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    Any ideas on finding a very smooth way to say "leave me alone and never say another word and I could be miraculously cured if I believed in Jesus". I've tried a variety of different kind responses ? but some people are like door-to-door salesman that just won't go away. I need the assistance but not the preaching.

  • #2
    how about "Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here."

    I can't take credit for that, Jack Nicholson said that in As Good as it gets. I think it's perfect.
    Rollin' since '89. Complete C8

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    • #3
      Are you talking about caregivers?
      Tom

      "Blessed are the pessimists, for they hath made backups." Exasperated 20:12

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      • #4
        "Your God is supposed to be an all knowing, all loving God. If he was all knowing, he knew I would be injured and allowed it to happen. He is supposed to be all loving; how is he all loving and allowing this to happen to me and others?"

        "Your Jesus, had three days of torture and took the easy way out; the same Savior is making me spend a lifetime of torment with a ticket to Hell if I decide to end it myself. Talk to me when your Jesus spends more than three days in pain."

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        • #5
          I invite those people to my church. i tell them I will even come pick them up and take them. Not one has taken me up on it and I never see them again.

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          • #6
            Tell them that you have already prayed that they will leave you alone. That prayer has still not been answered, hence it seems very unlikely that God would intervene over something more complex, like SCI.

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            • #7
              Some good answers here. I need the personal care, but the my God is better than your idea of God is so self righteous. The hard part for me is that she is kind yet ignorant of the fact that proletyzing is harmful. I may resort to harsh words; there may be no other way.
              Why must every religion need to tell others they are wrong and going to hell unless saved by choosing the right spiritual sports team?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Patrick Madsen View Post
                "Your God is supposed to be an all knowing, all loving God. If he was all knowing, he knew I would be injured and allowed it to happen. He is supposed to be all loving; how is he all loving and allowing this to happen to me and others?"

                "Your Jesus, had three days of torture and took the easy way out; the same Savior is making me spend a lifetime of torment with a ticket to Hell if I decide to end it myself. Talk to me when your Jesus spends more than three days in pain."
                Nailed it with logic. Logic is unfortunately devoid in this lady.

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                • #9
                  Just roll your eyes and go away .. no getting through to these people.
                  Roses are red. Tacos are enjoyable. Don't blame immigrants, because you're unemployable.

                  T-11 Flaccid Paraplegic due to TM July 1985 @ age 12

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                  • #10
                    Tough situation. Her theology is off-kilter, but there's not a quick & easy way to convince her of that.

                    I'd encourage her to read this book: http://amzn.to/1AYJsrA

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                    • #11
                      It's not Christianity at fault, but the caregiver's interpretation of it. I would tell the person to quit preaching or you will have to seek a replacement. I am assuming you can do that under your circumstances.
                      Tom

                      "Blessed are the pessimists, for they hath made backups." Exasperated 20:12

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                      • #12
                        None of us here can get into her mind or know her as well as you, but it sounds like the caregiver you're talking about cares about you. Probably (hopefully), so do the other people proselytizing you. Honest, caring, non-coercive proselytization isn't bad; it's just a way to win your understanding and loyalty to a cause. It's required by many religions. It's best done through acts of caring, altruism, example, or a reasoned approach, but many times people let their own pride, ego, or enthusiasm guide them into taking it too far. It sounds like it has taken you about as far as you can stand.

                        Try taking an honest, reasoned approach yourself. Tell her, respectively, how you feel about her preaching. If she forgets, remind her she's not winning you over; instead, she's turning you off. Be firm. I would not advise you to start out by using insults or snarky cleverness. It's certainly not incorrect for you to warn her that she may lose her job. She does work for you, after all.

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                        • #13
                          It is very unprofessional behavior on her part and she has crossed the line. Sit her down and tell her so, communicating to her in no uncertain terms to cease and desist. You should not have to listen to constant proselytizing in your own home.

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                          • #14
                            I agree. She is your employee. If you object to her sermonizing to you, you have to tell her, and also tell her that if it continues, you will be forced to let her go. Don't let her try to extort you out of this by threatening to leave you without care. There are other caregivers out there who will respect you as a person...you just need to look for them.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Chaz19 View Post
                              Why must every religion need to tell others they are wrong and going to hell unless saved by choosing the right spiritual sports team?
                              My take is that these are the only religions that stick around. In a modern society full of science and options, if you're adhering to a centuries old philosophy-taken-as-ultimate-truth, then the only way people are going to continue believing in your nonsense is if you convert new members... Otherwise it will wither and die as a thousand religions before it have.

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