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  • #16
    not a real religious type here, but been supporting JAF for years. i don't see any similarity to the tv evangelists at all. i get the newsletter. JAF does a lot of good. so, i think maybe judgements are being made based on other factors. btw, really, what does her name have to do w/it? i've known plenty of ppl with weird sp/pronunciation. she's a good speaker, not pushy, JAF provides w/cs, retreats, etc. so, not your thing. doesn't make her a bad person.

    as far as some comment about get a real job, well...she is doing a hell of a lot more to help ppl than my engineering job ever did so i don't get the point.

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    • #17
      I like her personally, but I dislike her philosophy.

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      • #18
        Beside the letter and the book she sent my son, her organization also asked us if we needed any financial help while he was in acute rehab.
        Luke 5:24

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Sue Pendleton View Post

          IOWs? The religious types should ask the patient if they would like the company/prayers/whatever and ask in such a way that at our weakest we can squeak out a polite, very weak NO and that's it.
          My uncle is very religious, and works with a missionary type organization. He visit me a lot while I was in the hospital, and while I appreciated the family part of the visits, I didn;t appreciate the whole "god has a reason for this .... etc" that he constantly spoke about. (My mother found out about this later, and was furious, she would have had it out with him had she known.)

          You also mention being so weak .... I have to laugh now, but he gave me a new modern translation of the Bible. Which might have been appreciated, had it not been a very large, hard cover, version. I couldn;t even lift it at the time.
          T7-8 since Feb 2005

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          • #20
            LOL Yea, after two weeks down on the neuro floor I started on..comic books. Blah! Graduated to a short paperback with a well broken back before I left. One of the girls at the local bank got me a few of those rubber tip things for my left fore finger so I could turn pages.

            Yea, I continue to still get the ''God's plan" business from the door knockers. Had one of the spous'e co-workers show up one day after calling to insist I needed to know something terribly important. I invited him over. I was prepared for be told I might be hearing about divorce plans or something. He showed with his wife and a niece in tow. Then he started on 'the word' and ended up babbling in 'tongues'. Tongues I could identify...Swahili. Told him politely that if he ever bothered me again or I heard he did this to anyone else; than I'd be calling the folks that investigate people who may need their security clearance yanked for bouncing checks and other fiscal problems, addictions without seeking treatment and those who need evaluated for mental illness.

            OK, she can't be all bad if she offers financial assistance to those in need.
            Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow."

            Disclaimer: Answers, suggestions, and/or comments do not constitute medical advice expressed or implied and are based solely on my experiences as a SCI patient. Please consult your attending physician for medical advise and treatment. In the event of a medical emergency please call 911.

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            • #21
              This thread has some amazingly good humor it it. I am starting to wonder if I am the only person out there who did NOT get a book from Joni? Bummer. Sue, your mention of the hospital chaplin coming brought back memories of my days in hospital. They took me to a Catholic hospital initially and there were two elder nuns (covering both "awake" shifts!) who seemed so far into their senior years that they had little to do besides forcing holy cards on everyone. I was on a Stryker frame (remember those?) and the good sister's kept coming in with fresh holy cards and tape to attach them to the frame over my head. They usually did this when I was on my stomach and for all I knew they could have been festooning the frame with baloons or porn. They even insisted on handing them out to my bed mate, whose name was Mrs. Rosenblume. You would think the name might have given them a clue that the dear woman did not worship at the same altar they did, but they were undeterred. Anyway, back to topic. I know who Joni is, of course, but I don't believe in any of the things she believes in and it would make me upset to think that AB's thought we were all tarred with the same brush.

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              • #22
                My mom became paralyzed(non sci) when I was about 5 and someone gave her the book.I guess it was 84-85 and I remember thinking"sure is strange that lady paints with her mouth" when I looked through the pictures,lol.I never imagined I'd fastforward to 06 and be reading the revised version.I actually liked it,read "A Step Forward",then "The God I Love".I ordered the movie too.I was grasping for straws in the beginning to feel good about this disability.I remember her saying "I'd rather be sitting to know God than to walk and not know him @ all".I actually felt closer to Him than I ever did or ever will until I truly thought about her views and reasonings on how/why we get hurt".My interpretation was that God allows these things to save us from the wraths of hell and to see if we will "praise " Him "through the storm",like we're not only being tested but somehow taught a lesson to get us to change for the better.Idk,maybe I got it mixed up,ever the less got turned off.She does do alot of charity work also through her organization"Wheels 4 the World",that's cool.Anyways,I got a letter too although I don't know where it is.It wasn't like yours.Glad many find comfort in her though.I'd still like to go to one of her gimp camps,well maybe.


                Oh,I also run into many Christians that try to convince me I could be the next Joni.Not w/ this gutter mouth,dirty mind and the way I view life,lol.We have the chair in common and that's all that matters I guessStupid people!
                Last edited by quad79; 07-10-2009, 08:53 PM. Reason: had a cut-off sentence,

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Le Type Fran├žais View Post
                  I like her personally, but I dislike her philosophy.
                  Yea,that's what I'm trying to say too.

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                  • #24
                    while i don't totally embrace her beliefs, i admire joni in more ways than one. i think she is a great lady!

                    my resources are limited ( a lot ) but whenever i can, i do send a donation to JAF.

                    i'd love to meet her in person one day!
                    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" ~ edmund burker

                    c4-5 quad

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Lola_wheelie View Post
                      while i don't totally embrace her beliefs, i admire joni in more ways than one. i think she is a great lady!

                      my resources are limited ( a lot ) but whenever i can, i do send a donation to JAF.

                      i'd love to meet her in person one day!
                      Hey Lola,

                      And yea, I'm behind in my emails. Does JAF have an online grant application or other way to ask for funds? Jerry is a believer and may need some help with renovation costs. Thanks.

                      Sue
                      Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow."

                      Disclaimer: Answers, suggestions, and/or comments do not constitute medical advice expressed or implied and are based solely on my experiences as a SCI patient. Please consult your attending physician for medical advise and treatment. In the event of a medical emergency please call 911.

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                      • #26
                        sue, i believe they can help. please contact JAF. they refurbish donated chrs and stuff like that. JAF is really a missionary type thing. just google JAF and ask. i dunno the situation you're referring to, but i'd try JAF. now going to do some reading on jerry, who i don't know.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Sue Pendleton View Post
                          Hey Lola,

                          And yea, I'm behind in my emails. Does JAF have an online grant application or other way to ask for funds? Jerry is a believer and may need some help with renovation costs. Thanks.

                          Sue

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                          • #28
                            VQ, Don't be a smart ass. :')
                            Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow."

                            Disclaimer: Answers, suggestions, and/or comments do not constitute medical advice expressed or implied and are based solely on my experiences as a SCI patient. Please consult your attending physician for medical advise and treatment. In the event of a medical emergency please call 911.

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                            • #29
                              Someone gave me the book too

                              not sure what i did with it --oooops
                              L1,2 Para since 9-12-99
                              ~*~*~Priscilla~*~*~
                              Mommy to William (2004) Lucas (2008) Nathan (2011)
                              The Wheelchair Mommy Blog

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                              • #30
                                Never got the book nor anything from her, but then again, I was injured way before she did. I did however see the movie about her. At that time, she had not gotten to the point where she is now in life. I think it is great that has found a way to cope plus to help others in different ways. However, I think we all, given time, do somehow learn to cope and keep on going. We also find our own way of dealing with what has happened whether religion or something else is involved, it is in the end our own way. (Love that song, "My Way") It is really great that we are given the opportunity to make up our minds which way to choose and how to do it. One thing I do find is helpful is the support and empathy given many times to us when we need it on forums like CC.

                                As to being interested in listening to her, I think I have found my own way here with the members whom I so far have encountered and gotten the support and help I have needed many times. Not putting her down, mind you, just that I am happy to have found CC and my own personal beliefs plus the blessings I have in my own life.

                                Eileen, didn't you dread having to be turned in that Stryker Bed? I used to hold my breath whenever they had to turn it. One time, it came loose from the feet and the orderly had to hold on tight so not to drop me and the frame. That was scary. Good thing he worked out and man, he was strong plus good-looking. Heehee. Never forgot him.

                                Raven
                                Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones; and when you have laboriously accomplished your daily task, go to sleep in peace. ~Victor Hugo~

                                A warrior is not one who always wins,
                                but one who keeps on fighting to the end ~ Unknown ~

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