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    blue parking placard :- For folks with mental health conditions ?!?!?!?


    Autism sufferers will be given Blue Badges providing free parking to drivers with 'invisible' disabilities
    Department for Transport plans will help those with mental health conditions
    People with 'invisible' disabilities such as dementia and autism to get badges
    It is hoped the proposals will enable more people to travel independently
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ue-Badges.html

    #2
    This very well may be a hidden disability

    Conversion Disorder
    Conversion disorder is a broad term for when mental or emotional distress causes physical symptoms without the existence of an actual physical condition.
    When you have conversion disorder, you’re not able to control your physical response. This response usually involves either your senses or your motor control. In other words, you experience a traumatic or stressful event, and your body responds with tremors, paralysis of an arm or leg, or something similar. There isn’t an underlying physical condition, like an injury, causing the tremors or paralysis. Instead, the physical condition is caused by the stress or emotional trauma.


    https://www.healthline.com/health/conversion-disorder

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      #3
      Originally posted by gjnl View Post
      This very well may be a hidden disability

      Conversion Disorder
      Conversion disorder is a broad term for when mental or emotional distress causes physical symptoms without the existence of an actual physical condition.
      When you have conversion disorder, you?re not able to control your physical response. This response usually involves either your senses or your motor control. In other words, you experience a traumatic or stressful event, and your body responds with tremors, paralysis of an arm or leg, or something similar. There isn?t an underlying physical condition, like an injury, causing the tremors or paralysis. Instead, the physical condition is caused by the stress or emotional trauma.


      https://www.healthline.com/health/conversion-disorder
      I love conversion disorder so much, it's friggin fascinating. It's almost always neurologic conditions like paralysis or blindness, but their nerves work. Someone who has conversion disorder which causes them blindness legitimately believes they cannot see anything, yet their eyes, optic nerves, brain and all the connections still work and will involuntarily track a striped piece of cloth moved in front of their eyes.

      The best treatment we've come up with so far is to treat it like it's an actual injury ie if you have paralysis of your left leg due to conversion disorder you get sent to physical therapy and eventually your leg will get better (though it's often a slow process).

      The mind is an amazing thing.

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        #4
        Originally posted by gjnl View Post
        Conversion Disorder
        Holy cow...I think you found the cure! It's really all in our heads! lol

        Boy do I wish.

        But back to topic, it is the UK. Liberalism at its finest. May as well just make every parking space a 'blue' space then

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            #6
            Fer real tho, I'm a firm proponent of hashmarked spaces to open my door waaaaaaaay in the back of the parking lot. Someone with dementia or autism who's being taken to Target by their caregiver definitely needs the space close to the door way more than I do... and I'm not sure which of you cripples needs to be right up front either?

            If you really need that space right next to the entrance, maybe you need a power chair (okay that was a bit harsh, I'm sure I can envision some situations in which you would benefit from a manual chair, but have jacked up shoulders, but let's be honest, for the most part, most of us wheelchair users can get by without being right up front in the parking lot).

            I certainly wouldn't want to wrangle my demented grandmother or my 250 pound autistic nephew any further than absolutely necessary.

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              #7
              But funklab, I have seen way too many people in wheelchairs (both power and manual) hit by careless drivers when pushing across a parking lot. This is one of the reasons that the handicapped spaces are supposed to be closest to the entrance, not just because they assure a shorter distance to get into the store or restaurant.

              (KLD)
              The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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                #8
                the whole justification for the ADA disabled placard spaces was for wheels chairs and to get them out of the way of traffic in parking lots.
                The thinking was as we were so low down and not as maneuverable we were more prone to be struck by cars.
                There is nothing that says the space must be close to the doors of the stores. Just how many spaces there has to be depending on the size of the lot etc.
                It just turned out it was more convenient for the stores to put them close as they don't have to make a path that is safe for wheel chairs. Thereby wasting real estate. You can't be seen to encourage wheelchairs to wheel through the parking lot where the cars drive.
                In a perfect world all the ADA spots would be at the back of a lot, with a path to the door... that way the only folks coveting them would be the wheelchair folks that need the space.


                "We WAS ROBBED!"

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by NW-Will View Post
                  There is nothing that says the space must be close to the doors of the stores. Just how many spaces there has to be depending on the size of the lot etc.
                  Actually, that is not correct. Here is a summary of the requirements for location of the accessible parking spaces (from the ADA website): https://www.ada.gov/restriping_parki...iping2015.html

                  Location

                  Accessible parking spaces must be located on the shortest accessible route of travel to an accessible facility entrance. Where buildings have multiple accessible entrances with adjacent parking, the accessible parking spaces must be dispersed and located closest to the accessible entrances.


                  When accessible parking spaces are added in an existing parking lot or structure, locate the spaces on the most level ground close to the accessible entrance. An accessible route must always be provided from the accessible parking to the accessible entrance. An accessible route never has curbs or stairs, must be at least 3 feet wide, and has a firm, stable, slip-resistant surface. The slope along the accessible route should not be greater than 1:12 in the direction of travel.


                  Accessible parking spaces may be clustered in one or more facilities if equivalent or greater accessibility is provided in terms of distance from the accessible entrance, parking fees, and convenience. Van-accessible parking spaces located in parking garages may be clustered on one floor (to accommodate the 98-inch minimum vertical height requirement).


                  (KLD)
                  The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by SCI-Nurse View Post
                    But funklab, I have seen way too many people in wheelchairs (both power and manual) hit by careless drivers when pushing across a parking lot.
                    (KLD)
                    Yeah, but how many of them really got hurt?

                    Even irresponsible people in a parking lot are going like 10 miles an hour... I can take a sedan to the side at 10 mph. I might not be walking (or even rolling) away from it, but it won't cause any permanent damage (and their car insurance company will probably get me a new wheelchair waaaay faster than my incompetent DME).

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                      #11
                      I have suggested many, many, many times to various government offices that parking spots and placards should be color coded, not all blue. There are way too many placards being issued to and abused by folks that only needed them temporarily, family members, etc.

                      This way wider stalls could be marked green for folks that use chairs and need wider spots, blue could be for folks with hidden disabilities or mental/cognitive/behavioral disabilities that need to be closer to the entrance but can exit the vehicle normally. Something like that?

                      When someone violates this parking system, fines should be substantial ($1000-2500) and enforced with vigor, the additional parking enforcement officers will easily make a months wages and cover the employers burden in a day or two and everything else could be a cash supplement for municipalities.

                      The general population (not all of course) of sheeple will not pay attention to things that are rarely enforced and that lack any consistent repercussion....

                      I have parked at the back of the parking lot against a curb so I could get out/in my car without being boxed in by someone parking over top the yellow lines or an 85 year old with a placard that has no depth perception and suffers from dementia. When you ask them to move over they shout obscenities at you. Although, to be honest, I am somewhat amused and/or entertained by these types of situations they are a pain in the arse so I agree that folks with mental disabilities should be able to obtain a placard, I just don't think they should be permitted to occupy the wide stalls we folks that require mobility devices need. I am on the same page as Funk, I don't care if the wider/larger stalls are further away, I just want to be able to get into and out of my vehicle, period.

                      Most lots could be easily redesigned to accommodate some larger stalls with a means of safe(ish) passage by adding an additional curb cut at another area of the sidewalk and designating that area for pedestrian crossing and having it so that visibility is maximized instead of us having to roll out from behind some 4x4 with a lift kit and 35" rubber that is in the accessible stall beside me? Apparently being a redneck is a good reason to have a blue placard now too? (I know that opens up so many jokes)

                      I have actually taken a side impact from a pickup truck that through me a bit and bent my rims but did not damage the chair frame (yay tilite) other than a few scratches and it is completely due to driver error and road conditions (super icy). This happened even though I was parked in the closest disabled stall to the entrance at the grocery store, so being close does not ensure safety any more or any less than being far away. Property owners need to understand and exercise universal design principles, the general public (including us wheelers!) should have situational awareness and exercise caution to ensure the safety of themselves and others.

                      Other than bowel and bladder issues, access to facilities and parking are the next biggest piss offs I have with being gimpy.

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                        #12
                        Thank you SCI Nurse.
                        How much more wet do I have to get before I get out from rain while others just run?
                        It's why I am nearly homebound in winters.

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                          #13
                          How about 2 different placards...
                          One with the wheel chair... for wheelchair users...

                          and then (just an idea) one with a people who have difficulty walking, so they need to be close but don't require the space etc..
                          like this..
                          Attached Files

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                            #14
                            Australia talked about that but not sure they ever followed through. Wish they would do this in Canada.
                            Roses are red. Tacos are enjoyable. Don't blame immigrants, because you're unemployable.

                            T-11 Flaccid Paraplegic due to TM July 1985 @ age 12

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                              #15
                              Close to the door is critical for those of us living in northern climates, pushing in snow can be difficult depending on how well the lot has been cleaned. You also run the risk of getting stuck in ice or snow. Heck even with parking at the front I've run into difficulties just trying to the ramp or curb cut. Thankfully I'm now out of snowy territory for the most part.

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