rude! I doubt they'd do that to a man. How did you react?

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                      #11
                      Religious Freaks

                      A few times I've been told that if I accept Jesus into my heart I would be instantly healed. So that makes me mad.

                      Then once when I asked for more physical therapy my case worker at PMG told me,
                      "If I was you, I would need more mental therapy than physical therapy."

                      Great attempt at trying to deny benefits. The famous "If I was you" bothers me sooooooooooooooooo much.
                      Last edited by sachad; 17 Aug 2006, 5:43 PM.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by sachad
                        A few times I've been told that if I accept Jesus into my heart I would be instantly healed. So that makes me mad.

                        Then once when I asked for more physical therapy my case worker at PMG told me,
                        "If I was you, I would need more mental therapy than physical therapy."

                        Great attempt at trying to deny benefits. The famous "If I was you" bothers me sooooooooooooooooo much.
                        Welcome to the forum sasha.
                        Sorry about the religious people. I think they mean well.

                        I have never met a tranverse myelitis victim in person. And do doubt if too many in the general public even know what the word means. Much less what the symptoms are..or what the prognosis can entail.

                        Good thing for people like Sue getting some knowledge out to the public. Your condition seems to know NO boundaries in race, age, or geographic location.

                        And the symptoms are so incredibly diverse in presentation. A real medical doozy is what it looks like to me.

                        Thanks ALL for voting in the poll. Even with the small participation I think I see this a bit more clearly.
                        Life isn't about getting thru the storm but learning to dance in the rain.

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                          #13
                          I answered yes for my wife, but it was a psychologist to whom she was referred, not a psychoanalyst; she was referred by her pain specialist - not as an alternative to meds or a way to decrease their usage, but as an adjunct to them. The experience has been helpful for her.

                          These suggestions of faking it that some tell about are beyond my compehension. I can't imagine anyone faking it when it comes to the bowel program & catheter!
                          Yeah, she's had people who want to lay hands on her & heal her. If only that worked!
                          - Richard

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by rfbdorf
                            I answered yes for my wife, but it was a psychologist to whom she was referred, not a psychoanalyst; she was referred by her pain specialist - not as an alternative to meds or a way to decrease their usage, but as an adjunct to them. The experience has been helpful for her.

                            These suggestions of faking it that some tell about are beyond my compehension. I can't imagine anyone faking it when it comes to the bowel program & catheter!
                            Yeah, she's had people who want to lay hands on her & heal her. If only that worked!
                            - Richard
                            Richard,
                            I am not saying that psychological or psychoanalytical help isn't valuable to people.

                            Just in my individual case..in 55 years of being disabled..no other professional has ever said that this type of care was needed. And I didn't just become stubborn yesterday.

                            I am seeing this doctor Monday and have a list of questions for HIM. An analysis so to say of his ability to be MY doctor.
                            We really haven't had a heart to heart since I started seeing him last year. And I have an HMO that has limited providers attached.

                            If he and I don't come to an understanding..and he insists upon his opinions..I will have to change providers even if that means paying for it completely out of pocket. If he insists on his analysis recommendation then I will not be seeing a mental provider..but will definately be seeing my attorney.
                            Life isn't about getting thru the storm but learning to dance in the rain.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Lindox
                              Richard,
                              I am not saying that psychological or psychoanalytical help isn't valuable to people.

                              Just in my individual case..in 55 years of being disabled..no other professional has ever said that this type of care was needed. And I didn't just become stubborn yesterday.

                              I am seeing this doctor Monday and have a list of questions for HIM. An analysis so to say of his ability to be MY doctor.
                              We really haven't had a heart to heart since I started seeing him last year. And I have an HMO that has limited providers attached.

                              If he and I don't come to an understanding..and he insists upon his opinions..I will have to change providers even if that means paying for it completely out of pocket. If he insists on his analysis recommendation then I will not be seeing a mental provider..but will definately be seeing my attorney.
                              Now this sounds like me! I always ask a new doc a few questions. Like why this field of medicine? Why medicine at all? Schools they attended? For those that it applies to ask if they know what AD is or post-polio syndrome. No, I'm not trying to check for the worst grad in his/her med school. Just I have found that doctors AND nurses that willingly answer these kind of questions without getting defensive are more likely to listen to my ideas and research alternatives if I am not into the "normal" way of dealing with a problem.

                              I take in a printed sheet with a short medical history back to grandparents because of specific over lapping medical problems. Make sure you include all medical problems unrelated to your disability on this sheet. The normal list of current meds, supplements and why you take them and current living arrangements-home with husband/wife/kids, single with help coming in daily or live in, assisted living, service animal, independent, etc. I also tend to discuss my not so great reactions to most drugs and why I'd prefer other modalities to meds when possible.

                              Oh, and any specialist should have a list of your other doctors or at the very least your primary care doc and phone numbers to the doc/docs and your pharmacy.

                              Let us know how it goes Lin. Good luck!
                              Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow."

                              Disclaimer: Answers, suggestions, and/or comments do not constitute medical advice expressed or implied and are based solely on my experiences as a SCI patient. Please consult your attending physician for medical advise and treatment. In the event of a medical emergency please call 911.

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