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    Travel Lift for Cruise?

    We'll be on a week-long Alaska cruise in August. On our last cruise, we rented a lift; as I recall, that set us back on the order of $275. The lift was the same clunky Hoyer that we have at home, and I could probably buy an equivalent (used) one for the cost of that rental. We used a Beasy board for the transfer to & from the bed in the hotel pre-cruise - that nearly was a disaster, as the bed was so high that we almost didn't make the uphill transfer & my wife nearly hit the floor.
    So anyway, I figure these are our choices now -
    1. We could take our lift with us this time. It only disassembles into a couple of large parts. That would mean rolling it the long way up to the ship, which would make quite a sight, as well as being a PITA.
    2. We could rent again and at least have a lift on the ship; take our chances with the transfer board in the hotel before & after the cruise (I haven't used the board for over a year; we now use the Hoyer and I'm putting in a ceiling lift).
    3. We could purchase a travel lift, like the Molift Smart or Hoyer Advance. But golly, those are expensive, especially the Molift!!! We don't travel much, so I don't know if I could justify that cost. I've been looking on eBay for a number of months, but haven't seen any.
    4. Does anyone between, say, Eugene (we're in Newberg) and Vancouver have a travel lift like one of the above that they would be willing to rent to me for (name a price) for a couple of weeks?

    Any other ideas?
    - Richard

    p.s. Spoke too soon - there's a Molift Smart on eBay right now. Buy it now for (only) $2950!!! Ack.
    Last edited by rfbdorf; 31 May 2009, 12:37 PM.

    #2
    Can't help you with a loan, but check out the Arjo Trixie (no longer made) also list on eBay. Not quite as easy to transport as the Hoyer Advance or Molift, but it does fold up very compact and I have used it in the past...it is a good lift, and one of the better ones for getting someone in and out of a car.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Arjo-Trixie-Pati...3%3A2|294%3A50

    (KLD)
    The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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      #3
      Maybe a local Molift or Liko dealer can let you "demo" the lift...for a week! Dealers are usually listed on manufacturer's websites.

      Hell, renting from someone who has one not in use is a great idea..hopefully someone will know of someone in area here. too bad the cruise ship doesn't have them as accomodations..

      I got a hotel in Jamaica to buy and pay for ..a raised toilet seat when they measured thier toilet at 15" high..but of course that was only under $100!

      I am sure a Veteran could get one from their local VA unit..again as a demo. .

      I wish you luck and have a great time on the cruise..
      "The trick is in what one emphasizes. We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves happy. The amount of work is the same.” ~Carlos Castaneda

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        #4
        KLD, Thanks for the pointer to the Arjo. Unfortunately it's in NY and they won't ship. But I'll put that type on my list to look for.
        Sherocks -Thanks for the ideas. The DMEs I've dealt with won't even do overnight demos.
        - Richard

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          #5
          Originally posted by rfbdorf View Post
          KLD, Thanks for the pointer to the Arjo. Unfortunately it's in NY and they won't ship. But I'll put that type on my list to look for.
          Sherocks -Thanks for the ideas. The DMEs I've dealt with won't even do overnight demos.
          - Richard
          Does your county or nearest CIL have a lending closest? Many places have an amazing range of things. And who you cruising with?
          Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow."

          Disclaimer: Answers, suggestions, and/or comments do not constitute medical advice expressed or implied and are based solely on my experiences as a SCI patient. Please consult your attending physician for medical advise and treatment. In the event of a medical emergency please call 911.

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            #6
            Sue - so I'm being dense. What's CIL?
            We're going to be on Holland America. Like I said earlier, we can rent a lift on the ship, but that would leave us without a lift in the hotel pre- and post-cruise.


            Ah - got it - Center for Independent Living!
            Last edited by rfbdorf; 4 Jun 2009, 2:12 AM.

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              #7
              Originally posted by rfbdorf View Post
              We'll be on a week-long Alaska cruise in August. On our last cruise, we rented a lift; as I recall, that set us back on the order of $275. The lift was the same clunky Hoyer that we have at home.

              Did you rent this fom cruise line or local DME? Was there much room in cabin w/lift,powerchair, etc... I have thought about cruises just did not know how my wife and I could manage all the junk I need in rooms. I am C5 powerchair user.

              BTW-You will luv the ceiling lift best investment in equipment I've made.

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                #8
                We rented from Care Vacations. They deliver the equipment to the ship so it's waiting in your cabin when you arrive (that's why the high price - you're paying for the service). We had plenty of room for the power chair & lift, although rooms vary.
                Originally posted by quad80 View Post
                Did you rent this fom cruise line or local DME? Was there much room in cabin w/lift,powerchair, etc... I have thought about cruises just did not know how my wife and I could manage all the junk I need in rooms. I am C5 powerchair user.

                BTW-You will luv the ceiling lift best investment in equipment I've made.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by quad80 View Post
                  Did you rent this fom cruise line or local DME? Was there much room in cabin w/lift,powerchair, etc... I have thought about cruises just did not know how my wife and I could manage all the junk I need in rooms. I am C5 powerchair user.

                  BTW-You will luv the ceiling lift best investment in equipment I've made.


                  My mother (who is tetrplegic due to MS) has a ceiling lift and roll-in shower at home, but when we cruise (just came back from my 17th and her 38th) we take the following (all of which we own):
                  • Power wheelchair with backpack
                  • Manual chair (needed in ports and as a back-up) with backpack
                  • Travel rolling shower/commode chair (bought nearly new, used on eBay)
                  • Travel lift (bought new; much traveled now)
                  • Slide board and gait belts for transfers to cars in ports and as back-ups (these go in the luggage)
                  We are quite the parade getting on the ship. We gate-check the lift and wheelchairs when flying, then when we get to the pier we check the luggage, shower/commode chair and travel lift with the porters. I put our carry-on bags on the manual chair, strap them down with a bungie cord, and push this and my mother drives her power chair. Her carry-on is primarily bowel and bladder supplies, including bed Chux. Once we arrive on the ship and get the checked luggage, I assemble the shower commode chair and set up the lift. Both nest together well when not in use in the roll-in shower area, and we fold the manual chair and put it someplace out of the way in the cabin (depends on the ship and cabin exactly where). Luggage goes under my bed (not under hers where it would be in the way of the lift). At night, her power chair stays next to the bed (after using the lift for transfers) and is charged there. Always take an extension cord and a power bar as it is rare to have more than one electrical outlet in the whole cabin. If they offer thin egg-crate foam overlays for free (most cruise ships do), we ask for two from our cabin steward and have both put on my mother's bed for pressure reduction.

                  Disembarking from the ship, we need more help as you must put your big luggage out the night before. We can't put the shower/commode or the lift out of course, so when we pack I usually can put the bowel/bladder supplies bag (empty now) in one of the larger suitcases the night before, then put the shower/commode case and my small bag (with my mother's overnight clothing in it) on the manual wheelchair. I then take my mother and the lift to the special disembarkation area for passengers with disabilities on the ship or to the dining room, leave her there, go back and get the manual wheelchair and luggage, and then we eat breakfast. After that, go to the special disembarkation area and ask for a "pusher" to take the wheelchair to the dock with us (while I lug the lift) and then once on the dock get a porter to load up their cart with all to get us to our transportation. It was sure a lot easier when my dad was alive to help with all of this, but then again it is much more difficult to find wheelchair accessible cabins that sleep 3 vs. 2.

                  Be sure you make a packing list you can use for every trip so you don't risk forgetting anything before you leave home.

                  It is a major production, but for us it is worth it to have equipment we know and can rely upon, and we find cruising so much fun and so relaxing that it is worth the hassle. Once you get a system down, it is not bad. Renting is easier, but also less reliable, and of course you won't have the specific lift or power chair you are used to. We have done it, and definitely prefer our way.

                  (KLD)
                  The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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                    #10
                    KLD - Do you think I would be able to check a standard Hoyer lift when we arrive at the pier? Then it would only be the long roll off with it at disembarkation.
                    BTW, the first Molift Smart I've seen on eBay is there now.
                    - Richard

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                      #11
                      wow, kld, you do all that? i'm surprised. been on 4 alaska cruises and 1 carib. i never leave my stateroom until 9:30 or 10 on last day. and i always keep a cath change kit, gloves, etc. with me, not in luggage in hall. i'm in too much pain. they knock but nobody gets nasty. i refuse to sit in pain for 2 hours in a color coded "staging" area. but i don't use a lift. why doesn't the cruise ship personnel help? heck, they are always grabbing stuff out of my hands when i don't even want them to.

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                        #12
                        You might be able to check it, but the way they throw the luggage around it could be damaged. I would instead go to the special needs desk for check-in with it (get help from a porter if needed) and ask for assistance from there. While we do check our lift now that my dad is not here to travel with us, it always makes me very nervous until it shows up in the room and I can make sure it is not damaged.

                        Cass, we don't allow anyone to take the bag with the meds, catheters, and bowel care supplies, and I also like to keep an eye on my own carry on and both wheelchairs. We had our lift damaged once when checked, even though it is very sturdy when folded up. Our system works for us. Can't get anyone to help with gear from the cabin on disembarkation, but nearly always can get help from the special waiting area for passengers with disabilities, so that is what we do. We rarely sit for long before disembarking. By the time we eat breakfast (avoid the Lido at all costs) we usually can be off the ship whenever we want, esp. since my mother is at the top tier for most cruise lines frequent-cruiser programs. It is rare we are not out of the cabin by the required 8AM and off the ship by 930AM at the latest. Of course that means I get up at 5:30AM to start the morning routine....

                        Yes, I saw the Molift. Bids are up to nearly $1000 without meeting the reserve yet.

                        (KLD)
                        The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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                          #13
                          Richard, a CIL is the Center for Independent Living. Each state and city seems to vary but some have or know where lending closets are or if a family is trying to get rid of unneeded items.
                          Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow."

                          Disclaimer: Answers, suggestions, and/or comments do not constitute medical advice expressed or implied and are based solely on my experiences as a SCI patient. Please consult your attending physician for medical advise and treatment. In the event of a medical emergency please call 911.

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                            #14
                            kld, if I may ask the question. If you fly does the airline charge you for the travel lift??

                            Thanks

                            Ron K

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                              #15
                              No, have never been charged as it is considered a mobility item. This includes both USA carriers as well as Air New Zealand and Varig.

                              (KLD)
                              The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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