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  • #16
    Originally posted by Rook98006 View Post
    For anyone who does partake for pleasure including a feeling of being more physically relaxed. What are the pros and cons of vaping vs smoking in your experience? Cost, convenience, performance???
    Health. Smoking is just unhealthy no matter what. Vaping might be too, but the jury is still out, at least. Eating produces the longest and most profound 'high' in most people with the least (if any) health concerns (unless you count getting WAay higher than intended as a health concern). Smoking is probably the simplest and most accessible approach.
    "I have great faith in fools; self-confidence my friends call it." - Edgar Allen Poe

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    • #17
      try cloud nine from buylegalmeds.com

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Rook98006 View Post
        For anyone who does partake for pleasure including a feeling of being more physically relaxed. What are the pros and cons of vaping vs smoking in your experience? Cost, convenience, performance???
        I'm just speculating here, because as I said above, I've never partaken nor will I for employment reasons. Oddity has it right about the jury being out on whether or not vaping is more "healthy", breathing anything other than air probably isn't good for you, but I think most humans would have a hard time smoking enough marijuana to significantly affect their health unless they had some kind of underlying lung condition. Smoking a couple bowls a day is much different than smoking 30 or 40 cigarettes. Nobody has any idea what vaping (tobacco or thc) is doing to you in the long run at this point though.

        Vaping through either a pen that uses concentrate or cheapish vaporizers that vaporize the natural bud seems a bit harsh on the throat and more cough inducing in comparison to the actual old school smoking. Maybe that would be different with an expensive setup like a volcano or something, but idk. Vaping can be waaaaay more convenient. Vaporizers aren't burning if you aren't actively using them for the most part, which is way more convenient than smoking a blunt or joint, and less messy than a bong or pipe for the most part. I can't comment on cost, but I imagine the cost of producing the concentrates makes them more expensive per high. Also, you could straight up vape in the bathroom of a non-smoking restaurant or bar in a state that strictly outlaws marijuana and no one would ever know you were getting high in there, whereas the production of actual marijuana smoke leaves a pungent and distinct smell.

        One of the main draws of marijuana, imo, is that you get high quick and come down rather quick, so you can be essentially sober 2 or 3 hours after smoking. Maybe vaping lasts slightly less long than smoking, but that might not be a bad thing. I'd advise staying away from edibles. It's really hard to titrate to the exact desired level of intoxication and it takes up to an hour plus to fully kick in, so if you've had too little you're just not gonna get high and if you've had too much you're gonna be desperately holding onto the floor as the room spins and time stands still for the next eight to ten hours.

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        • #19
          Two of my friends who smoke about everyday both went to vaping, because regularly smoking was bothering there throats. The vaping fixed the problem.
          If I smoke indica cannabis it sets my nerves off, but if I smoke sativa it helps with my pain, go figure.
          Seems like it would be the other way around, but it's not.
          T12L1 Incomplete Still here This is the place to be 58 years old

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          • #20
            Originally posted by flying View Post
            Two of my friends who smoke about everyday both went to vaping, because regularly smoking was bothering there throats. The vaping fixed the problem.
            If I smoke indica cannabis it sets my nerves off, but if I smoke sativa it helps with my pain, go figure.
            Seems like it would be the other way around, but it's not.
            Do either help with your spasms?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by HACKNSACK44 View Post
              Do either help with your spasms?
              I don't have spasms, just I want to die type nerve pain, so I can't be much help. Sorry
              T12L1 Incomplete Still here This is the place to be 58 years old

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              • #22
                Originally posted by flying View Post
                I don't have spasms, just I want to die type nerve pain, so I can't be much help. Sorry
                No problem. Thanks

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                • #23
                  I concur that sativa is better for nerve pain. Indica helps me initially but then there's a rebound of much higher nerve pain. Sativa or high CBD strain supposed to be best for spasms.
                  T3 complete since Sept 2015.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Mize View Post
                    I concur that sativa is better for nerve pain. Indica helps me initially but then there's a rebound of much higher nerve pain. Sativa or high CBD strain supposed to be best for spasms.
                    Thanks for the info.

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                    • #25
                      Since my injury in 1981, I tried marijuana once, hoping it would provide some pain relief. Instead, it made the pains worse, because it heightened my perceptions of them. Not the effect I was looking for. It did make my muscles loose.
                      Alan

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Mize View Post
                        I concur that sativa is better for nerve pain. Indica helps me initially but then there's a rebound of much higher nerve pain. Sativa or high CBD strain supposed to be best for spasms.
                        This is exactly how it works for me as well, with what I call a flash off from the indica or mixed cannabis.
                        I can get a flash off from sativa as well, but it's much smaller and lasts shorter in duration. It's not that easy to find pure sativa, because it takes forever to flower, and the flowers are much smaller, so it's mixed with the indica for better production.
                        T12L1 Incomplete Still here This is the place to be 58 years old

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                        • #27
                          I've heard there is a world of difference between strains and even genotypes of the same strain, on top of the differences between sativa, indica, and the various hybrids. From what I've read, one of the lesser known cannabinoids, THCV, has shown some promise with helping nerve pain. I don't know how much research has been done on it. Most focus on the better known cannabinoids such as THC and CBD, but there are more than 80 known cannabinoids and they each have their own properties and interactions with each other. I am only aware of two cannabinoid receptors (of course, a lot of medical doctors are barely even aware our bodies have an endocannabinoid system, let alone anything about the receptors and how they work) and different cannabinoids have a stronger affinity for one or the other. I have also heard that even if one has a stronger affinity for a particular receptor type, if there is an high amount of it, there are cases where it might dislodge something from the other receptor. I've heard that about CBD and THC. IIRC, THC binds primarily to the CB1 receptor and CBD to the CB2 receptor, but if there's a high ratio of CBD, then it might be capable of dislodging some THC from the CB1 receptor. I didn't mean to get too deep into that (and I barely have a grasp of it myself anyway) but that helps demonstrate how the differing balance of cannabinoids in various strains can have a different effect. They all have to share just a couple of receptors.

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                          • #28
                            The hardest thing is finding what might work for muscle spasms in FL. The only thing I have found is Dogwalker OG.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Rook98006 View Post
                              For anyone who does partake for pleasure including a feeling of being more physically relaxed. What are the pros and cons of vaping vs smoking in your experience? Cost, convenience, performance???
                              With vaping you can control your intake better to get a mellow high to a strong high. With smoking you don't have so much control. The problem with both for controlling spasms is that you may build up a tolerance pretty quickly. Then what? With the baclofen pump you can keep going up on the dose without much side effects. With weed, if you keep using more it can change your personality ranging from apathetic to psychotic. I have given up on it for therapeutic effects. I use it only for relaxation but only periodically, same as alcohol.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by HACKNSACK44 View Post
                                The hardest thing is finding what might work for muscle spasms in FL. The only thing I have found is Dogwalker OG.
                                I usually hear that strains with higher CBD are good for spasms.

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