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  • #16
    Originally posted by SCI-Nurse View Post
    Not in the USA. You should tell them you will require at least two "lifters".


    We have had good experiences with Alaska, Southwest, and Delta. Not so good on United and American.


    Depends on the city. Where are you thinking about going? Supershuttle has lift equipped vans in most of the airports they service, and are cheaper than a cab.

    (KLD)
    I recently joined Alaska Airlines Miles Club, and signed up for their credit card. They have a diverse number of airline partners one can use miles with. However, I just recently attempted to book a flight from PHL to SEA with Alaska, and when doing so, the website stated chairs cannot exceed height of 33". My armrests on my F3 alone sit at that height. While I can recline my chair to get close to that height, it would still require I adjust the armrests. I'd rather not deal with the hassle when other options exist, so I ended up cancelling within the 24 hr period. Unfortunately I had to revoke my companion pass when doing so, which doesn't make much sense.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Rrrrronnn View Post
      Glad I came across this as I am considering traveling by myself from NY to meet some friends in Vegas. The last time I flew was in 2001, but was with family.

      I am hoping to piggyback a few questions on this thread:

      1. If in need of a lift from airport personnel, is there a stated weight limit? Unfortunately I have put on a few pounds over the years and am weighing in at 240.
      2. Are there airlines that are more reputable in handling SCI travelers, and ones to stay away from?
      3. What has been people's experience getting accessible cab rides in major cities in the US these day? Is this likely a possibility to get from the airport to the hotel without having to transfer?

      Thanks!

      We fly only Southwest and out of LGA they have great service to Las Vegas.

      Give yourself some extra time and when you check in at the gate you would tell the gate agent and ramp supervisor your needs.

      Also let them know you will need help transferring and let them know your weight. Sometimes we forget in our community that with the airlines they are still delivering customer service and are there to help.

      I would look at a flight with a hour 1/2 lay over so you can get off get in your chair and stretch and use the restroom and eat or get something to eat on the 2nd half of the flight.

      In Las Vegas you dont call cabs when you land and get your bags go to the side that shows cabs signs are above you the other side will say shuttle buses.

      when you get outside you see the Meto police directing traffic and the cab line. Just tell the officer you need a WC cab and they will get you one its about a 5 to 10 min wait.

      To strip hotels its about a $20 ride make sure they take you direct vs freeway adding $10+ more to the ride.

      At each hotel you can have bell man or valets call you a cab, Vegas also has the RTC Deuce city bus that runs 24 hours a day and the monorail but it leaves you in the back of the hotels vs the fronts.

      Vegas is one of the best cities for wc fun!
      Last edited by RollinPositive; 04-25-2018, 03:12 PM.

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            • #21
              This is just a good generic video of what to expect.

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              • #22
                Thanks for the additional details everyone!

                I do remember having some positive helpful experience from 98-2001. I also remember at LGA them sending a pretty strong woman and an older gentleman that was barely 140 lbs. I wasn't feeling 100% about him being able to do it, but time was feeling a bit tight so we proceeded forward.

                He took my legs like in the above video, and I instructed to lift under the knees so my legs would stay bent and less likely to spaz out. Well, the lift on his end was challenging and once I was in the aisle chair, my legs started shaking. I couldn't lean forward to break the spasm because they had a chest belt on me, so I explained to him that if he lifts under my legs like he had before, it would stop. I might as well have been talking to a tree. It was like the guy couldn't even hear me, as he just stared at my legs shaking and doing nothing. Guy probably thought he hurt me or I was having a seizure, even though before the lift I explained it happens sometimes. Lesson learned on this one was if you have doubts about the capability of who they sent due to strength or a language barrier, request someone else!

                @wheeler I hope you have a great time in Hawaii.
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                "If ya don't have it in the hips, ya better have it in the lips..." ~ Charlie - Villa Dulce

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Rrrrronnn View Post
                  Thanks for the additional details everyone!

                  I do remember having some positive helpful experience from 98-2001. I also remember at LGA them sending a pretty strong woman and an older gentleman that was barely 140 lbs. I wasn't feeling 100% about him being able to do it, but time was feeling a bit tight so we proceeded forward.

                  He took my legs like in the above video, and I instructed to lift under the knees so my legs would stay bent and less likely to spaz out. Well, the lift on his end was challenging and once I was in the aisle chair, my legs started shaking. I couldn't lean forward to break the spasm because they had a chest belt on me, so I explained to him that if he lifts under my legs like he had before, it would stop. I might as well have been talking to a tree. It was like the guy couldn't even hear me, as he just stared at my legs shaking and doing nothing. Guy probably thought he hurt me or I was having a seizure, even though before the lift I explained it happens sometimes. Lesson learned on this one was if you have doubts about the capability of who they sent due to strength or a language barrier, request someone else!

                  @wheeler I hope you have a great time in Hawaii.

                  Best advice is speak up before people lift you and the airlines are pretty good. Tell them your weight so let them figure if they can lift you or need someone else to help.

                  I have even had the ground crew left at times and I am only 130lb.

                  They usually do a dry run on how they are going to lift and strap you in and this is the time to let them know user specifics like for me I have minimal neck strength so I tell them if they lean me to far back I cant recover so someone will hold there hands behind my neck.

                  Once I am lifted I tell them I cant move so they will position my hands and legs and feet etc.

                  Just be honest and open and not afraid to speak up...

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                  • #24
                    I failed to mention that my trip is scheduled from the May 7th to 12th, this is my first flight ever for me, and I’ve become confused about the deatils regarding my check in at the airport. I have questions:
                    -Will I be able to go to into the airplanes bathroom, if not I am not going to try cath in the passengers field of vision, so would it bad if I’d use a foley for the flight?
                    -since this is my first flight ever, I don’t know the check-in process, how many bags I can take, and does anyone have recommendations for the type of wheels/tires I should use when I’m on the beach.
                    Thanks

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                    • #25
                      No, you won't be able to get into the plane's bathrooms. You can cath under a blanket, or use an indwelling catheter which you insert prior to going to the airport. Talk to your urologist. We used to do the latter for my mother (no way to cath a women in their seat) and he wanted her to take a dose of antibiotic prior to inserting the catheter and another when removing it at our destination. Be sure to also purchase 2 leg bags with extension tubing. Don't forget to take the balloon inflation syringe with you to deflate it for removal, and take an additional indwelling catheter & insertion kit for your return flight. Ask your companions to check for bag fullness when in-flight, and if necessary, you can drain the leg bag into an empty water bottle (or the vomit bag) and then can empty that in the plane's toilet.

                      Check in on-line just as you would if AB (24 hours before your flight), & print out your boarding passes. When you arrive at the airport, check in at the curb if possible, and request an escort to your gate. You can check your luggage at the curb if you get free checking or pay if your ticket does not include free checking of luggage. This depends upon the airline and the ticket you bought. Don't recommend checking the bag that you have for medical supplies, which should be taken as your carry-on (no charge) but should include only medications, catheters, Chux, gloves, lubricant, etc. etc. Not counted as carry-on as long as only contains medical supplies: label this bag as such.

                      There are some locations in Hawaii where they have beach wheelchairs. A few have beach mats which you can use to get over the soft/dry sand to the wet hard packed sand. Regular wheelchair tires, even balloon or "off-road" type tires are not going to work for most sandy beaches except on the wet/packed sand in Hawaii.

                      Which island(s) are you visiting?
                      If Oahu, here is some information:
                      http://www.honolulu.gov/parks/beach-...ir-access.html
                      http://emerginghorizons.com/beach-wh...irs-in-hawaii/
                      http://wheelchairtraveling.com/hanau...iors-handicap/
                      It is a little more difficult to find beach wheelchairs on other islands, but you can try Googling "beach wheelchair + the island name" to find them.

                      (KLD)
                      The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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                      • #26
                        I cancelled my trip to Hawaii. It’s a long story…

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by wheeler View Post
                          I cancelled my trip to Hawaii. It?s a long story?
                          Oh that's too bad it's a great place to visit.

                          But to answer question for the next trip no the bathrooms are to small but with a little pre planning you can use the restrooms before you go or on a layover.

                          If you bring medical equipment those bags fly no charge.

                          You can bring as many bags as you want but you pay for each bag.

                          One big thing for people flying to Hawaii over pack!!

                          shorts and tshirts is all you need!

                          For a 1st time flyer dont need to do anything other then go to the airport, let the airline issue your boarding pass when you get there and this is where you will tell the 1st agent what you need to make your flight comfortable.

                          You and you chair will then go to tsa and get screened.

                          Then you would head to the gate terminal and check in again. This is where you ask for a ramp supervisor and tell them how you want your chair loaded and how you want to be loaded.

                          You also will get a preboard pass so you can load 1st.

                          Next trip send me a direct message more than willing to help you out.

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                          • #28


                            This is a great series by Spinal Cord Injury BC! Unfortunately, both of my aisle chair transfers were nowhere near as proficient as the one on the video.

                            But an excellent thread on airline travel. KLD, you are the best!

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                            • #29
                              I was just liking this post.

                              Originally posted by wheeler View Post
                              I cancelled my trip to Hawaii. It?s a long story?
                              I am not much a flyer but I do fly for my employer when needed. My first flight post injury was Qingdao, China with a couple connecting flights along the way. Forty-four hours one way. Here's a picture that was posted on NBC News.

                              This is Qingdao, China. I was there in May 2006-7. The unit I stayed in is about a mile to the right of the photo. Photo credit: NBC News The Week in Pictures: April 19 - 26 - Lu Hui / Xinhua via AP.


                              Under the blanket


                              Advection fog drifts across skyscrapers on the waterfront in Qingdao in eastern China's Shandong Province on April 20. A weather system brought clouds and rain to parts of China on Saturday.

                              Ti
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                              "We must overcome difficulties rather than being overcome by difficulties."

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by RollPositive View Post
                                This is just a good generic video of what to expect.

                                I don't believe my transfer went so smoothly. I survived it but it was a little sketchy. I have a much safer solution.

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTPItEfxSeE

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