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    Hi all, long time no post but I'm in need of some advice yet again.
    I've finally got my Twion wheels sorted out, special camber tube on, app downloaded with an access code I definitely don't have
    We're flying to Louisville for a conference in a few weeks. These conferences are a big reason why I got the wheels due to the never-ending carpet and pushing myself from one end of the conference center to another, countless times a day. We've got a layover in Detroit as there are no non-stop flights from LA. I'm very nervous about flying with the wheels. Our current plan is to pack them in the box they came in with the sheet from Alber and the print out of the IATA chapter it meets both in the box and taped to the side. It will then be checked as according to the IATA regulations since the batteries aren't removable they can't be in the cabin (https://www.iata.org/whatwedo/cargo/...59-EN-2.3a.pdf). I'll then use my manual wheels to get to the gate. We're bringing extra packing supplies (tape and scissors) in case they want the Twions to go in the cabin. Then we'll just put the Twions on and pack the spinergys.

    For those of you who have flown with Twion wheels, how do you normally do it?

    #2
    Originally posted by rockbybay View Post
    Hi all, long time no post but I'm in need of some advice yet again.
    I've finally got my Twion wheels sorted out, special camber tube on, app downloaded with an access code I definitely don't have
    We're flying to Louisville for a conference in a few weeks. These conferences are a big reason why I got the wheels due to the never-ending carpet and pushing myself from one end of the conference center to another, countless times a day. We've got a layover in Detroit as there are no non-stop flights from LA. I'm very nervous about flying with the wheels. Our current plan is to pack them in the box they came in with the sheet from Alber and the print out of the IATA chapter it meets both in the box and taped to the side. It will then be checked as according to the IATA regulations since the batteries aren't removable they can't be in the cabin (https://www.iata.org/whatwedo/cargo/...59-EN-2.3a.pdf). I'll then use my manual wheels to get to the gate. We're bringing extra packing supplies (tape and scissors) in case they want the Twions to go in the cabin. Then we'll just put the Twions on and pack the spinergys.

    For those of you who have flown with Twion wheels, how do you normally do it?

    I dont have those wheels but we fly all the time and dont have issues with damage. I fly with power chairs and have at time flown with a street chair and an off road power chair on the same flight and no issues!

    Is there a reason you dont want to leave the wheels on and have them just transport normally which would have you transfer in the plane then they take your chair and load it and bring to you when you land for your layover?

    It concerns me when I see people talking about taking chairs and scooters apart which requires time and effort and then to do it again after landing.

    What if bolts, nuts, screws get lost, one then needs tools etc?

    The biggest suggestion is to work with the ground crew loading you chair and how it and the wheels work.

    Most just leave there chairs and or scooters and never talk to the ground crew on whats needed and how things work.

    Worse yet come up with a page and 1/2 of written laminated instructions??? Like the ground crews have the time to read a novel when the end user could have just taken the time and shown them!!

    Do remember things and issues can happen but everything is fixable and at the airlines expense but for the most part give yourself an extra hour ask for the ramp supervisors and have him or her radio or email the same information you giving to both arriving airports.

    If you need more help message me!

    Last dont over think it and dont pay attention to those who dont fly circulating horror stories about flying with mobility!

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      #3
      I'm not liking the idea of taking the wheels off. What are they going to do with the rest of your chair? Stow it with luggage? Pass. Now, if you get them to stow your wheels and the frame on the plane, then that's what I would do. BUT, by no means would I want them carrying my chair like a piece of luggage.
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        #4
        Thank you both. I don't think I was clear in my original post. I'm taking two separate pairs of wheels with me, one power assist pair and one regular pair.
        This is for a few reasons, rain and battery life being the two biggest ones.
        My chair will not be taken apart at all, I plan on leaving the (nonpowered) wheels on the chair when I transfer to the plane. The power assist wheels will be checked like luggage (in a box) as the push-rims are stupidly fragile. Since I'm taking two pairs of wheels, I thought it made the most sense to pack the fragile wheels where they're less likely to get broken and roll with my manual wheels for the day, which are pretty indestructible.
        I hope that makes more sense.

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          #5
          I did not know that you could talk with the ground crew. How do you start that process?

          Thanks

          Originally posted by RollPositive View Post

          The biggest suggestion is to work with the ground crew loading you chair and how it and the wheels work.
          Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.

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            #6
            I have flown with my twions left on my chair and gate checked without issue so far. The box is is a good one as you're right about the handrims. A good hard knock will dork the torque sensors. The problem is how much luggage it makes for!
            T3 complete since Sept 2015.

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              #7
              how did you get the app? i have a brand new set in the box
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                #8
                Originally posted by rockbybay View Post
                Thank you both. I don't think I was clear in my original post. I'm taking two separate pairs of wheels with me, one power assist pair and one regular pair.
                This is for a few reasons, rain and battery life being the two biggest ones.
                My chair will not be taken apart at all, I plan on leaving the (nonpowered) wheels on the chair when I transfer to the plane. The power assist wheels will be checked like luggage (in a box) as the push-rims are stupidly fragile. Since I'm taking two pairs of wheels, I thought it made the most sense to pack the fragile wheels where they're less likely to get broken and roll with my manual wheels for the day, which are pretty indestructible.
                I hope that makes more sense.
                Why don't you ship the power assist wheels to the hotel you will be staying at? Then you don't have to worry about them on the plane.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by HACKNSACK44 View Post
                  Why don't you ship the power assist wheels to the hotel you will be staying at? Then you don't have to worry about them on the plane.
                  great idea. i do this with my zx1
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by rockbybay View Post
                    Thank you both. I don't think I was clear in my original post. I'm taking two separate pairs of wheels with me, one power assist pair and one regular pair.
                    This is for a few reasons, rain and battery life being the two biggest ones.
                    My chair will not be taken apart at all, I plan on leaving the (nonpowered) wheels on the chair when I transfer to the plane. The power assist wheels will be checked like luggage (in a box) as the push-rims are stupidly fragile. Since I'm taking two pairs of wheels, I thought it made the most sense to pack the fragile wheels where they're less likely to get broken and roll with my manual wheels for the day, which are pretty indestructible.
                    I hope that makes more sense.
                    Makes more sense but I think you might be thinking by having it pack separate its going to be more safe and less likely to get damage?

                    Same ground crew so the risk is the same...I would keep the powered wheels on it I am not 100% sure but I have seen people roll in rain, snow etc so not sure how that impacts the usage?

                    I think your end result would be better if you rolled up to check in gate and ask for the ramp supervisor and explain how your chair has the battery tires and how they work and can be subject to sensitivity so you needed it loaded with care.

                    Most airlines now have lifts that will lift a chair to the conveyor belt to be loaded so doping is much less.

                    If you boxed them up and even put on the box fragile you can still get some knucklehead that didn't see the label and toss!

                    I am real specific when I am showing him or her what to do and how it works.

                    Over the weekend I had s flight from LAX back to Phx and the supervisor wasn't really paying attention so I just stop talking and rolled back to the gate agent and asked for his manager.

                    When he came up to ask why I left I told him I need someone that is going to pay attention because I cant have this chair damaged when I get home.

                    Be assertive and speak up remember they are working for you and the more you explain and show the less your going to have damage or issues.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Joe-MN View Post
                      I did not know that you could talk with the ground crew. How do you start that process?

                      Thanks
                      When you check in at the gate when they tag your chair to bring it to the gate you can have the agent call for a ramp supervisor.

                      Its important that you talk to the right person because the person taking tickets before you board is a opps agent they try and step in but this person is not the person in charge of getting your chair loaded!!

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by HACKNSACK44 View Post
                        Why don't you ship the power assist wheels to the hotel you will be staying at? Then you don't have to worry about them on the plane.

                        The problem with that is Fedex and UPS both deliver items and they can get damaged and the repair process is a lot longer.

                        If he uses the airlines and they get damaged he could have them repaired possibly then.

                        We have had DMEs come to our hotel or in one case we took a shuttle from the airport to the DME in Las Vegas.

                        But haven't had any real issues in years!

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                          #13
                          We just got back from a vacation where by husband's E-fix wheels were damaged after we loaded the plane from our layover on the way to Honolulu. The axle pin broke/sheared off. Not sure what happened. The ground crew gal said it just fell off when she picked it up and the steward watching said same. We assume during first flight the chair may have shifted around hard! How the axle didn't brake when my husband was in it for the layover is beyond me. However, after getting to Honolulu and using a rental large power chair for a day and a half, we were lucky enough knowing someone coming to Honolulu the next day that brought our spare wheel from home. Anyways, on the way home the airline treated us like gold. We took the wheels off and stored in the cabinet on board and just sent the chair to the ground crew to be put in luggage. This was with delta. We are again flying end of the month with Southwest and would like to look into doing the same thing (taking wheels on board and chair to luggage). I wonder if they make a padded bag for wheelchair wheels. I'm thinking even taking them off and sending down if have to that way may be safer than having the chair rolling around down there. Anyone else ever take power assist wheels off before sending down. From now on I may request to talk to ground crew before they take it down.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by NebrFarmer View Post
                            We just got back from a vacation where by husband's E-fix wheels were damaged after we loaded the plane from our layover on the way to Honolulu. The axle pin broke/sheared off. Not sure what happened. The ground crew gal said it just fell off when she picked it up and the steward watching said same. We assume during first flight the chair may have shifted around hard! How the axle didn't brake when my husband was in it for the layover is beyond me. However, after getting to Honolulu and using a rental large power chair for a day and a half, we were lucky enough knowing someone coming to Honolulu the next day that brought our spare wheel from home. Anyways, on the way home the airline treated us like gold. We took the wheels off and stored in the cabinet on board and just sent the chair to the ground crew to be put in luggage. This was with delta. We are again flying end of the month with Southwest and would like to look into doing the same thing (taking wheels on board and chair to luggage). I wonder if they make a padded bag for wheelchair wheels. I'm thinking even taking them off and sending down if have to that way may be safer than having the chair rolling around down there. Anyone else ever take power assist wheels off before sending down. From now on I may request to talk to ground crew before they take it down.
                            Just out of curiosity when you took off for your 1st leg of your trip did you talk to the ground crew about his chair and how the tires are special and play in to how his chair works?

                            If you have never seen the cargo hold of a plane it has open bins where his chair should have been placed and a cargo net over the front to keep it from falling out and tires should have been locked to keep it from rolling to shearing off doesnt make sense.

                            We fly Southwest and they fly smaller planes then what you might have flown to Hawaii so I would call the airline and see if they can a accommodate the wheels as carry on.

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                              #15
                              Sorry it's taken me forever to respond, busy week.
                              @Mize happy to know you had no issues gate checking, that lessens my worry a little.
                              @fuentejps I'll message you about the app, I'm not sure if I'm truly supposed to have it.
                              @HACKNSACK44 I can't afford to ship the wheels, this trip is already more expensive than I was planning. I'd also be without the weels longer than ideal. Plus as RollPositive said, it'd likely be harder to get the wheels fixed with UPS/FedEx than with an airline.
                              @NebrFarmer are you referring to the bracket on the camber tube? If so, what happened to you is a big worry of mine as while I'll have a backup pair of manual wheels, I won't be able to get around the conference center without some sort of assist. I was thinking of maybe bubble wrapping the bracket or something but I don't know how much good that would do.

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