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    How many of you would freeze yourselves?

    If we had mature, inexpensive cryotechnology that could put you in a deep freeze until the cure, how many of you would do it?

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    Not me, I'm having too much fun the way I am
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    Not me, I don't want to come back and have everyone be old and the world gone to hell
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    Yes, but just for five years
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    Yes, but only ten years or until a definite cure is available
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    Yes, freeze me for as long as it takes!
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    #2
    Forty-seven views ...

    but only six votes. I wonder why people take the time to read a poll but don't vote. No wonder we're still in these chairs!!!

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      #3
      You're choices didn't include mine: If we had the technology to freeze someone and revive them later, we'd have a cure for SCI. [img]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]

      ~Rus

      "Because you're not promised tomorrow." ~ Stuck Mojo

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        #4
        I don't think cryotechnology is as sophisticated as the SCI cure

        They've successfully revived a dog after seventy-two hours in the deep freeze. The show I watched said the dog appeared normal but because it doesn't speak they couldn't know for sure. Plus, it's a purely hypothetical poll designed to gauge our interest in a cure vs. continuing our current lives the way they are. Takes a little imagination, I guess.

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          #5
          It would piss me off if I was frozen for 5-10 years and then get thawed and still nothing's changed regarding the "cure." I would rather be awake, looking toward the future.

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            #6
            70 % water

            Greetings

            I haven't seen the article about the dog, but I was led to believe this is impossible because our body (including our cells) is mostly water and freezing expands the cells, rupturing the membrane, thus destroying/killing all cells. I could be wrong.
            Dr. Young will most likely know the correct answer.

            Thanks, Paul

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              #7
              Paulsaks, cryotechnology has overcome some of the problems that you mention. You have to put in a form of anti-freeze to keep down ice crystal formation. The main problems are still:

              1. they still have not been able to completely eliminate all forms of damage, particularly to the brain.

              2. freeze storage of tissues does not eliminate all possibility of damage to the DNA. This is one of the reasons why even frozen cells or embryos do not really last much longer than a few years without damage.

              3. the thawing procedure is quite complicated.

              Wise.

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                #8
                Just microwave on low for 5-6 minutes

                Originally posted by Wise Young:

                3. the thawing procedure is quite complicated.

                Wise.
                Doctor Young has quite a way with understatement. Saying that the thawing procedure is complicated is rather like saying that falling off a cliff is a great experience, except for the little problem of the sudden deceleration at the end. - Joe

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                  #9
                  I HAVE FOUR CHILDREN, I LOVE THEM TO MUCH TO VOLUNTERRILY GOINTO A FREEZE. I AM NOT HAVING A BLAST THE "WAY I AM", BUT TO BE AWAY FROM THE KIDS AND MY HUSBAND WOULD BE TERRIBLE. YES, I AM AMBULATORY INCOMPLETE AND COMPARED TO MANY HERE MY LIFE IS A PICNIC, BUT NOT AS IT ONCE WAS. I SPENT YEARS IN A CHAIR AND AM USING ONE THESE DAYS BECAUSE OF SURGERY. STILL, I WOULDN'T WANT TO MISS A DAY AWAY FROM MY FAMILY.
                  SO JEFF, NO VOTE FROM ME, JUST A LONG WINDED ANSWER. BTW, WHEN YOU AND YOUR BRIDE HAVE KIDS, I WAGER THAT YOU WOULD MAKE THE SAME CHOICE!!!
                  Every day I wake up is a good one

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                    #10
                    Cheesecake - I believe the best answer for you would be #2. Designing a poll actually takes more time and thought than I had to put into this one. Missing loved ones is, I'm sure, the #1 reason not to consider a freeze. My wife is younger than me and we don't have kids, yet it still would be a really hard decision for me. Plus, life-extending technology might one day be another way to beat the long wait for a cure and get something out of life on our feet instead of from a chair.

                    But, this was a hypothetical poll imperfect in its choices and only designed for a rough estimation of how people feel. I'll mark you down for #2, lol.

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                      #11
                      I voted #2. Unless you froze everyone I loved, I wouldn't want to come back.
                      I'm lonely enough now!

                      [img]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/img] A

                      If you asked me what I came into this world to do, I will tell you: I came to live out loud --Emile Zola--

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                        #12
                        Jeff

                        Jeff, I agree, #2 is a good choice for me. While the poll may not be perfect, I admire your creativity and inginuity. I found it thought provoking......as much as I would love to have additional function, I am with Andrea, don't want to leave behind my loved ones.
                        Every day I wake up is a good one

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Jeff:

                          They've successfully revived a dog after seventy-two hours in the deep freeze.
                          But, Jeff, the cells begin being damaged right away as the water inside each crystalizes. Keeping this from happening is a serious hurdle. I doubt this dog had no brain damage from 72 hours in a deep freeze. Where'd you see this anyway? I'd like to check it out.

                          Besides, I've got plenty of imagination. I just get tired of 'imagining' fantasies. At any rate, I voted #2.

                          ~Rus

                          "Because you're not promised tomorrow." ~ Stuck Mojo

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                            #14
                            I saw it on TV

                            It had to be real because they showed the dog walking around afterwards. It was a German Shephard and I remember seeing it wet and shaking the water off. I think it was about two years ago and I can't remember the name of the show. I'll try to look it up sometime when I get a few minutes or you could try too if you like.

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                              #15
                              I couldn't find the results I saw on TV

                              This site has everything imaginable about cryonics.

                              http://www.benbest.com/cryonics/cryiss.html#anchor3

                              Here's a few quotes:

                              Cryoprotectants used in cryonic freezing reduce damage, but do not eliminate it. Progress continues to be made in the reduction of damage, but damage still occurs. The crucial question is: does freezing damage destroy beyond all repair the biological basis of human consciousness and identity? No one can answer this question with certainty until science discovers the physical basis of consciousness and identity in the brain. Cryonicists are hoping that all damage is reparable with nanotechnology and that research on vitrification will soon eliminate freezing. (See Vitrification in Cryonics )

                              A cryoprotectant can make water harden like glass -- with no crystal formation -- a process called vitrification. Freezing-damage to cells is due to the formation of ice-crystals.

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