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    how many quads out there drive and what is your functional (physical) level?
    I'm a c5 level, and i thought there wasn't any hope for me to terrorize the roads again, but I found some really interesting controls on the web. It looks like all of the driving can be done through joysticks and buttons. I still have to worry about my upper body muscle contractions (chest and arms), but my spirits are lifted just knowing there is a posibility.
    I already own a modified dodge g caravan, but right now I just ride along in the passenger area.

    thanks in advance!
    Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.

  • #2
    Hiyas! I'm a C5-6 quad and drive a mini-van from my wheelchair. I have nil trunk control and ok wrist movement. My biceps and shoulders are pretty strong though. Anywho, I drive using hand controls, zero effort steering, a chest strap, and side supports. The latter 2 were crucial in me mastering how to drive. Good luck!
    May the fetus you save be gay

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    • #3
      Hi I am a C6/7 incompelte I am functioning at about a T 3 level and am almost classfied as a para and not a quad and I drive using hand controls I transfer from my manual chair to the seat and take off. I taught myself how to drive with the hand controls as I live in a small town withh not much traffic. I passed my driving test the first time and now drive myself to and from work as well as therapy which is a 70 mile round trip. I have good arms and hands as well as biceps and shoulders. I first drove five months after my injury and have been going strong ever sense good luck

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      • #4
        Theophania what kind of hand controls do you use? Are they electronic?

        Slomoscott-are the driving controls your looking at the EMC controls? I have been looking at these controls for about a year now and probably after this semester I will travel to Seattle to test them out. I have a VMI caravan already and the estimated cost I've gotten for these controls is $33,000 [img]/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif[/img]

        I'm a C-5/6 quad

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        • #5
          I'm also c5/6 and i don't need electronic controls. I got them done at the rehab engineering place near the rehab hospital i was at (winnipeg). They get you in there and customize everything so it works for you. Cost around $1000 CND.

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          • #6
            My hand controls are not electronic; at least I don't think so. My gas/brake control is powered by an "air system." There's an electric motor behind the back seat in my mini-van than puts air in the tubing connected to my controls. So the air in the tubing is what causes the hand controls to work. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

            I also have what's called a tri-pin, which is this thingy on my steering wheel that allows my paralyzed hand to hold the wheel. I also have this elbow touch-pad (electronic), that's installed on the inside of the driver's door (to my left), that I hit with my elbow while I'm driving to control the blinkers, lights, cruise, wipers, and wash. I drive a super ugly '93 Plymouth Voyager that has wood paneling! [img]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]

            At least is has a Vantage ramp system.
            May the fetus you save be gay

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            • #7
              Just a funny....I was driving a coupla nites ago with my BF squeezed into my baby truck when he said 'Let me steer' So, I'm working the brake, gas, clutch, sitting on one hand so I wouldnt grab the wheel LOL. He starts out kinda wobbly, steering from the passenger seat, then I hear him mutter to himself "It's just a video game" and it was a breeze after that. (OK, I did grab the wheel once, going around a curve, parked cars on one side and oncoming traffic in the other lane....how would I ever have explained that one to the insurance company?)

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              • #8
                MT_cowboyquad
                yes, it was the EMC controls that got me jazzed up about driving again. Like you I saw the VERY high price, that's wjhy I started this thread. I was hoping to get some cheaper solutions for someone w/o wrist (c6) control. I should be able to get DVR to pay for some of my bill because I'm working 30 hrs/week.

                If you are a c5/6, why do you think you need the joystick drive?

                Theophania
                What is zero effort steering?
                how does it work?

                Thanks to everyone else, keep posting!
                Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.

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                • #9
                  SlomoScott,

                  Zero effort steering is when they make the wheel very easy to steer. Like so easy, if the windblows on it, it could turn the wheel itself. It makes it very easy for C5-6 quads to steer who have weaker arms due to our paralyzed triceps. I live in Minnesota and we had to ship out the steering wheel to a company in NYC to get this done. Its VERY worth it though [img]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/img] Makes steering a breeze...
                  May the fetus you save be gay

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SlomoScott:

                    If you are a c5/6, why do you think you need the joystick drive?
                    Who is this addressed to? Me?

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                    • #11
                      I am a c5 with no wrist control at all,I use gloves that were ment for rollerblading and modified to fit a pin on the steering wheel and one for EGB gas/brake. e-mail me I'll send ya some pic's Hawk@gen6.net

                      BTW DVR paid for all but the Van cause I work too.

                      "Yesterday's History,Tomorrow's a Mystery"
                      "Yesterday's History,Tomorrow's a Mystery"

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                      • #12
                        hi slomo

                        i am c5/6 here is my van & driving mods

                        http://carecure.org/forum/showthread.php?t=29045

                        good luck driving again [img]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]

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                        • #13
                          these pics are not coming thru for me, I'll post them when I get back to my home computer sorry. [img]/forum/images/smilies/frown.gif[/img]

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                          • #14
                            Liz, I saved a picture of your driving controls from when you posted it months ago. It has helped me a lot to have it to explain when talking to people about being able to drive. So far, I have not finished my driving evaluation yet because I will need to get a new van first and I have not figured out what to get yet. By the way, they're telling me the controls would be $70,000 for lifts, remotes and everything .

                            Anyway, hope you don't mind that I post the picture. If so, let me know.

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                            • #15
                              Ok, thanks Carl. I labeled that picture to "understand" where stuff was.
                              Will you have "help" with paying for the mods? Why do you have to buy the van first, before getting an evaluation? My counselor tried to tell me that and I ended up taking her to Client Legal Services to "pat" her hand, and tell her my rights. Once you get the "evaluation" it helps to know exactly what WILL be right for you, not only hand controls but vehicle type. Even mini-vans are different in depth, width, ect. For example; Chevy Venture and Ford Windstar floors are lowered 12" instead of 10" like the Dodge Grand Caravan.

                              I had help from bvr except for cost of van plus 10K in mods I paid for. However, modifications above the cost of van are tax deductible, fyi. Getting Bvr (DVR, WHOMEVER)to help takes planning as their restrictions are getting much tighter than they "used" to be, imo. I researched my rights and vans, etc for about two years prior to implementing the process. Let's just say I was bound and determined to drive. Same with other quads, I love to see us driving!! [img]/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] It turned out, my counselor had never done anything like this before. Can you believe she said all I needed was a "spinner knob"? Funny. [img]/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

                              Of course, the value of the "modification" according to bvr is going to be higher as the modification places make a lot of markup so they can make bo-ku bucks off our state tax dollars.
                              So, in essence if you go into a modification place privately to build your driving system the price would be lower probably. Seriously, I wouldn't dress up to meet with them, or act like you have cash. Its the whole concept that as disabled people we can be very easily taken advantage of. (kinda like the doc visit concept, or buying a car) Being a woman, nontheless in a wheelchair, is even worse!

                              There is another person where I work who I believe is a quad and she just got driving mods built on her 02 entervan. If she'll let me, maybe I could take a picture and post it. Hers does not appear too of complex system. Also, Andrea once posted pics of her new van & mods. I think its good to see different ones.

                              I have heard about the joystick driving controls that control most all functions. Pretty cool. I've also saw a headrest that has buttons on it to push with your head.

                              Also, I met a guy (prolly c4-5) that has an electronic chip shaped to inside his mouth. He can control his wheelchair by moving his tongue a certain way on it. Also he said it controlled things at home in his house.

                              So, keep searching and hopefully find all the latest resources/technology available to suit you right. Good luck. the internet is the best place to find latest!

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