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    I need a small line of defence against pilfering caregivers, to keep them from casually lifting little things like checks and cash that I need frequently. I know there is a danger of them stealing the whole thing, but I just would cable it to something somewhere visible, would know who it was if someone managed to cut its cable and take it.

    The problem I'm having is finding a lock I can manage. I don't want a key because there would be no place I could hide it and still access in myself. I bought a combination safe but could not push the buttons enough. I've been unable to find a soft touch keypad. Does anyone know of something like this, or have other ideas?

    My fantasy of course is something that sprays offender with indelible ink, and lets me know with an alarm. Any ideas for such a thing?

  • #2
    Random, do you have a spare room or closet you could keep all of this stuff in, and install a lock there? This is what we have done for my mother's home. It is my late father's den, and we installed a combination lock that is push button with a lever handle. Only family members have a combination.

    Otherwise, here is one I found through Google that you can install in a drawer, cabinet, or on the wall, which you might be able to operate.
    http://medsafeglobal.com/

    (KLD)
    Last edited by SCI-Nurse; 11-20-2011, 02:38 PM.
    The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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    • #3
      Most HHC workers are bonded; if you have sufficient proof you can bring both criminal charges against the worker and sue the employing agency. Been there; done that.

      Anytime something is stolen, long-distance calls made on your phone, etc. complain to both the agency in writing and your state Dept of Health and Human Services.

      Obviously, prevention is best but those sorts of activities are incredibly common...by requesting an investigation and filing a complaint you'll be preventing that worker from continuing to victimize his/her clients.

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      • #4
        Randy, sorry they are still pilfering. A fingerprint recognition safe is probably the easiest, but a bit pricey. Here's a small one for $345: http://www.acehomesafes.com/fingerpr...print-safe.php
        Don - Grad Student Emeritus
        T3 ASIA A 26 years post injury

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        • #5
          Originally posted by avictoria View Post
          Most HHC workers are bonded; if you have sufficient proof you can bring both criminal charges against the worker and sue the employing agency. Been there; done that.

          Anytime something is stolen, long-distance calls made on your phone, etc. complain to both the agency in writing and your state Dept of Health and Human Services.

          Obviously, prevention is best but those sorts of activities are incredibly common...by requesting an investigation and filing a complaint you'll be preventing that worker from continuing to victimize his/her clients.
          This would apply only if you get your caregivers from an agency that requires bonding (and a background check). Many are not licensed or certified by the state, so there is no one to complaint to there either. There is no protection like this if you hire PCAs on your own, which many people here do, even if you do or pay for a background check. Filing charges with the police does not go very far, and meanwhile you can be in dire financial straits, and have to be able to convince your provers that you are not drug-seeking when trying to replace stolen meds.

          Family members and "friends" also are known to steal controlled drugs too, so locking them up is the best policy.

          (KLD)
          The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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          • #6
            I am very lucky to not have pain, so the best high they'd ever get from me is a nice 4-AP buzz. It seems unlikely anyone would go for something effect-unknown, so I think I'm OK on the drugs front.

            Thanks KLD. I have no extra room or closet in my matchbox house to secure, but that little box looks promising. I have a wardrobe to which it could be mounted, probably.

            Thanks Don - that's a great idea too, but a little pricier than I was hoping to go. Come to think of it, I did buy a serious fingerprint door lock that I never used because I realized belatedly that I would need it to work remotely for me to reach it. Maybe I could buy a small cabinet with a doorknob, and mount it there. Does anyone know of such a thing? ...Poor Dad's work is never done.

            Though, by the way, I would rather sell it if anyone is interested. It would be perfect for controlling caregiver access. If anyone is interested, please pm me.
            Last edited by Random; 11-20-2011, 11:53 PM.

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            • #7
              Randy, here's one from Amazon for only $110. Free shipping if you have Amazon Prime.
              http://www.amazon.com/Stack-PS-10-B-...pr_product_top
              Don - Grad Student Emeritus
              T3 ASIA A 26 years post injury

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              • #8
                finger printlock box

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                You might check out home depot they sell this finger print opening safe and several others comes with a "safety cable" might be the ticket for you

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                • #9
                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by avictoria [IMG]/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif[/IMG]
                  Most HHC workers are bonded; if you have sufficient proof you can bring both criminal charges against the worker and sue the employing agency. Been there; done that.

                  Anytime something is stolen, long-distance calls made on your phone, etc. complain to both the agency in writing and your state Dept of Health and Human Services.

                  Obviously, prevention is best but those sorts of activities are incredibly common...by requesting an investigation and filing a complaint you'll be preventing that worker from continuing to victimize his/her clients.


                  This would apply only if you get your caregivers from an agency that requires bonding (and a background check). Many are not licensed or certified by the state, so there is no one to complaint to there either. There is no protection like this if you hire PCAs on your own, which many people here do, even if you do or pay for a background check. Filing charges with the police does not go very far, and meanwhile you can be in dire financial straits, and have to be able to convince your provers that you are not drug-seeking when trying to replace stolen meds.

                  Family members and "friends" also are known to steal controlled drugs too, so locking them up is the best policy.

                  (KLD)



                  Absolutely, obviously, locking up valuables is the best policy. But if medications are stolen, or checks stolen and forged, credit cards, etc one needs to notify the police.
                  Filing charges with the police may not go very far BUT you need to file charges to protect yourself if you're the victim of a crime. Try explaining to your bank, credit card company or prescribing physician that your checkbook was stolen and checks were forged, or that your pain medications were stolen but you didn't bother calling the police and filing a report.



                  Complacency is one reason these things keep happening. If the worker is bonded and insured, file written complaints and demand investigations.
                  After I filed a formal complaint against Interim Home Care, I requested their records from the state DHHS under the Freedom of Information act and saw that stolen items were replaced when it was possible, the company started following state law regarding reporting patient complaints and forwarding those complaints both to the police and to the DHHS as per state law.


                  Know your rights, know whom to contact and do not fail to report misconduct and/or criminal activities.
                  Of course lock up your valuables and be vigilant but don't be afraid to exercise your rights in case you are victimized.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Donno View Post
                    Randy, here's one from Amazon for only $110. Free shipping if you have Amazon Prime.
                    Its over $25 ..... should be free shipping no matter what.


                    (gotta love amazon!)
                    T7-8 since Feb 2005

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                    • #11
                      My attendants have stolen praticially anything they can hide on their bodies. Post-it-notes, pens, toothpaste, holsters, drugs, money, etc, etc. Trouble is, I have three helpers and by the time it comes up missing, who knows.

                      I use one of the cheap, small black lock boxes with 3 number combos. I can set them with my pointer and push the flipper release with my thumb. Not too difficult.

                      I leave it in plain sight so I would see anyone messing with it.
                      Last edited by forestranger52; 12-01-2011, 08:52 PM.
                      C 5/6 Comp.
                      No Tri's or hand function.

                      Far better it is to try mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure. Than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much or suffer much, because they live in the grey twilight that knows neither victory or defeat.

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