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    #16
    IsMaisin said it for me; someone should capitalize on this, in such a manner that doesn't inconvenience the real wheelchair users. Maybe offer a concierge service for a prepaid fee to lead people through the airport, help them with their bags, even provide a ride on one of their electric vehicles. They shouldn't be allowed to jump to the head of the security line though; maybe such a concierge service could set them up with food or entertainment while they wait instead.
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      #17
      Originally posted by cass View Post
      unf., old news. same in hotels, theme parks, etc.
      .......... accessible cabins on cruise ships.

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        #18
        once abs find out w/c accessible rooms are bigger, they book them. i actually have confronted both hotels and ab patrons. the hotels say unless the ab guest agrees to move out of w/c accessible, they can do nothing. cruiseships, like hotels, don't really check or care. it is very, very frustrating. i, personally, wish these abs never found out. i once encountered a whole airline crew taking up w/c accessible rooms in hotel. i can't even stomach ppl like paracathy who do it for fun.

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          #19
          Originally posted by cass View Post
          once abs find out w/c accessible rooms are bigger, they book them. i actually have confronted both hotels and ab patrons. the hotels say unless the ab guest agrees to move out of w/c accessible, they can do nothing. cruiseships, like hotels, don't really check or care. it is very, very frustrating. i, personally, wish these abs never found out. i once encountered a whole airline crew taking up w/c accessible rooms in hotel. i can't even stomach ppl like paracathy who do it for fun.
          So true, it all makes sense now. It should be easy to get a HC room, but often it is not, and how many times have you seen a wheelchair? The only time I recall is at a hc convention.
          I have had periodic paralysis all my life. I lost my ability to walk in 2011 beginning with a spinal block, which was used for a hip fracture caused by periodic paralysis.

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            #20
            My stepmom book accessible rooms. And she calls herself a nurse.
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              #21
              Originally posted by cass View Post
              once abs find out w/c accessible rooms are bigger, they book them. i actually have confronted both hotels and ab patrons. the hotels say unless the ab guest agrees to move out of w/c accessible, they can do nothing. cruiseships, like hotels, don't really check or care. it is very, very frustrating. i, personally, wish these abs never found out. i once encountered a whole airline crew taking up w/c accessible rooms in hotel. i can't even stomach ppl like paracathy who do it for fun.
              I have a theory that the abuse of booking h'cap rooms by AB's is in large part responsible for the sky high beds hotels continue to place in h'cap rooms. The abuse is so widespread that most h'cap rooms are utilized by AB's, not gimps, and they expect to find their nice high beds in addition to the nice big room/bathroom. Almost all wheelchair users and elderly with mobility issues don't like high beds but hotels are in the business of satisfying the needs of AB's who just like the bigger room - the same folks who always take the handicapped stall for the same reason.

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                #22
                Karma might get them........

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by ancientgimp View Post
                  I have a theory that the abuse of booking h'cap rooms by AB's is in large part responsible for the sky high beds hotels continue to place in h'cap rooms. The abuse is so widespread that most h'cap rooms are utilized by AB's, not gimps, and they expect to find their nice high beds in addition to the nice big room/bathroom. Almost all wheelchair users and elderly with mobility issues don't like high beds but hotels are in the business of satisfying the needs of AB's who just like the bigger room - the same folks who always take the handicapped stall for the same reason.
                  I hate those sky high beds. As I recall from talking to someone who knows the only new ADA requirement for new construction and remodel is that there has to be clear space under the bed for portable lifts. I'm pretty sure he said bed height was not considered.
                  I have had periodic paralysis all my life. I lost my ability to walk in 2011 beginning with a spinal block, which was used for a hip fracture caused by periodic paralysis.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by nonoise View Post
                    I hate those sky high beds. As I recall from talking to someone who knows the only new ADA requirement for new construction and remodel is that there has to be clear space under the bed for portable lifts. I'm pretty sure he said bed height was not considered.
                    You are right, for some strange reason ADA Guidelines have no specs re bed height. I have traveled since 1973 using hotels extensively. Absolutely no problems re beds in h'cap rooms until the last 5 or 6 years. Suddenly these sky high beds, both my wife and I are chair users, so frustrating.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by ancientgimp View Post
                      You are right, for some strange reason ADA Guidelines have no specs re bed height. I have traveled since 1973 using hotels extensively. Absolutely no problems re beds in h'cap rooms until the last 5 or 6 years. Suddenly these sky high beds, both my wife and I are chair users, so frustrating.
                      Finding a place with a bed that the hoyer legs can go under not easy either.
                      We have a reunion in northern MN this summer and the only place that works is quite expensive.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by LindaT View Post
                        Finding a place with a bed that the hoyer legs can go under not easy either.
                        We have a reunion in northern MN this summer and the only place that works is quite expensive.
                        I think Microtel may have a policy that all beds in h'cap rooms be able to accommodate lifts, however, that is no assurance they all comply. Their policy is also no beds higher than 25" and we encountered a higher bed in a brand new Microtel in Ga and staff were unable to provide a maintenance person to lower the bed. Call in advance and get staff to check bed in your reserved room.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Timaru View Post
                          .......... accessible cabins on cruise ships.
                          Yes, Timaru. Another good example. All cruise lines should enact a policy whereby, if you are found to be AB in a w/c cabin, you are keel hauled!

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                            #28
                            http://travelswithpain.com/2013/02/2...t-the-airport/

                            just saw this...reply to the WSJ article
                            "The trick is in what one emphasizes. We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves happy. The amount of work is the same.” ~Carlos Castaneda

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