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    #16
    Paris was dirty, the people are rude, my car was broke into and the police did not give two cents. When I called the rent-a-car company, they laughed and said "you must be american, they hate americans" and that was ten years ago!

    Marth my dear, of course I love Texas and Lousy-anna. But, I love Colorado, New Mexico, Wyoming, Montana, some parts of Florida, and parts of a few other states. As for countries, been to many, like few. Germany, the homeland is great, Yucatan region of Mexico (as long as it's not Cancun), Hungry, Netherlands, the Eastern countryside of France, some parts of England, and a few others.

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      #17
      Originally posted by lel42:

      I was born and raised in Europe, and been all over it. Paris was my best experience. Andrea, I envy you... [img]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/img]

      "What are the things to do in Paris?" A lot - you name it... Lots of seightseeing: Arc de Triomphe, Eiffel Tower, Les Champs-Elysées Boulevard and the beautiful restaurants on the side, the Church/Museum of Notre Dame - the Cathedrale of Paris (have you seen the movie ? - that's where it takes place. A very old movie, Brigid Bordo plays in that movie) don't forget to visit its georgeus garden outside, Louvre (it's huge, it took me at least one week to visit the whole thing) & Orsay Museums, Seine Bridges, Disneyland, Chatelet with lots of fashion butiques etc, etc...

      Shanon, are you talking about the cemetary of Montparnasse?

      Paris is huge and expensive...subways are a litle bit comlicated, not sure how wc accessible they are.

      Anyways, I'm sure you guys are going to have an unforgetable experience. Make sure you take some pictures, and when you come back post some of them here.. [img]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/img]

      Good luck,
      Lel
      You also could go to the Opera, to the cinema museum, enjoy the odeurs and the savoir vivre on Rue Mouffetard. Dine in a Maroccean Restaurant on Place St. Michel...do you like Couscous? You could visit von Gogh, Toulouse Lautrec and all the others in Quai d'Orsay.... have a drink in a bistro where a chanconniers are playing accordeon and singing Plaisir d'amour - talking about Baudelaire, Rimbaud and Henry de Nerval...he wrote Aurelia...you could spend a mild evening on the hill of Sacre Coeur, overlooking all and everything...

      Bon Voyage,
      OneBlueNatalie

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        #18
        [QUOTE]Originally posted by Liz321:

        Originally posted by booster: (edited)
        She's gone so I can say it: I HATE PARIS!!!

        QUOTE]

        LOL!
        I've never been, although some family has. They did not care for the city either.
        Kids complained about dog poop everywhere!
        My brother-in-law and sister do love the place though.......
        Wee-Wee In Pari! [img]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/img] Its ok, she hates Americans attitudes, so its all good.
        http://newmobility.com/ubbcgi/ultima...1;t=013714;p=7

        "I guess pain is a great motivator."- Yanni
        Eine Welf, Ein Volk

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          #19
          Originally posted by booster:

          Paris was dirty, the people are rude, my car was broke into and the police did not give two cents. When I called the rent-a-car company, they laughed and said "you must be american, they hate americans" and that was ten years ago!
          .
          Its perfect for her.

          "I guess pain is a great motivator."- Yanni
          Eine Welf, Ein Volk

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            #20
            Wow ... perfect holiday. I had no bad experiences whatsoever! I was nervous about "bad attitude" towards Americans, but nothing. Everything was beautiful; accessibility, well, I say a C+; an A if I could count all the times the people offered to help.
            Lizbv, they're playing your movie - Supersize Me :-)

            Don't want for this to turn into another NM fiasco with people who have far too much time on their hands critiquing my life. I had a fantastic time and will be going to Mont de Marson (South of France; the Countryside) and Spain in September then hopefully Greece next Summer.
            I'd definately recommend everyone to go :-) What's a life with no risk? Now back to real life and job interviews. But, first... bed!


            (Moderators: If the people who seem very intersted in assessing my life, please feel free to lock the thread. I'll also be more than happy to share what was accessible and what was not!)

            Greetings, Andrea

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              #21
              I'm glad you had a good time, and I'd love to hear more about it and see some pictures!

              Alive for 34 years
              T4/5 complete for 25 years
              Mom for 7 years

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                #22
                Ok, a little freetime. The Hotel, Cercle National des Armées was a 5-Star brillant place. Our room faced the Eiffel Tower and had a huge bathtub and candlelabra chandelier. It was situated near everything, most importantly the métro we took most often.
                Since my boyfriend is French, I never experienced difficulties with language or pronunciation. The attendants were arranged to come daily at 9am and were extremely friendly and prompt.
                The cafés along Champs Élysée is great. Lido ("Moulin Rouge") was a very cool show. The weather was very cool and sometimes rainy but I bought sweaters and pashminas.
                Notre Dame, Eiffel Tower and the Lourve were spectacular. But, mostly, I loved walking around the city and taking drinks at Brasseries and then eating fresh breads and having him treat me like a total princess each day and every night :-)
                As far as cleanliness, well, it IS a major world capital with a lot of people and of course, their dogs. No major city in the US I've been to has been perfect, so I don't care much about that. It was also quite loud when the portuguese beat the czechs in a football match one night.
                There were difficulties in the sidewalks at times with the leveling, but nothing generally that couldn't be remedied with a good push (we were laughing loudly one evening while walking and a homeless man woke up and told us to be quiet, then apologised after seeing that we were laughing at him having to give a shove up the curb). The métro line 14 was all brand new and very modern and accessible.
                I have become accustomed to BAir and Lufthansa so, was a bit disappointed with Air France. I flew economy and it was cramped with no individual TVs. The flight seemed very long but I sat next to my friend on the way back and the people next to me were very cool so it was ok.
                Shopping was excellent, there is the Summer Sale right now & Duty Free is always good.
                Oh, and the Lourve was very accessible, even the toilettes and we both got in free. I was surprised at the size of the Mona Lisa!
                Ok, there's my trip summary. It was a terrific experience :-) But, I love travel.

                Thanks again for all the terrific suggestions & for those of you who have nothing nice to say, well, my condolences :-) See the world for yourself and never rely purely on anyone's opinions entirely. Travel and books are never a waste of money (a tip of wisdom I learned from my grandfather)

                Best, Andrea

                [This message was edited by -Andrea- on 07-05-04 at 09:56 PM.]

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                  #23
                  [img]/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

                  "I guess pain is a great motivator."- Yanni
                  Eine Welf, Ein Volk


                  [This message was edited by Lizbv on 07-06-04 at 02:35 PM.]

                  [This message was edited by Lizbv on 07-06-04 at 02:36 PM.]

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                    #24
                    Lizbv, Andrea - please, no personal attacks. [img]/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

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                      #25
                      What? You didn't go to the cemetary? What is wrong with you?

                      Seriously though, it sounds like you had a wonderful time. One of the things I remembered after reading your post was that a lot of the Brasseries had a step up from the sidewalk. This wasn't a big problem though as there were always people going out of their way to help.

                      I loved to travel when I was in my 20s. Now I just want to stay in the comforts of my own home. I get the traveling bug once in a while, but it usually doesn't last long. I think when my daughter is a teenager, I'll take her to Australia to visit a friend. And as long as we're in the area, we'll have to check out New Zealand too.

                      If I live to be in my 50s and 60s, that's when I want to start traveling again. By then, my daughter will be grown and on her own, plus I will hopefully have an iBOT by then which will really make things easier.

                      Alive for 34 years
                      T4/5 complete for 25 years
                      Mom for 7 years

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                        #26
                        Wow, sounds like a great trip.

                        As a fellow quad I am interested in travel also. How did you set aides up? Did they do your bp program? Get you dressed etc.? How much does care cost over in Europe?

                        and how did you get into and out of a huge bathtub or did you use a bench?
                        I'd need to bring 2 suitcases just for supplies!

                        Thanks for the info.
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Liz321:

                          Wow, sounds like a great trip.

                          As a fellow quad I am interested in travel also. How did you set aides up? Did they do your bp program? Get you dressed etc.? How much does care cost over in Europe?

                          and how did you get into and out of a huge bathtub or did you use a bench?
                          I'd need to bring 2 suitcases just for supplies!

                          Thanks for the info.
                          My boyfriend set up the the attendant care thru the French Paraplegic Association (I think, I'll double check). I packed 1 suitcase with my clothes and I brought a showerbench and chair that goes over the toilet. I had it packed in a box that weighed 22kg. The attendant care was 11,-Euro weekdays and 15,- weekends. It varies country to country and may be cheaper to hire privately if you plan on Germany/Austria or Denmark (where it was ~21,-Euro/hour).
                          Since the jets are 747s, they allow 2-pieces of luggage and they are obligated to carry the wheelchair at no extra fee.

                          Lizbv - if you have personal problems with me, take it up with me directly. I sent you an e-mail. Jealousy reeks from you so just chill. Or, if you don't like my posts, don't read 'em. Simple.


                          Shannon - we simply had no time to visit the cemetary. My BF had everything scheduled out. Notre Dame was incredible. I was so stunned.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by -Andrea-:

                            Lizbv - if you have personal problems with me, take it up with me directly. I sent you an e-mail. Jealousy reeks from you so just chill. Or, if you don't like my posts, don't read 'em. Simple.
                            There is no issue. I sent a reply. Jealousy? [img]/forum/images/smilies/confused.gif[/img] Chris Chappell requested no attacks. Now who's the responsible adult?

                            "I guess pain is a great motivator."- Yanni
                            Eine Welf, Ein Volk

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                              #29
                              Ooooh... I'm jealous (but in a good way [img]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]). Once my boyfriend and I buy or build a house next summer we want to start traveling. France is on my list! I'm glad you had a positive experience. I'm convinced a lot of what you get out of an experience is your attitude and perception. If you go into something new with courage and a positive attitude most times you'll have a positive experience (self-fulfilling prophecy theory). You obviously have both courage and a positive attitude. Glad you had a great time!

                              Kimmy

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