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    #61
    The lowest possible rear seat height on an Aero T with 25" rear wheels will be dependent on your CG but can go as low as 14.5" - 15".
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      #62
      Chas got a lower rsh, but it was on an AeroZ1 and he cut the brackets to achieve it, if that would be possible with the AeroZ2 or AeroT I'm sure it would void warranty which I couldn't risk. I'm actually wondering if something could be cut to lower my rsh once the warranty is up and I have another chair. But I'm also afraid of ruining it where I'd have to replace the parts to have a backup chair, so dunno if I'll ever do anything.

      Tilite, so what would be the lowest rsh for 25 wheels, 3 inches cog, 2.5 inches dump, and 4 degrees camber? (camber changed from my previous suggested specs) And this may be a stupid question but my brain is fuzzy right now, does the lowest possible rsh increase or decrease with an increase (further forward) COG?
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      I am not paralyzed. I have a genetic connective tissue disorder with neuro complications and a movement disorder.

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        #63
        Originally posted by ~Lin View Post
        Chas got a lower rsh, but it was on an AeroZ1 and he cut the brackets to achieve it, if that would be possible with the AeroZ2 or AeroT I'm sure it would void warranty which I couldn't risk. I'm actually wondering if something could be cut to lower my rsh once the warranty is up and I have another chair. But I'm also afraid of ruining it where I'd have to replace the parts to have a backup chair, so dunno if I'll ever do anything.

        Tilite, so what would be the lowest rsh for 25 wheels, 3 inches cog, 2.5 inches dump, and 4 degrees camber? (camber changed from my previous suggested specs) And this may be a stupid question but my brain is fuzzy right now, does the lowest possible rsh increase or decrease with an increase (further forward) COG?
        On an Aero T with 25" rear wheels, 3" CG, 2.5" dump and 4* camber the lowest rear seat height would be 15".

        Regarding your question about the rsh increasing or decreasing as the cg moves forward. On the Aero T it doesn't matter. However, on the ZRA the seat height will decrease as the cog moves forward.
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          #64
          Thanks. Is what you said about the ZRA true of the AeroZ then as well? Which would mean the cog on the Aero T does not affect seat height, but the further forward the cog on the Aero Z the lower the possible seat height?

          Anything known about an adjustable-on-the-fly back hinge? I require some sort of adjustable on the fly back angle change. However the new roho agility back claims to allow back angle adjustment while sitting in the chair, so my thoughts were that may make a tilite chair meet my needs but I'll have to look into it deeper when deciding on my next chair.
          Board Member of Assistance Dog Advocacy Project working in Education. Feel free to ask me any service dog questions!

          I am not paralyzed. I have a genetic connective tissue disorder with neuro complications and a movement disorder.

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            #65
            Originally posted by ~Lin View Post
            Thanks. Is what you said about the ZRA true of the AeroZ then as well? Which would mean the cog on the Aero T does not affect seat height, but the further forward the cog on the Aero Z the lower the possible seat height?

            Anything known about an adjustable-on-the-fly back hinge? I require some sort of adjustable on the fly back angle change. However the new roho agility back claims to allow back angle adjustment while sitting in the chair, so my thoughts were that may make a tilite chair meet my needs but I'll have to look into it deeper when deciding on my next chair.
            Correct. What was said about the ZRA is true for the Aero Z.
            Correct. What was said about the CG on the Aero T not affecting the seat height.
            Correct. The further forward the CG on the Aero Z the lower the possible seat height.
            Not familiar enough with the adjustable on-the-fly back hinge to be able to advise.
            TiLite. The Ultimate Ride.

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              #66
              Lin The elevation chair is another one with on the fly adjustment http://www.pdgmobility.com/products/elevation/

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                #67
                Thanks, but I'm not interested in that chair because it doesn't meet all my needs and has things that I don't need/want, plus I don't think its covered by medicaid.
                Board Member of Assistance Dog Advocacy Project working in Education. Feel free to ask me any service dog questions!

                I am not paralyzed. I have a genetic connective tissue disorder with neuro complications and a movement disorder.

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                  #68
                  How do I replace a torsion spring for my scissor brake? I received a new one under warranty and my DME provider just mailed me the spring and a shipping list, nothing else. I guess I'm supposed to do it myself. Either way, I don't think I have the tools to take it apart.....

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by juniorsenior View Post
                    How do I replace a torsion spring for my scissor brake? I received a new one under warranty and my DME provider just mailed me the spring and a shipping list, nothing else. I guess I'm supposed to do it myself. Either way, I don't think I have the tools to take it apart.....
                    I have instructions on how to change the spring however, I'm having problems posting it to the thread. Can you PM me with your email address and I'll forward you the instructions. Also, your dealer will need to order you the scissorlock spring tool (HD100390). Since your scissorlock is under warrant, it should be a no charge item.
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                      #70
                      Hi TiLite, I am interested in purchasing a TR3, however, last Fall when my DME contacted TiLite about bringing a demo he was told that he must carry Permobil chairs at the same time. He was offended by this. Now that Permobil owns TiLite has that policy changed?

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by JMS View Post
                        Hi TiLite, I am interested in purchasing a TR3, however, last Fall when my DME contacted TiLite about bringing a demo he was told that he must carry Permobil chairs at the same time. He was offended by this. Now that Permobil owns TiLite has that policy changed?
                        Wow. That's a new one. Sorry to hear of the confusion. Where are you located? We can hook you up with a sales rep and get you going.
                        TiLite. The Ultimate Ride.

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                          #72
                          I sent you a PM. I truly hope that you can resolve this as I much prefer to get a TR3 than going with a different brand. For years I have read on CareCure about the quality of product and service from TiLite

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by TiLite View Post
                            For the TR, the rear seat height depends on seat slope, center of gravity, camber, rear wheel size, and rear frame type. Having a round rear frame allows greater flexibility with the manufacturability. On the ZRA, the RSH is limited by the same factors, except for the frame type (as there is only one), but also by the mounting hardware which cannot be changed. The best option would be to request a CAD drawing of the spec?d out chair, that way all factors can be accounted for, keeping in mind that the ZRA has much greater adjustability than the TR, but at the cost of rigidity. Hope this helps.

                            On your advice, have just tried this. The very brief response from TiLite to my local rep basically says "no way, no how", and includes a CAD drawn with the order form's stated minimum RSH. It doesn't appear that my particular requested specs have been taken into account when determining whether the requested low RSH could be achieved, and there is no guidance given as to whether any increase in dump and/or COG would make the requested RSH (or any RSH below the order form's stated minimum) possible. VERY disappointed to be told "we can sometimes do this" by multiple people who should know (you included), only to go through the process and get an answer that sounds awfully like "we can't ever do this, be satisfied with what the order form offers".


                            I have been saving for a long time to be able to get my dream chair, and now that I finally have the means I find I'll have to pause to consider whether that actually is a TiLite when another company has told me they can go below 14.5" with 25" wheels. :-(

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                              #74
                              I was seriously considering a tilite for my next chair, but due to the lack of low enough rsh as well as lack of adjustable on the fly back hinge (something I'd emailed with people from tilite about multiple times, being told someone in the correct department or who knew more would contact me back about if it was already on the list of things to work on or would be put on the list but never heard back) So when I meet with the OT on Aug 26th, I'm looking at the Icon. Maybe in 6 years there will be an adjustable on the fly back hinge by tilite (since other companies offer it) and lower rsh. It seems that the recent upgrades in models, resulted in raising the minimum rsh of the chairs such as Tr3 and I had really expected to get a lower rsh on the AeroT than was told is available.
                              Board Member of Assistance Dog Advocacy Project working in Education. Feel free to ask me any service dog questions!

                              I am not paralyzed. I have a genetic connective tissue disorder with neuro complications and a movement disorder.

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                                #75
                                Lin, different TiLite rigid chairs use different axle-mount hardware, which allows different minimum RSH's. The box-frame TR has unique hardware, as does the Mono ZR; box-frame adjustables (TRA and AeroT) have the same hardware as the Mono adjustable, but they have different minimum RSHs because of frame styles . . . Lots to keep track of.

                                For my first real chair, I chose TiLite after whittling manufacturer choices down to three of which only TiLite had the accessory/feature package that fit my needs - similar to your need for specifics. It seems every manufacturer has niche option(s).

                                Now that I've spent four years tweaking my AeroZ, I'm thankful (but still a bit nervous) to be able to soon change to a less adjustable model (hoping for a TR.) The ICON configurability would leave me less nervous, but it lacks several options I require. Every change/tweak I've made to my AeroZ has been made with a TR in mind I sure hope it works out; I've lost track of how many TR order forms I've filled out making sure everything coordinates.
                                Chas
                                TiLite TR3
                                Dual-Axle TR3 with RioMobility DragonFly
                                I am a person with mild/moderate hexaparesis (impaired movement in 4 limbs, head, & torso) caused by RRMS w/TM C7&T7 incomplete.

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