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  • Just diagnosed with Degenerative Disc Disease

    Hello all. I am new here as you can see.

    I've been in constant back pain with intense muscle spasms since November.
    I woke up one day, had unusal pain in my back. I went to work. A delivery came and i was handed a 25lb box. My back got intense pain, I could not bend my back at all and was in very intense pain. Sinice then, I've been seeing a chiroprator a few times a week. I got an x ray in novmeber, he looked at it and just said if I goto a doctor, they will just give me pills. So anyway I've still been seeing him. He cracks my back all the time, Then I get a back rub. I feel good for a few hours, but then it comes back...

    So I was unhappy with not knowing what is really wrong and the constant back cracking has me worried it might do more damage. From the knots in my back, he said it was a 90% muscle issue.

    Well I finally went to my doctor about my pains, and she got me an RX for a MRI on the thoracic region. 2 days latter, still in constant pain, I have the results...

    Evidence of degenerative disc disease at t5-t6 & t7-t8. At t5-t6 there is a right paracentral disc protrusion that is indenting the thecal sac paracentrally to the right of the midline. At t7-t8 there is also evidence of a mild right paracentral disc protrusion that also indents the thecal sac paracentrally to the right of the mindline.


    I've done some reading up on DDD. And found two concerning factors..
    I am only 25 years old, it is very rare for someone my age to have this.
    And it is even more rare for DDD to be in the thoracic region. It is always in the top or lower spine, rarely the center.

    I am 25, and have constant back pain, How will I be in 5/10 years? I am scared to do any lifting, when I just stretch out my back muscles, I get cracking in my spine.. I don't get this when I'm not in pain..


    What is a paracentral disc protrusion? Is this the term for a slipped disc? Will seeing my chiropractor more hurt my back and make it worse? I plan to bring him the MRI results so he can know what is wrong me me seeing as he has been clueless for months and just keeps cracking.

    I am going to a therapy session next week, and 3 weeks from now I have an appointment with a neurosurgeon. WHat can I expect? I was told i would get shots most likely, But would like to fix this long term. I heard shots don't work that well nor last long. I don't want to be a slave to a needle for the next 50-60 years of my life.

    What other options are there? How much worse can the DDD get and the protrusion?

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    Also, any type of RX medications I should ask for to try out? I was reading up on Soma last night, and it sounded interesting. Right now I need some opitates for the pain, I've been on pain medication before and know the only ones that have worked for me were oxycodene and diladid. I'm sure my new doc would not write RX's for those until I wasted my time and co pays on RX asprains.

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    • #3
      Paracentral is describing the location-it is in the center, not left or right.
      You need to take NSaids. not narcotics except maybe at night.Also, some people are trying calcium & Vitamin D & gucosamine to try & prevent the softening of the bones.

      The chiropractor needs to be very careful not to injure the spinal cord.You should try seeing a physical therapist.
      CWO
      The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by SCI-Nurse
        Paracentral is describing the location-it is in the center, not left or right.
        You need to take NSaids. not narcotics except maybe at night.Also, some people are trying calcium & Vitamin D & gucosamine to try & prevent the softening of the bones.

        The chiropractor needs to be very careful not to injure the spinal cord.You should try seeing a physical therapist.
        CWO
        I am starting to see a physical therapist this week.
        The Chiropractor has been seeing me since the pains started and never told me to get an xray or MRI. Getting a MRI was my idea as all he does is crack my back, then has someone give me a half hour back rub. I am seeing him Tuesday and going to bring him my MRI report and see what he says. I am seeing a spinal specialists in 2 weeks.

        I requested the drug soma, I read about it and i believe it belong in the group you specified.

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        • #5
          For those who post here with back pain, disc problems and other spinal (not spinal cord) problems, I would recommend instead that you use a forum that is designed for these types of issues.

          http://brain.hastypastry.net/forums/...play.php?f=251

          Our focus is on those with spinal CORD injury (paralysis, bowel and bladder dysfunction, etc.). We are also not equipped to provide you diagnosis or medical management, either for your spinal problems or your pain. We cannot replace the evaluation and advice of an experienced physician who specializes in spinal problems.

          (KLD)
          The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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          • #6
            any meds anyone can recommend? for pain and muscle spasming?

            I am seeing my doc tomorrow sinice she wont give me an RX over the phone, cheap place, wants to make money on a visit just so i can tell her in person i need some pills

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            • #7
              finally found someone else!!

              Originally posted by xkwox
              Hello all. I am new here as you can see.

              I've been in constant back pain with intense muscle spasms since November.
              I woke up one day, had unusal pain in my back. I went to work. A delivery came and i was handed a 25lb box. My back got intense pain, I could not bend my back at all and was in very intense pain. Sinice then, I've been seeing a chiroprator a few times a week. I got an x ray in novmeber, he looked at it and just said if I goto a doctor, they will just give me pills. So anyway I've still been seeing him. He cracks my back all the time, Then I get a back rub. I feel good for a few hours, but then it comes back...

              So I was unhappy with not knowing what is really wrong and the constant back cracking has me worried it might do more damage. From the knots in my back, he said it was a 90% muscle issue.

              Well I finally went to my doctor about my pains, and she got me an RX for a MRI on the thoracic region. 2 days latter, still in constant pain, I have the results...

              Evidence of degenerative disc disease at t5-t6 & t7-t8. At t5-t6 there is a right paracentral disc protrusion that is indenting the thecal sac paracentrally to the right of the midline. At t7-t8 there is also evidence of a mild right paracentral disc protrusion that also indents the thecal sac paracentrally to the right of the mindline.


              I've done some reading up on DDD. And found two concerning factors..
              I am only 25 years old, it is very rare for someone my age to have this.
              And it is even more rare for DDD to be in the thoracic region. It is always in the top or lower spine, rarely the center.

              I am 25, and have constant back pain, How will I be in 5/10 years? I am scared to do any lifting, when I just stretch out my back muscles, I get cracking in my spine.. I don't get this when I'm not in pain..


              What is a paracentral disc protrusion? Is this the term for a slipped disc? Will seeing my chiropractor more hurt my back and make it worse? I plan to bring him the MRI results so he can know what is wrong me me seeing as he has been clueless for months and just keeps cracking.

              I am going to a therapy session next week, and 3 weeks from now I have an appointment with a neurosurgeon. WHat can I expect? I was told i would get shots most likely, But would like to fix this long term. I heard shots don't work that well nor last long. I don't want to be a slave to a needle for the next 50-60 years of my life.

              What other options are there? How much worse can the DDD get and the protrusion?
              HI I am also new! I have been searching forever to find someone else who has degeneration in there Thorasic region. I also had severe back pain. I went to my chiropractor for years. I was a meat cutter, manager and was lifting heavy weight. I was also physically abused from 11-16 years old. Thrown against the wall several times. Ok, now after I could not take the pain anymore, and my chiropractor seemed to be doing more harm than good I went to my doctor. She said to me I was too young to be in so much pain. I took it upon myself to go to a specialist. He sent me in for an MRI. I recieved the results, and the questions began. He asked me if I was ever abused, as having degeneration in this area is very rare, and is not operable. It is located behind the heart. I was then sent to a pain clinic. It has been a nightmare ever since. They set me up with a tenz unit, which doesn't work for me. They also tried to give me some type of steroid injections, which they never explained to me what they are. I do not get those anymore. They layed me up for days afterward and never really help the pain. I try to meditate often as possible, stretch my back by laying flat or against the wall. I do take pain medication on a regular basis. It is not working anymore, as it is the nature of the beast, you take it for a certain amount of time and you need an increase. I have been on vicodin now for almost three years, and the effects have now worn off. So I am back to being in severe pain, and they will not increase me to anything stronger. Does not make sense to me. I am allergic to a lot of medications, motrin, naproxin's, I bleed, and I have fibromyalgia and athritis, carpal tunnel, allergic to many foods, so all around at 35 I feel like a wreck most of the time. I also have IBS. I am afraid to try any supplements. I heard some supplements can help with the degenerative disc disease, but then I hear otherwise. I was taking shark cartlidge for a while, but I felt weird on it, wonder why? LOL. Just wish you luck, don't feel alone, always question your doctors, and seek the answers that you are comfortable with you know your body! email me anytime Venus18Degrees @ aol.com

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              • #8
                DDD Can Be Dangerous!!!

                I don't mean to scare anyone, but I'm 37 years old and have DDD at various levels from my cervical area to the lumbar region of the spine. Most of the degeneration, however, is in the Thoracic region. I too have been told that this is rare.

                Anyway, I have dealt with severe back pain since my early 20's. I don't think my doctors took me seriously and last June I ended up with an SCI because of the disease. The danger is that when discs degenerate, the body sometimes reacts by creating calcium deposits (bone spurs). I ended up with an SCI by bending over my washing machine to pull out some wet laundry. A disc ruptured, and a bone spur broke off and cut into my spinal cord.

                My advice is to find a doctor who will take this seriously!!! It's really hard to find good doctors :-(
                "The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off." -Gloria Steinem

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                • #9
                  Welcome to CareCure.

                  Degenerative Disc Disease (DDD) is a serious problem and one that afflicts millions of people. It is one of the most difficult conditions to deal with clinically because surgery contribute to the problems. The spine is flexible. Surgery usually involve fusion (at least now). While fusion eliminates the problem at one joint, it usually creates more problems for the surrounding joints. Spine movements are distributed over many joints. When the movement is distributed fewer joints, each joint gets more wear and tear. Thus, in people with degenerative disc disease, the decision to fuse must be made cautiously and only when absolutely necessary. Each time there is a fusion, the surrounding segments are put at much greater risk of further degeneration.

                  Once they get the diagnosis of degenerative disc disease, people need to take the diagnosis seriously and change their lifestyles to protect their spines as much as possible. They need to stop doing things that stress their spines. If they are overweight, they must lose weight. They must stop carrying things and doing physical labor that puts stresses on their spine. This is, by the way, common sense.

                  In the future, fusion will no longer be done for degenerative disc disease. What is necessary is a new technology to rebuild or replace discs and joints. This is becoming possible for the first time with chondrocytes and mesenchymal stem cell transplants. Many laboratories are working on this problem but it has not reached clinical trial stage yet.

                  Wise.

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                  • #10
                    I am not sure if i missed it or not but how did the MRI turn out.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by dizzal View Post
                      I am not sure if i missed it or not but how did the MRI turn out.

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                      • #12
                        looks like a pretty safe spine. Don't let them get you too worked up. Some radiologists get more excited about minor findings than others. They cannot be sure those findings have any relationship to your pain. Be safe, but don't worry too much about it.

                        Have your doc walk through the MRI with you and explain each of the findings.

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                        • #13
                          i've got two dics compltetly gone and pushing against my spinal cord, notice that there is not space between the cord in spine in my mid back. emgs have found mutiple raidopaties. and a catscan mylogram has back it up

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                          • #14
                            there reports says i have to hernated dics, it is very simple. i showed it to my pain dr and he was like wow, i am happy that you brought this in to me (hes be giving me pain meds based off reports for 18 months) and he finaly got to see it for himself. and said it looked very painful and was happy i brought it in. i am seeing my neurologist next month to see what he thinks and this is a newer mri

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                            • #15
                              Have a spine surgeon discuss it with you - not the pain doc. Looks like there is plenty of spinal fluid behind the cord.

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