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    What do BMW drivers and Prius drivers have in common?

    I can understand why someone would think that BMW drivers are aggressive. The way BMW sports cars are geared, it's over the top for the street IMO. You have to go out of your way to tame the car. Seems like a nice problem to have. But why have something that you don't use?

    What does Prius have in common with BMW? I guess it's their acceleration. Electric cars have so much torque that they have to dampen their acceleration profile just to prevent snapping your neck backward. I wish BMW would add a slow mode to their transmission. That way, you can drive them like a normal car.


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    Torque can make your car "feel" faster than it actually is. Thats whats great about electric cars though, instant power and torque on demand. If i was able bodied I would always have a manual transmission sports car till the day I died ! Miss it soooo much.

    Im excited about the future electric cars though. Just don't want a Tesla to randomly catch on fire while I'm in it, like one did recently in LA.

    That jaguar i pace looks pretty cool I think, but that Porsche emission is jaw dropping.

    Im a BMW nut by the way, but I love all cars, especially the ones tailored to driving enthusiast. Beautiful day with a winding road in a manual sports car - heaven !

    i don't know the ///M models have a comfort mode or eco, but my 2 series does. I always have it in sport though.
    Canadian bacon is a fraud !!!!

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      #3
      Common? Well, they love the left lane.

      Prius is usually a taxi or a privately owned one sitting there oblivious that they are blocking traffic. Or more likely doing some passive-aggressive thing so we can join in with them to save the planet by creeping along.

      BMW...don't get me started. But I will give one example...They are too important to notice the car barreling down the left lane at 110, and they NEED to get around the guy they were just tailgating, so BMW changes lanes NOW:

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        #4
        I don't know if this is a universal problem, but it certainly is in my neck of the woods. At least they are doing something about it...
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          #5
          If the conclusion is based on a scientific study then they should present the science. Otherwise, why should we believe it's anything more than confirmation bias? I remember when I was a poor kid, I disliked fancy cars (and their owners) because I saw them as showing off. If I saw an old beat up car speeding, I'd move on and not think twice about it. But if I saw someone in a new BMW speeding, I saw an arrogant, entitled, rich prick showing off. Now I realize that was just my own personal problem. Having said that, you can do more harm with a gun than a stick and you can drive more aggressively with a sports car than an old beater. Sure, sometimes the driver is a jerk. But other times, maybe it's just a hot car.

          Isn't politics the same way? Some topics are so hot that just touching them can make you appear to be a jerk. Sure, sometimes the messenger is being a jerk. But other times, maybe it's just a hot topic.

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            #6
            In a couple years it’ll be about time for me to get a new car. I live right down the road from where they assemble the BMWs and a two door four series seems like a fun option, but then I’d have to accept the fact that I’ve become a douchebag, and that’s a little too much for me to face at the moment, so I might have to go with an E class Mercedes.

            what most recently pushed me over the edge is seeing a ten year old five series parked diagonally across two lanes in the overcrowded parking garage of my apartment building on a day when they had one of the floors and subsequently the disabled spots closed for some sort of maintenance. That was just two days ago.

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              #7
              Hey this belongs in that BORING thread in members only. GEEEZ you guys sometimes

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                #8
                Originally posted by Andy View Post
                Common? Well, they love the left lane.

                Prius is usually a taxi or a privately owned one sitting there oblivious that they are blocking traffic. Or more likely doing some passive-aggressive thing so we can join in with them to save the planet by creeping along.

                BMW...don't get me started. But I will give one example...They are too important to notice the car barreling down the left lane at 110, and they NEED to get around the guy they were just tailgating, so BMW changes lanes NOW:

                Maybe the guy doing 110 shouldn't be, you know, going 110.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by funklab View Post
                  In a couple years it?ll be about time for me to get a new car. I live right down the road from where they assemble the BMWs and a two door four series seems like a fun option, but then I?d have to accept the fact that I?ve become a douchebag, and that?s a little too much for me to face at the moment, so I might have to go with an E class Mercedes.

                  what most recently pushed me over the edge is seeing a ten year old five series parked diagonally across two lanes in the overcrowded parking garage of my apartment building on a day when they had one of the floors and subsequently the disabled spots closed for some sort of maintenance. That was just two days ago.
                  Haha, did it have 26" rims and every malfunction light illuminated on the dashboard? I must confess, I was shopping BMW 3/4 series coupes also. Then I realized the marketing scheme where if you want a car equipped like a Honda Accord, you have to spend roughly over 50% of the base price to get it optioned like a generic-mobile. Couple that with questionable reliability and you need to wonder about that choice in vehicle. And yeah, there is the douchebag factor also, lol

                  Originally posted by Crappler View Post
                  Maybe the guy doing 110 shouldn't be, you know, going 110.
                  Nahhhh. That was a Dodge driver, and that group of drivers are known for their extraordinary skill and etiquette on the roadway, making such actions just dandy!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by funklab View Post
                    A two door four series [BMW] seems like a fun option, but then I’d have to accept the fact that I’ve become a douchebag, and that’s a little too much for me to face at the moment, so I might have to go with an E class Mercedes.
                    If you're into such cliches then the MB says stuffy douche. While, we're at it, truck says redneck, and van says sex creep. Don't do that to yourself. Drive what you like.

                    Originally posted by funklab View Post
                    In a couple years it’ll be about time for me to get a new car. I live right down the road from where they assemble the BMWs and a two door four series seems like a fun option, but then I’d have to accept the fact that I’ve become a douchebag, and that’s a little too much for me to face at the moment, so I might have to go with an E class Mercedes.

                    what most recently pushed me over the edge is seeing a ten year old five series parked diagonally across two lanes in the overcrowded parking garage of my apartment building on a day when they had one of the floors and subsequently the disabled spots closed for some sort of maintenance. That was just two days ago.
                    Exactly my point. I've parked my BMW like that because there was no other way to guarantee I had room to open my door. If it was a van with HP plates parked like that, you'd be like, "Oh, ok. The guy's got a reason" But a BMW and it's like "What an ass."

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                      #11
                      I had a co-worker who has a lotus and it was in another state at the time. We started talking about cars and he mentioned he had one and my eyes lit up(I wanna drive it !) because I knew which car he was talking about. He eventually brought it over and his wife was scorning him for taking it to work "your showing off.....blah blah blah". He told me that and I'm like "what? - no, that's a super fun car to drive who cares what people think". Most guys are into cars, but much fewer are driving enthusiast. That's why he was surprised that I knew what the car was. Needless to say it was a riot to drive !

                      See, I've always been a car person and when I was a kid I loved classic cars and muscle cars and hated "imports", other than German cars, which were actually my favorite cars since I can remember. It wasn't till high school that I meet some friends that were into "imports" and I started watching this show called best motoring and they would get very technical with FWD, AWD,RWD, front engine, mid-engine rear-engine, with the pros and cons of each and would test new sports cars around tsukuba circuit in japan with pro drivers and this super winding road called the touge. It was that show that opened my eyes to me seeing that being a "driving enthusiast" was one notch above being a "car enthusiast. Because at the end of the day no matter how cool the car looks - how does it drive ? So for me handling trumped even how much HP a car has. Its easier to add power than it is to drop weight and mass of the car. However some cars that are a little heavy can still handle good, just depends on the engineering.

                      I had an s2000 which I absolutely loved, the only upgrade from that handling wise stock under 100k, would of been a Porsche cayman, lotus or alfa Romeo 4c. Its funny because I drove a Nissan GTR and that car was AMAZING, I got back into my s2k and it felt so slow, but that go-kart handling - it actually made me feel more content driving my car ironically.

                      I have the N?rburgring(12+ miles) memorized because I've driven on it so much in forza 7, lol.
                      makes me sad thinking about it though, It was on my bucket list.
                      Canadian bacon is a fraud !!!!

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                        #12
                        We are in glorious times now, where you can get almost 500hp for under 50K from so many vehicle makers.

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                          #13
                          My first, a Bugeye Sprite, hooked me!

                          And British sports cars became an addiction


                          When I got paralyzed I had a restored/modified/fast 67 Sprite, a TR8 (restored) a Bugeye project and a 65 Lotus Super Seven 1500 as well as a Volvo 142E ITB race car and an all original 66 Ducati 240 Mack 1

                          I'd driven the original 64? Honda S600 and the S2000 was definitely on my menu!

                          The picture is my Lotus at the Lane Motor Museum. Jeff Lane has long been a friend, and when I got hurt he bought all four cars from me in 96.
                          They are among there most pedestrian vehicles in his collection www.lanemotormuseum.com

                          Also a photo of my Bugeye when the museum began restoration of it with it's Derrington fiberglass nose.
                          Why they want to post rotated I can't answer-these are files Jeff sent

                          PS: if you like unique cars, by all means spend a day at the museum. Virtually everything displayed is a driver-no trailer queens here!
                          A week before I wrote off my hand-controlled ITB Golf GTI at Atlanta, I was at Watkins Glenn with my daughter Liz, getting her racing license with EMRA. Both daughters (twins) are crazy about my kind of cars. They have contacted Jeff and will arrive at Nashville sometime soon to hammer on my old anvils. Another wealthy Nashville guy has a road circuit around his property.

                          Went to the museum site and found my beloved hotrod next to my TR8:austin-healey-sprite-1967


                          Bittersweet memories for what was or would be! We all have too many.
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by August West View Post
                            If you're into such cliches then the MB says stuffy douche. While, we're at it, truck says redneck, and van says sex creep. Don't do that to yourself. Drive what you like.

                            Exactly my point. I've parked my BMW like that because there was no other way to guarantee I had room to open my door. If it was a van with HP plates parked like that, you'd be like, "Oh, ok. The guy's got a reason" But a BMW and it's like "What an ass."
                            Youre absolutely right, if it was a van I?d give you the benefit of the doubt. I?d assume you must have a lift or a ramp. But I could have used EITHER of those spaces to load and unload my wheelchair (4 feet between space and walk on one side, and another three foot area hashmarked and protected on the far side of the other space because of a support pillar). If I had room to get out of my two door Honda he had plenty of room to do whatever he needed to in his four door sedan.

                            I guess I?ll have to eat my works if he has some crazy contraption where a mechanical arm unfolds from the trunk and swings around to the drivers side and requires eight feet of clearance, but this dude definitely did not have a ramp or a lift.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by funklab View Post
                              my two door Honda .
                              Which one you have?

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