Can you really blame a Quad for committing Suicide?

[MagikLair]

Hello,
First, I have no intention of committing Suicide at this time. However, can you really blame a Quad for committing Suicide? Being a Quad is awfully cruel.
Any feedback would be appreciated.
Brian

[Steven Edwards]

I'd say yes, but it's up to each individual.

Keep making promises to yourself. "I'll give it six more months." Eventually, you'll be okay.

[Myc0]

I'd say yes, but it's up to each individual.

Keep making promises to yourself. "I'll give it six more months." Eventually, you'll be okay.

I did that, I said I'd give it a year and if things had not significantly improved I would call it quits. Well, I guess this is what I get for not keeping my promise.

[Steven Edwards]

You made the wrong promise.

"I'll give it a year and then see how it goes. If it's tolerable in the least and/or I have a reason for living at that time, I'll give it another year."

For what it's worth, I'm glad you didn't keep your promise.

[adi chicago]

life is life no matter what

i am sick a quad full of pain ,spasms ,uti s a person who lost everything ...job,money ,friends etc. i will never kill myself.all i need is to focus to stay alive until a real cure will help me and all thesci people who need to be cured.
be strong and never give up.
adi the dumber.

[Tiger Racing]

However, can you really blame a Quad for committing Suicide?

Nope, but then I wouldn't blame anyone who was in enough pain that they felt ending their life was the only solution.

C.

[Myc0]

You made the wrong promise.

"I'll give it a year and then see how it goes. If it's tolerable in the least and/or I have a reason for living at that time, I'll give it another year."

For what it's worth, I'm glad you didn't keep your promise.

Well I don't remember the specifics of it, but it was probably somewhere in-between what I wrote and what you did. Things have improved, but I still don't think it's to the level I was hoping for. I still don't think I've found any concrete reasons for dragging this out, but I suppose I haven't found any concrete reasons for ending it either. I'm still unsure if the hope I'm clinging to is a blessing or a curse, I guess what I make of my future will determine that. Well, the first half of this year was hellish and I still wish I hadn't stuck around for that, I doubt any kind of success will validate that nightmare. I still need to post a summary of that experience and get some legal advice about it. Ok, I'm getting into an off-topic ramble now, so I'll shut my pie-hole. But, for what it's worth, thanks.

[antiquity]

Actually, I believe paras are more likely to commit suicide than quads. I'm a 25+ post quad and have never wanted to kill myself because of it.

[Raven]

You made the wrong promise.

For what it's worth, I'm glad you didn't keep your promise.

I agree with Steven and am very glad you're still with us, MyCo. As we have spoken many times before, it is hard to live with SCI but there is so much more to be experienced in life other than the heartaches.

Brian, I believe many of us experience the frustration and desperation of not having the ability to move as before. Suicide, is possibly what many times we believe will end our pain but then there are so many things we would miss out by not being around. I know my life has been filled with so many good things too. Joy, happiness are things I would not have known if I had not gone on with life. My grand daughter has brighted up my days together with her dad, Nick. I would not judge the person who has committed suicide as bad, but I would feel sad to know that maybe he/she may have missed out on something good in their future life.

Life is hard whether SCI'ed or not but we need to hang on in there for the good stuff too.

Raven

[adi chicago]

belive me ....beeing in coma after my spinal cord surgery for two weeks i saw the devil and i saw jesus.i am not a liar.never ever kill yourself,wait for a cure,and be strong until the end.maybe you think ....adi is crazy.i am not.

[lynnifer]

There's a theory that para's are more isolated. Most do their own care ... so there are not PCA's or nurses around. If they can't afford a vehicle and don't have a job, I could see (and have seen) where they hardly go anywhere ... the job rate for those suffering paralysis is low to begin with.

As I get older and my shoulder goes, I get heavier (fat cow, shut up peanut gallery lol) and I run into more health issues (pressure sores, infections, metabolic disorders, endometriosis) ... I can easily see where someone would want to end it. It's like watching yourself slowly lose everything. It's like here ya go, you're independent you lucky dog ... then 25-30yrs down the line, psych - you can't get out of bed even!

Not saying that's the case with everyone ... but it's been mentioned before on CC.

[Juke_spin]

I did that, I said I'd give it a year and if things had not significantly improved I would call it quits. Well, I guess this is what I get for not keeping my promise.

Right!

And did I mention:

Well, I got bones beneath my skin, and mister,
There's a skeleton in every man's house.
Beneath the dust, and love, and sweat that hang on
everybody
There's a dead man tryin' to get out.
So please help me stay awake, I'm fallin'...

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.n...2568B10027BB7D


Steve

[Andy]

If it wasnt for what it would do to my dad I would have made a graceful exit long ago, as far as I'm concerned my life ended 4 years ago and this is some cruel joke. But this ray of sunshine para is not really the right person to talk to right now about this, YMMV.

[30something]

This will be my second post about a movie. Maybe I watch too many?? LOL

Anyway....over the past 17yrs, I've thought about suicide plenty. I don't think of it nearly as much now than when I was first injured.
A few times I had even planned it down to a "T". Then a quote from the 80's movie "Better Off Dead" with John Cusak comes to mind. He's depressed because his girlfriend broke up with him and he's about to hang himself. As he's about go through with it he reconsiders and says, "Wait a minute, this is Death here!"
I have felt that way. As bad as things can be here, death just seems scarier still.

[antiquity]

Actually, I believe paras are more likely to commit suicide than quads. I'm a 25+ post quad and have never wanted to kill myself because of it.

I am curious why you would think that. They times I have felt most like ending my life were as a result of the isolation that comes with being a quad - the isolation was caused by my complete lack of independance.

Think which one, that paras are more likely to commit suicide? That's true, not an opinion. There's a study somewhere, think it was posted here, to back that.

As for not wanting to die, been close too close to death too many times to ever embrace/view it as an appealing option. It scares the bejezus out of me.