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    Has anyone tried the e-stim bike?

    I was looking around for the e-stim bike and I found one.I want to get it see how it works and if it does work.Has anyone tried these or owns one? have you gotten anything back in return or gotten a workout from it?
    God is good

    #2
    rollinprincess - Many of us here own stim bikes. I and a few others own Stimmasters. Several people own Ergys bikes. One guy has just purchased the new RT-300. Most posts about stim bikes are in the Exercise Forum but there are also several in the Equipment Forum.

    You can also do a search.

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      #3
      has anyone tried the e-stim bike

      rollinprincess3227 - As noted in the previous post, there are a few stationary ergometers or 'bikes' on the market. I am most familiar with the ERGYS2 which delivers electrical stimulus, by means of a computer, to the paralyzed muscles in a sequential manner. The person is able to cycle the ergometer using his or her own metabolism.

      The benefits are many and you do get a very good workout. The intent of the stationary ergometer is not to promote functional return or enable you to walk, but rather to keep the muscles active, with good muscle mass, and increase muscle strength. The use of the 'bike' contributes to improved cardiovascular function, improved circulation, improved immune system function, reduces the severity of spasticity and makes it more manageable and helps you build up your energy stores. Most of the people who use this feel good and find that their legs develop a more normal shape; sitting tolerance is improved and the risk of pressure sores is reduced. Ultimately, the use of this medically-approved device will keep you in good condition and contribute to your good health, both of which are very important for the potential outcomes of and possible candidates for SCI research.

      There are some insurances that will reimburse for this medically necessary device. CRF
      Last edited by SCI-Nurse; 6 Oct 2005, 10:32 PM. Reason: clarification and additional information
      The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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        #4
        Wow, CRF, thank you. That was a great post. So much info packed in there. Kind of like a mini-primer on FES. I'm going to utilize this post in the future.
        ~See you at the CareCure-used-to-be-paralyzed Reunion ~

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          #5
          has anyone tried the e-stim bike

          Jeff - Thanks, I am glad that the post is helpful and can help others. I have been involved with this technology for about 16 years. My former patients were healthy, felt good, never had pressure sores and were insistent that it be a part of their weekly routine. CRF
          The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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            #6
            CRF - I think FES is the most under utilized medical technology I can think of.

            When I first bought my stimmaster my Phys Med doctor was skeptical. His words, "If there was any benefit we'd be wiring everyone up." LOL.

            I forged on ahead. After 20 years of paralysis FES initially caused massive swelling in my legs. The same doc saw me for that.... sent me for a veinous doppler.... put me on Daypro for the swelling.... and finally concluded that more FES was the only way to go. If I had to guess I'd say he was using me for a clinical trial of his own with a sample of one at my expense. He said that he prescribes exercise for most problems like arthritis and that I should just keep exercising.

            Well..... for four years I continued off and on. Mostly on. If I stopped my FES longer than three weeks then starting up again would mean pain in my knees. Never failed. But I finally defeated this. I recently took a three week hiatus from FES, returned, and had no pain in my knees. I think I have rehabbed my knees and hips. I often pedal on the highest resistance setting without pain. I'd love to know my bone density. I think it's good because I keep falling horribly and never fracture anything.

            Anyway, turning 40 caused my abdomenal wall to relax which really changes my appearance. My posture needs a lot of work. But I'm convinced that FES is keeping me REALLY healthy for a 25yr quad in his 40's. There's just nothing like it.
            ~See you at the CareCure-used-to-be-paralyzed Reunion ~

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              #7
              has nayone tried the e-stim bike

              Jeff - thanks for sharing your long history with FES. My history with patients was only for about 10 -15, although I just spoke with a former patient, who is still using his and he is at the 20 year mark. Over the years, his health has remained very good. I am not a researcher, but the reported outcomes certainly point to benefits. In my years working with this technology, and as I have stayed in touch with the manufacturers of the ERGYS 2, there are not reported negative consequences. You could buy 5 stationary ergometers for the cost of one flap repair!!

              In the past, I have heard Dr. Barth Green, Miami Project, say in more than one lecture, that every quad should have the opportunity to use the FES ergometer.

              The other interesting information is that SCI researchers say that there are three important things that the person living with SCI should do:
              • Maintain a good nutritional intake
              • Stay as healthy as possible
              • Stay as physically active, as possible, within the limits of one's level of paralysis
              Using FES helps the person achieve all three of these important goals. CRF
              The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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                #8
                Would you recommend the so-called bikes to someone with hardly any sensation and movement?

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                  #9
                  We were told that quads with pacemakers were NOT good candidates for FES and that it was dangerous for them to try it.... anyone else experience the same warning?
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                    #10
                    yeah i was in a three month trial at shriners and it was in the paper work as well as the possibility of burns, pressure sores, and broken bones. of course, all of these are low risk to highly unlikely.
                    Never take life seriously, nobody gets out alive anyway

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                      #11
                      e-stim bike

                      hi Princess,

                      I have just recently started using the ERGYS2 at NextSteps in Chicago. NextSteps believes in very intensive therapy for spinal cord victims. After just being on it a couple of times the difference in muscle mass in my legs is remarkable. Before I get onto the LOCOMAT I do 5 miles on the bike to loosen up the legs and get rid of my spasticity. The electrical stimulation does wonders for my spasticity, they're nowhere to be found!!! Important: have a knowledgeable person/trainer when operating the bike. The ERGYS2 is quite pricey!

                      All the best...

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                        #12
                        Rt300-s

                        SCI-nurse or others,

                        I've heard a few things and read a couple posts about the new RT 300-S made by restorative therapies.

                        http://www.restorative-therapies.com/

                        How does this system differ from the ERGYS2 other than being powered for warmup and cool down? I'm considering buying an FES bike, but I'm worried that this technology is changing so much that these guys will have a new model out for half the price in another year. Anyway, I'm going to try to demo it at Craig hospital, but I'd like to hear what others know about it so far.

                        Thanks,

                        J.

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                          #13
                          I am going to post this in the Equipment Forum, you might get more responses there. (Or atleast I am going to try).
                          So look for answers there also.

                          CWO
                          The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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                            #14
                            still like to hear if anyone had any returns from e-stim bike. One of my fellow SCI patients at the in-patient rehab hospital who was 3 years post-injury related to me a scary experience.

                            He was a T6-para (motor complete/sensory incomplete). He thought he felt some movement in his legs and told me his therapists thought there might be traces. But as soon as he got on that bike, he never felt any movement ever again.

                            Anyone else have something like this happen. Any other negative effects other than the edema/swelling?
                            Daniel

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