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    new device for pain management Approved by the FDA today

    http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsro...ce=govdelivery
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    #2
    Great. I'm supposed get the trial implants for the spinal cord stimulator in a couple weeks and I read in this article that paresthesia is a common problem with them. They really don't mention that part when they're pitching the idea to you.

    I already have severe paresthesia along with the pain; That's what the damned stimulator is supposed to help with. I got talked into trying it instead of the DREZ procedure but I should have known if it actually helped a lot of people it'd be highly recommended in the pain threads here. I'm going ahead with the trial but what little hope I had is now replaced with a slight sense of despair about worsening the pain or spreading it to other areas.

    Back to reality.
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      #3
      seems to be lie a scs with a lower freq, and no parenthis effect which means it musdt be for low level pain, i had two scs , the second one a 8 paddle laminactomy implanted one, not a wire, it didnt work, it didmt work on the or table and they always implant anyway
      if it replaced my pain with paresthesia , i would have been singing its praises. i have som one hack-sawing off my toes, severe electrocutions insane pain,

      another r issue i see with this device , is it considers it a success if it reduces pain by 50%, yet it takes 3 months to a year to get the pain relieved, but the trial period is for a week, so they will be implanting them in everybody, telling the patients it gets better pain relief the longer it is in.
      cauda equina

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        #4
        I get the same electrical pulse, burning and paresthesia in my foot. On good days it's an annoyance. On bad days it's almost unbearable and radiates up my leg to my lower back. The neurosurgeon said that since the pain is usually located in one area that the scs should help. I read about the people on here with this pain all over and don't think I could do it.

        Had the MRI done yesterday and the CT is Monday. In a couple weeks I have to drive 3 hours for pre-op tests, stay in a hotel, then stay in the hospital for 3-4 days for the procedure and trial. Just thinking all of this is probably a huge waste of time gets me down but the neurosurgeon is donating their time and the device was donated by St. Jude's. I'll go through with the trial but with little to no expectations of pain relief.
        No human society, present or past, has lacked music. Music is therefore one of the very few human universals, which puts it on the same level as food and sex.
        Fredric Lieberman

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          #5
          About a year ago I had a trial of the standard spinal cord stimulator for my neuro pain. It was not successful. Another doctor wants me to try the new one, probably sometime this summer. I'm not optimistic - but I am desperate.
          Last edited by StarLord; 3 Jun 2015, 10:32 AM.

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            #6
            Originally posted by StarLord View Post
            About a year ago I had a trial of the standard spinal cord stimulator for my neuro pain. It was not successful. Another doctor wants me to try the new one, probably sometime this summer. I'm not optimistic - but I am desperate.
            That's the only reason I'm going through with this trial. If it doesn't work then we'll look at DREZ or radio frequency nerve lesioning.
            No human society, present or past, has lacked music. Music is therefore one of the very few human universals, which puts it on the same level as food and sex.
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              #7
              Just got home a few hours ago from doing the trial. I got 0 relief and only felt a slight buzzing in my lower back and sometimes my abdomen. This led my neurosurgeon to reverse their opinion about trying DREZ.

              I did get to experience intubation while awake though. I woke up as they were taking turns trying to get the breathing tube in me. I was scared shitless but thankfully the meds kicked in before they started cutting. It was strange trying to make my arm move to signal them and nothing happen and then having my air cut off for a few seconds again off and on for what seemed like a horrible 10 minutes. I'm pretty sure they split a rib on the OR table too, it's hurt worse than anything else since then. Ain't SCI grand?
              No human society, present or past, has lacked music. Music is therefore one of the very few human universals, which puts it on the same level as food and sex.
              Fredric Lieberman

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                #8
                Out of curiosity - did you try the standard spinal cord stimulator or did you try the newer (Nevro) stimulator?

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                  #9
                  It is the paresthesia that blocks the pain. I had trial, but silent or only burning at 9V! However, TENS on skin worked, but profuse sweating and developed allergy.

                  Now what happens when the rock bottom software decides to burn you at constant 9V?

                  If the TENS burns you at 90V you can turn it off or pull the leads off.

                  With an implated device you need to find big magent and hope that it turns off!
                  Last edited by zagam; 28 Feb 2016, 1:08 PM. Reason: corrupted input
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                    #10
                    Anyone else try this out?

                    I'm meeting with a new neurosurgeon tomorrow to see if he'll consider it. I've read of only one other first hand experience, same injury as me (arm paralysis due to nerve root avulsions at spinal cord - brachial plexus injury). The implant receiver posted on a facebook page dealing with our injury. He amputated his arm a few years back and has tried 2 SCS implants previously with no success. The Nervo gives him 85-90% relief, which is out of the ballpark as far as I'm concerned, at least best I've ever heard of for this type of injury. He went through the 2 week trial and had the fulltime device implanted a few weeks ago. Still good as far as he reports...

                    If I go through with it, I'll post my results here...
                    otherwise DREZ days approach.

                    Thanks

                    NERVO = SENZA same company

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                    Last edited by cljanney; 9 Aug 2016, 4:38 PM.

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                      #11
                      Hi cljanney, I'm a T-4 complete SCI, and live with pain in lower back. My pain doc has referred me to a specialist for the Senza trial. Just wondering if you ever got anywhere with this and if it was helpful to control pain. Thanks much, Mark

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                        #12
                        Hey Mark, not yet. My initial appointment for postponed a month and I just met my surgeon this morning for the first time. He normally works with Saint Jude devices but IDF looking into the possibility of having 1 trial implant lead in place and trying multiple devices with the 1 lead over the course of a few weeks.

                        There's a Facebook group based in the UK of folks using the Nevro Senza Device that might be worth joining to talk to others. Problem is usually people voice complaints much more than benefits. Search "Nevro Senza Spinal Cord Stimulator UK Group" and ask to join.

                        FYI my injury is a Brachial Plexus Injury with 3 nerves torn from the spinal cord, in 13 years I've never heard of anyone getting significant pain relief with a SCS device, recently someone with the same injury and ended up amputating his arm has had 85-90% relief, he's also tried 2 other implants before the Nevro Senza. Obviously 1 person doesn't prove anything, but it's enough for me to try.

                        I'll post here as soon as anything changes on my end.

                        Best of luck,
                        Chris

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                          #13
                          I have neuropathic pain in my back and legs from neuromuscular disease. I tried the Nevro spinal cord stimulator this past June. I did not work for me. Hopefully it will work for you.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by StarLord View Post
                            I have neuropathic pain in my back and legs from neuromuscular disease. I tried the Nevro spinal cord stimulator this past June. I did not work for me. Hopefully it will work for you.
                            StarLord, thanks for the input, I'm still in a waiting pattern and researching more. Sorry the device didn't work out for you. Hope you find relief somehow soon. Please keep us posted if you do.

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                              #15
                              Mmmm. my doc is pushing it at me. I've had bad results with the old style medtronics including some serious side effects. My current thinking is to pass. Too many disappointments with too many complications. Her feeling ...what have I got to lose, nothing else is helping, easy from the dull side of the scalpel, don't misunderstand, love her, just tired. A side note, it requires frequent charging -daily for 45 minutes. If anyone does it, let me know what happens

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