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  • #16
    Originally posted by ECUrach85 View Post
    ... what is a tincture?
    If I'm in a non medical marijuna state then how do I get something so specific?
    A tincture is made by soaking pot in alcohol (I use gin) for a couple weeks in a dark cool place (I put it in the freezer).
    Then the liquid is strained off.

    It is as simple as that.

    It can then be heated to reduce it down some but I don't bother with that step.

    I make it from the 'shake', i.e. the trimmings that are normally thrown away.

    The effects are totally different from smoking.
    Subtle yet effective.

    I haven't noticed much difference between the strains that I've used.

    Jeff
    Doh!

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    • #17
      [QUOTE=dragon fly;1704350]Hi everyone, Thanks for your input. Of all the things suggested, the tincture is the only one I haven't tried.

      Hi, have you tried a vaporizer? It's the only way besides edibles that I use. No smell, no carcinagins, very easy to regulate amount needed, uses very little weed (about half) This is a very healthy and effective way for me to medicate , quit all my other pain meds 9 months ago gabapentin and lyrica, now I'm awake all day and have an appetite. Lots of info @ fc vaporizer forum I use the "ariser solo" vape and sometimes I vape thru water(vaporbonging) makes it even smoother. Good luck finding relief!

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      • #18
        trying to find pain doctor?

        hi iam in struggle right now with my pain it gets so bad were i can not function wa state is so bad for pain management exp if your on medicaid does anyone out there know any pain docs or pain clinics that are legiate that care about you as a person when your in pain ???? thanks need a reply pls

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        • #19
          Hey JeffH,
          Thanks for the recipe for tincture. Good to know you can make it at home but I guess I don't understand the final product. I thought a tincture was a liquid that you'd use an eye dropper to squirt some into your coffee or under your tongue or wherever. So when you say "then the liquid is strained off" you mean that the liquid is separated from the shake and becomes the tincture. (ok I had to read this a couple times to "get" it.) Once prepared, how much do you use for a dose and how much alcohol do you use per gram (or whatever) of pot? If you freeze the concoction for 2 weeks are the results the same? I will try this before going to the pot store.

          WillVape, Yes I've used a vaporizer before but maybe because of the strain of pot I have, I can easily get wigged out and perceive more pain. Agreed it is a far healthier way than smoking.

          painelizabeth30, I really understand where you're coming from. I've spent 75% of this day reeling from the pain - it interferes with everything I do. My pain doctor's specialty is Palliative Care - that's end of life care where they try to keep the patient as comfortable as possible w/o worrying about addiction issues (compassionate care). Because of her work, she is an expert on psycho-pharmacology and does pain management as well. Maybe you can look into that specialty for a Pain Manager. Meanwhile, I've found that when the pain is so bad, I can't do anything else anyway, I focus my mind on the pain. It seems counter-intuitive but if I can "listen" to my pain, accept it the best I can and relax, I'm able to see that it is not infinite and if I don't clinch all my muscles every time it comes on, I'm a little more comfortable. Good luck, I wish I had more to offer.

          Linda

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          • #20
            You have to find that one thing that helps. It is trial and error with alot of things.

            The increase in burning is directly related to stress, humidity, and other outside factors. Or that has been my experience. I have learned how to use distractions and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy which does help on really bad days.

            You have to just try everything until you find what works for you. It sounds like a broken record but that is the only thing you can do. It is different for everyone.
            T12-L2; Burst fracture L1: Incomplete walking with AFO's and cane since 1989

            My goal in life is to be as good of a person my dog already thinks I am. ~Author Unknown

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            • #21
              Originally posted by dragon fly View Post
              ... Once prepared, how much do you use for a dose and how much alcohol do you use per gram (or whatever) of pot? If you freeze the concoction for 2 weeks are the results the same? I will try this before going to the pot store.

              WillVape, Yes I've used a vaporizer before but maybe because of the strain of pot I have, I can easily get wigged out and perceive more pain. Agreed it is a far healthier way than smoking.

              ... I can't do anything else anyway, I focus my mind on the pain. It seems counter-intuitive but if I can "listen" to my pain, accept it the best I can and relax, I'm able to see that it is not infinite and if I don't clinch all my muscles every time it comes on, I'm a little more comfortable. Good luck, I wish I had more to offer.

              Linda
              Linda,
              Yes you got it, the liquid (with the THC and cannabanoids dissolved in it) is the tincture.
              It doesn't freeze, after all it's alcohol, and I've seen explanations as to why it should be prepped in the freeezer, though i'm no chemist.
              I have friends who don't use a freezer, they just store it in a cool dark place.
              I've also seen chemist types explain why dark is good too.

              No matter, i found what works for me. Here's a recap of the directions.

              Grind (like in a blender) or simply crush the shake.
              Pack it into a jar.
              Soak and cover with alcohol (the higher the proof the better, however, I've used everclear and it just tastes awful, that's why I prefer Gin).
              Two weeks in the freezer (more or less).
              Shake or stir every day or so.
              Add more alcohol if needed, a little free liquid makes it easier to stir.
              Strain using cheesecloth.
              Store in the freezer (keeps it dark and cool)

              Then I keep some in a bottle with an eyedropper.
              Some in a small spray bottle.

              Dosage is pretty easy to figure out - just keep increasing until you don't like the effects. Too much and you might feel anxious, woozy, or light headed.
              No big deal though those effects seldom last more than fifteen minutes or so.
              Anyway just back off a little next time.
              Made with Gin, as described above, I've found about 3/4 of an eyedropper full about right. Thats about 25 to thirty drops.
              Bad days I'll use a 1 and 1/4 eyedroppers.

              I've been given some tinctures that have been reduced (concentrated) by heating off most if the alcohol.
              Some of those tinctures only require two to five drops to be effective.

              In a hot drink the alcohol 'boils' off and really isn't tasted.

              So I start my day with about 20 - 30 drops of my weak tincture in coffee.

              Often, it lasts until evening.
              If I need a boost, I use the spray bottle and take a few spritzes under the tongue.

              It really is as simple as it sounds.

              The effects are so subtle that I only notice when I miss a dose.

              Primary effect is to reduce spasms and spasticity, which I believe indirectly reduces or keeps the pain at bay.

              I too have had good success with focusing on the pain.
              Especially after smoking pot.
              Instead of walling off the pain I get into it and try to understand the sensations.
              Then, as you say, try to relax and accept the sensations.
              It has definitely helped.

              FWIW, I don't like using a vaporizer.
              Seems to bother my lungs more, it's too easy to get loaded, and like smoking can aggravate the pain.
              YMMV

              It's 7 PM and my back, which I can't feel, is killing me.
              Time for a cookie...
              Good luck,
              Jeff
              Doh!

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