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    for some reason i decided to try morphine ip and extended release rather than the oxycodone and oxycontin doses.
    of course tonight when i decide to switch over, i am confused with the dosage, how dose morphine sulfate ir 15 mg compare to oxycode 5 mgs?
    just reading all the stuff on morphine , not sure if this was the med to try. i have enough problems with bowels , this sounds worse than oxycontin
    cauda equina

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    well i had to chase th epain all night, i could find anythin on the net about a chart showing the realtionship betwen th etwo. to top it off i couldnt find anything about the dise i have , 15 mgs of morphine sulfate ir.
    normally i would take 20 mgs , 4 oxy tabs on top of my oxycontin evening does , and if the pain is at its normal state, this works well ans i sleep through the night.
    i was too concerned about taking too much ms ir , so i was up all night till past 3am, taking one extra at a time, waitign a hour , no relief taking another, by the time i get to 3am the er morphine and the 30 mgs ir i took at 10 pm was already wearing off , but breathing is a good thing.
    after spending all night reading all the warnings about morphine , i am getting th impression that oxycontin and oxycodone sounds like a much safer combination.
    any feedback.
    i went back on the oxycontin again today , i forgot i have an event on Sunday that i need no bowel problems, at least with oxy i hopefully wont have any surprises.
    cauda equina

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      #3
      Originally posted by metronycguy
      for some reason i decided to try morphine ip and extended release rather than the oxycodone and oxycontin doses.
      of course tonight when i decide to switch over, i am confused with the dosage, how dose morphine sulfate ir 15 mg compare to oxycode 5 mgs?
      just reading all the stuff on morphine , not sure if this was the med to try. i have enough problems with bowels , this sounds worse than oxycontin
      I am so sorry that I didn't look at this earlier. In general, oral oxycodone and oral morphine should be based on the assumption of equipotency, i.e. 1:1 ratio ([url=source[/url]). The three to one ratio is only between oral oxycodone and intravenous morphine. If you are accustomed to taking 5 mg oral oxycodone, the 15 mg of morphine sulfate will probably knock you out.

      You should be aware that males are generally more tolerant of morphine than females and your tolerance decreases with age. However, the most important factor is the what you are accustomed to. People who have been taking morphine for a long time can take as much as 400 mg of morphine a day, enough to drop an elephant in its tracks.

      There is now very substantial experience with morphine dosing in patients with cancer. Very high doses of morphine in fact may be associated with longer survival of patients with painful cancers than patients with lower doses. For example, median survival was 27 days for those receiving high dose (>300 mg/day) and 37 days for those receiving very high dose (>600 mg/day).

      Wise.

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        Originally posted by Wise Young

        There is now very substantial experience with morphine dosing in patients with cancer. Very high doses of morphine in fact may be associated with longer survival of patients with painful cancers than patients with lower doses. For example, median survival was 27 days for those receiving high dose (>300 mg/day) and 37 days for those receiving very high dose (>600 mg/day).

        Wise.
        \\Interesting. I wonder if the longer time is attributed to the extra medication, or to being in less pain?

        Sorry Metro, Back to topic. Hope you get this figured out, up all night waiting for pain meds to kick in is NOT fun! Been there, done that.
        T7-8 since Feb 2005

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          #5
          I'm up to 150mg a day of Morphine and I wish I had never started it. I would rather be on Oxy.
          The withdrawl symptoms are unbearable when I run out.
          I know for dam# sure I wouldn't have become as dependant on Oxy.

          I went for 3 years on Lortab 10/500, 4 time a day, and never had one withdraw if I ran out.
          I would just hurt like hell.
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            #6
            Originally posted by sjean423
            \\Sorry Metro, Back to topic. Hope you get this figured out, up all night waiting for pain meds to kick in is NOT fun! Been there, done that.
            this happens way to many times with me, on good days the 20 mgs of oxy breakthrough will work and i can go lie down.

            sometimes i chase th pain all night, cant get the dose and wait a hour for effect.
            this morphine is weird , i took 60 mgs overall last night, 30 mgs at one time and and 15 and 15 a hour apart , plus the 15 mg extended release at 10 pm i was up all night with pain, at 3 am i finally tried to go to sleep and couldn't.
            today i went back to oxycontin, but have been flying all day,
            th emorphine half life is not supposed to be this long, unless the one morphine ER dose is is stil working? need to call my doc tomorrow, today i had good pain relied , and managed to do a lot of cleaning, something i rarely ever do.
            cauda equina

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              #7
              Originally posted by metronycguy
              just reading all the stuff on morphine , not sure if this was the med to try. i have enough problems with bowels , this sounds worse than oxycontin
              Wondering if any others have opinions/experience re. bowel problems from morphine versus oxycodone? I switched from oxy to morphine hoping for improvement, but discomfort and constipation got much worse, so switched back to oxycodone.

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                #8
                i had a lot of problems with the morphinem nauseos , than i was puking my guts out for a day, not sure if i got impacted and that why i was puking, all i know is morphine and me dont get along.
                went back on oxycontin, may try opana next
                cauda equina

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                  #9
                  When I changed from Morphine Sulphate (MST) I was on 30mg 2 times daily and changed to 40mg Oxycontin 2 times daily.
                  C-5 incomplete , walking with crutches. In controlled pain. Respect to all SCI people.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by metronycguy View Post
                    for some reason i decided to try morphine ip and extended release rather than the oxycodone and oxycontin doses.
                    of course tonight when i decide to switch over, i am confused with the dosage, how dose morphine sulfate ir 15 mg compare to oxycode 5 mgs?
                    just reading all the stuff on morphine , not sure if this was the med to try. i have enough problems with bowels , this sounds worse than oxycontin
                    Hey are you still around....able to talk with me personally?

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                      #11
                      I take MST Morphine 30mg, three times a day. I've had no problems that I did'nt have before the medication. I think bowel issues are a given, at least they have been for me.

                      This is the first medication that has helped me. Has'nt gotten rid of all the pain, but at least I'm able to go to bed and get some sleep once in awhile.

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                        #12
                        my pain doc put me on morphine 15mg twice a day when perks stopped working as good and give 5mg of perks for breakthrough pain. morphine barely did anything so he put back on 7.5mg perks five times a day plus the morphine. honestly the only thing it does is help with the pain which it's what i needed. i don't get any side effects. the first two days i felt like i was a little drunk but then i was fine after that.
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                          #13
                          This thread grabbed my attention as I am battling severe pain cause by a severe injury to my lower right leg along with major nerve damage and osteomyilitis.

                          What have people found as far as the morophine being effective vs oxycodone? I am currentely taking embeda 60mg which is an extended release morophine and I was also taking 4 10mg oxycodone pills the dr just switched me to up to 4 15mg morophine sulphate ir. However they dont seem to have any noticible effect except being sleepy?

                          Not sure what to do about the situation!

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                            #14
                            confused

                            Originally posted by jccarolina View Post
                            I'm up to 150mg a day of Morphine and I wish I had never started it. I would rather be on Oxy.
                            The withdrawl symptoms are unbearable when I run out.
                            I know for dam# sure I wouldn't have become as dependant on Oxy.

                            I went for 3 years on Lortab 10/500, 4 time a day, and never had one withdraw if I ran out.
                            I would just hurt like hell.
                            Ihave been in chronic pain for 25 yrs+ and tried about every medicine on the market. I have been on 80mg oxycontin 4 times a day with 7 15mg roxycodone for breakthrough for about 2 yrs. Since they changed the oxycontin so junkies cannot mainline it, it has stopped workung for me and my bowel movements are, well, gooey. My pain m anagement specialist told me that if you put the old oxy in a glass of water it would dissolve but the new oxy turns into a ball of goo so I guess that explains my bowel movements. Anyway I am changing to 100mg of morphine sulfate 4 times a day with 5 30mg of roxycodone for breakthrough pain. My question is what is the comparison of oxy to morphine and I wonder if this is going to get me through the day. The old oxy was great but they ruined it wahatever they did to it. Can someone elaborate on this for me. thanks.
                            Last edited by chronic forever; 23 Dec 2010, 11:35 AM. Reason: add

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                              #15
                              i take 60mgs twice a day of morphine sulfate. i def. feel the withdrawal in my legs, nothing in the mindset. i think it causes constipation but i take plenty colace daily.

                              oxy withdrawals were def. worse than morphine.

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