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    #46
    back protection

    To be more specific I got my back protector from dogfunk.com. Hope it helps.

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      #47
      Thank you! *heads there now*

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        #48
        L1 compression

        Hi Guys,

        I was travelling in Australia and suffered an L1 compression fracture - I was in a 4 wheel drive on Fraser Island, went over a bump, went up off the seat and slammed back down hard. I suffered no neuro problems, but the compression was around 25% and shifted towards my spinal chord. Because of this I was put into a backbrace. I was told I would be in the Backbrace for 6-12 wks. I returned home to Dublin for treatment and my consultant has said I can come out of the backbrace and and do mobility physio for the next four wks. Since I have come out of the backbrace I am suffering from pain and discomfort in my lower back (at hip level) when I have been up and about for a few hours(this is not at the area of the break). My physiotherapist told me that my lower back and stomach muscles need to be be strengthened as they would be weak from wearing the backbrace. I was just wondering if anyone else had pain and discomfort after removing the backbrace and did their physio help with this?

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          #49
          get an 2nd opinion

          you must get a second opinion even ask your dr friend for his suggestions if he is worth his salt he will provide you with another md but make it clear you want to se a specialist with this type of training. don't go to a chiropractor that would be the worst thing you could do i made that mistake and it really got bad. one of my md told me never under any way were a brace that it would get so i could move without my brace his suggestion was the best. make sure you get multiple mris of your entire back and neck a specialist is what you need and get to one quickly the sooner the better... take it from one who knows. todate i've had 5 back surgeries and it still isn't right i may be on my way in for number six i waiting to hear from #1 specialist to find out who #2 specialist is going to be.Their recommendations really are fair .....
          Good Luck and God Bless
          bj (wilber)
          Sunshine 51

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            #50
            T12 recovery time, brace info & getting back in the saddle

            I took a spill two days ago (Tues, Sept. 16) after a log jump in my barn's cross country course. I couldn't move from the searing pain, so they strapped me to a board & took me to the ER by ambulance. After lots of x-rays and one cat scan, I was told I had a compression fracture of my T12 vertebrae. The ER doc said it was a 50/50 chance I would need surgery (very helpful). Once the ER released me, I took my cat scan disc to a dear friend of mine, who happens to be a very well respected neurosurgeon in Texas. He looked at the scan, put me in a brace (something between rock climbing gear and a day pack) and wants to do serial x-rays every two weeks (for 8-12wks) to make sure I'm healing properly. However, should I not heal properly, he said fairly major surgery will be necessary. After hearing all the awful possible outcomes from this sort of injury, I would agree that finding a reputable neurosurgeon is imperative!!! When it comes to neurological issues, failing to find a neurosurgeon (or at least a neurologist) would feel pretty reckless to me.

            My questions: 1) is the requisite immobilizing brace really uncomfortable to everyone, or is it just me? I have an "Aspen Quikdraw." Should I just get used to it, or have it fitted again? Standing is okay, but sitting is pretty awkward & uncomfortable. 2) I had to promise my friend/doc I would live a very sedentary life for the next 8-12 weeks. I know every case is different, but are some people really being told not to ride for a whole year??? I'm not allowed to muck my stall or feed my horse for at least the first month, but I never imagined I might be looking at a whole year off my horse! 3) For the riders out there: what is the general opinion on protective vests? USEA requires them in cross country eventing, but USPC says it's up to the rider. I'm wondering if the vest would protect me from injuries like this in the future.

            Thank you, in advance, for any comments or advice you may have! ~Sydney

            PS I'm happy to report, I was wearing my helmet. I definitely hit my head, but thanks to my IRH Elite riding helmet, I hit without incident.
            Last edited by sydneydt; 18 Sep 2008, 7:32 PM.

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              #51
              Back in the saddle.

              It's been a little over a year since I had my T12 fracture, 30 percent compression. It was Aug. 18 2007. My back brace was not unbearable. I felt better with it on then off. It took me I think about 3 months to get back on the horse and 6 months to really get back to riding. I bought a back protector from a snowboarding company, which I wore with my soft back brace and a helmet. I only walked in the very beginning and then walk and jog. I am totally back to normal now although I do ware the back protector and helmet now. I was concern about the horses not being ridden. I asked my vet. I fed them a little less and I switched from sweet feed to low starch. I did ground work as much as I could as soon as I could. I think It was about after a month from the accident. The horses responded fine. I have two of them and I am the only rider. I am back in the saddle and all is well with the three of us.

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                #52
                Congrats karern1.

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                  #53
                  A&E Did Not X-Ray Me To Find Fracture!

                  Hello I am a 42 year old professional Horse Rider who fell from my horse in April this year. I was taken by ambulance to hospital on a back board and examined by doctor. I was x-rayed on my pelvis but not my back. Was given more and more pain killers as i told them I could not move. After 9 hours in emergency I was discharged, practically carried to car and told it was damaged muscles. After 4 months of agony my osteo who refused to treat me told me he thought I had a back fracture. Turns out i have both vertical and horizontal fracture in L1 and disc herniation so T12 disc not in body of L1.

                  Has anyone had an experience of hospitals missing fractures?

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by lillingstone
                    Hello I am a 42 year old professional Horse Rider who fell from my horse in April this year. I was taken by ambulance to hospital on a back board and examined by doctor. I was x-rayed on my pelvis but not my back. Was given more and more pain killers as i told them I could not move. After 9 hours in emergency I was discharged, practically carried to car and told it was damaged muscles. After 4 months of agony my osteo who refused to treat me told me he thought I had a back fracture. Turns out i have both vertical and horizontal fracture in L1 and disc herniation so T12 disc not in body of L1.

                    Has anyone had an experience of hospitals missing fractures?
                    Oh yeah, I went 50 days before they found my T 12 Burst fracture, missed by the hospital and rehab after I told them while laying in the Hiway that my back was broken. I had brken it before and knew what it felt like

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                      #55
                      I was in aforklift accident 3 years ago.it broke and droped me. My pain was not to bad, i felt a giant ball in thoracic,within a few days that ball turned into a pain like no other , to breathe was so hard,my legs didnt go where i wanted them to, i was the other guy in the eveready battery comercial . t8 was a comp frac. Doctors would not listen and try to understand . they missed it ,it was a month into it , then they but me in traction and hyperextension brace, Now ive been in bed the most part of 3 years i battle daily to get out ,these doctors have been trying to wein me off brace pushing me threw the pain of therapy causing me to looze everything from stomach down, i put on hyperextension brace and i get legs back in 15 min . These doctors would not listen , I went to a doctor that understands SCI , after 3 years theres a name on it unstable thoracic spine. Im not shure where we go from here .im so gratefull that a doctor finally understands.
                      Last edited by lespaul; 9 Nov 2008, 12:29 PM. Reason: not done

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                        #56
                        Kyphoplasty after T-12 compression fracture

                        In March of 2007 I was bucked off my horse (as many others in this forum have also spoken of) and was in the hospital for 6 days. Within 3 weeks of my release I had Kyphoplasty done of my compression fracture which helped me to regain much of the height in the vertebra and reduced the compression of nerves and reducing my pain greatly. Unfortunately, this procedure must be done within weeks of fracture, so this post will only be informative for the newly injured.

                        Has anybody else had this procedure? If so, what was your outcome? I still have quite a bit of pain at the point of fracture and 3 levels above. My pain, however, is not nearly as extreme as before the surgery and my back is much more stable. I am getting ready to have radio-frequency nerve ablation therapy next week to kill the offending nerves. I am hoping that it is successful and I can reduce the amount of medications required for my day to day pain control.

                        My advice for people with any type of spinal fracture is this..... Get yourself in to see either a neurosurgeon, an orthopedic surgeon, or a spinal pain specialist to have your spine evaluated by someone who knows what to look for. If you wait too long for diagnosis and correct treatment of your injury you will have crippling pain for the rest of your life.

                        Good luck to you all!

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                          #57
                          T12 compression Fracture

                          I fell on the ice flat on my back about thirty years ago and suffered a compression fracture as well. Now I can not sleep for more then 2-3 hours in bed before the pain awakens me. If I sleep in a recliner it doesn't hurt. So to answer your question about later in life, I would do every thing possible now so you don't have the same problem I now have.

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                            #58
                            Compression Fracture T8 and T12

                            I have recent (DOI: 9 Nov 09) anterolat compression wedge fractures of T8 and T12 sustained following 2 metre fall at speed into bush from my mountain bike. I was airlifted from remote area to nearest hospital where inital X rays were clear. Luckily I was admitted over night for observation due to facial injuries and next morning after complaining of "clicking"noises in chest they did CT - showed multiple Rib and Thoracic vertebral fractures. I was discharged a week later with TSLO back brace. Wore this for 6 weeks and now I am trying to get used to going without it. Can do more with it on and only last about an hour up with out it due to pain. Not taking pain relief now but am waiting to see Spinal Specialist for second opinion as like others have voiced here it is not knowing what the future holds and if you will get better. My first surgeon was very casual and says yes I will get back running and biking but it is hard to see passed the pain and imobility that I have at present especially in view of my age (50 ish) and other stories that you hear. I didn't buy a horse (live on big farm great for horses!) cos didn't want to risk fall and injury - looks like mountain bikes are just as dangerous!

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                              #59
                              3) For the riders out there: what is the general opinion on protective vests? USEA requires them in cross country eventing, but USPC says it's up to the rider. I'm wondering if the vest would protect me from injuries like this in the future.
                              Although there is not 100% agreement on the subject, and hence the differing positions between USEA and USPC (I used to be on USPC's safety committee, and gathered data from all riding accidents nationwide as part of a study trying to discern this type of info, working in conjunction with the American Medical Equestrian Assoc, my NS was pres at the time, as well as chief medical officer for Rolex, still is), the general consensus among the medical community is that vests provide no protection against spinal or spinal cord injuries......... or little else, except perhaps minimal protection against soft tissue injury (i.e. bruises). Helmets, on the other hand, have been shown to provide a 50% reduction in the incidence of concussions and brain injuries. Any vest that was designed in such a way that it might afford protection would be too hindering in the rider's ability to move to make it practical to wear o a horse.

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                                #60
                                I suffered or was blessed, whichever way you look at it, with a T12 compression fracture when I was 19. I LIVED on the back of my horse. When my doc walked into the ER I asked him when I was going to ride again, and I was drugged up beyond all comprehension and all I could think about was riding my horse. I was thrown from a vehicle and walked 150 ft to the road, I was bent over backwards but hey I made it to the road so I could be found. I knew I could walk so I didn't care about anything else. My accident was in August of '01 and I was sitting (not riding) on my horse in October. I didn't feel totally comfortable to do any real riding until February and by May I was chasing cows again. I do have pain in the lower vertebrae but it is worse after riding. I usually take a pain med before I ride and I am fine.
                                I don't ride with a brace of jacket simply because it limits movement and if you have to be able to move with the horse. If you think about it the jacket (I think) isn't really going to do a lot to protect you if you fall beyond rib damage, because your lower back is still going to be able to move.
                                When I started PT I couldnt move my left leg out to the side. MY advise, stay in PT as long as you can and take advantage to work as hard as you can and not give up! PT is one of the toughest things to do in life but so worth it!
                                I have harrington rods in place so the hardware does cause some pain in the winter (conduction of metal and all). My doc keeps asking when I want them out, never is my answer but we'll see. I have had scar tissue build up over the bolts of the hardware and did have a pinched nerve under one of the bolts. Cortisone shots are wonderful! Back massages are great and help a lot! I hope this helps someone! Any questions just ask!
                                Last edited by Sreeser; 11 Feb 2009, 11:16 PM.

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