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    Is your kitchen sink lowered?

    The kitchen's getting redone and this question came up. I'm thinking of the AB people using it.ing it's too low. I always hated a low sink when I was ab. The only advantage I see is that instead of 1 long countertop, it can be broken up and there probably won't be any seams. I think I can get by with the standard height. Anyone care to share their experience?

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    My sink 2 cents

    When I built my house I had the upper cabinets hung 2 inches lower than standard and my sink done at the standard height. The area under my sink is sloped back toward the wall so that I can face the sink and my feet (foot rests) go under the sink. The slopped area is finished with cabinet facing to match all the other kitchen cabinets so the pipes are not visible. One draw back is that you can't have a garbage disposal installed under the sink.

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      #3
      I don't mind high normal sinks if they are roll under. I had the kitchen and bathroom sink modified here so that I could roll up to them.
      Andrew

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        #4
        T11-12. We just took occupancy of a new house we had built on Feb. 2007. I made no changes to the kitchen for myself. Countertops w/ island are 36”. I sit high in my chair and I am not short so I still have access to everything at counter level. Since I have no under-counter access for my chair, I just pull up sideways when I want to use the sink. I can wash dishes on those rare occasions. We are all happy with it here and know there will be no problems if we ever sell the house in the future.

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          #5
          This subject piqed my interest - several years ago, I rented a handicap accessible apartment (at a big discount too) even though I don't have a mobility disorder. I suspect the landlord was able to get a tax break since I am legally disabled? (I'm deaf) and she said she needed to rent the unit.

          Anyways, it had a low sink, in between a dishwasher on the left and cabinets on the right. Garbage disposal, too (small enough it probably wouldn't have interfered. The stovetop side was lowered as well. Me personally, it didn't bother me and so I would recommend you go with the lower sink. Better for an AB to have to adapt than the other way round. If you feel you must compromise, I'd raise it only as much as you feel comfortable using it, not all the way. Good luck with the remodel.

          Tom

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            #6
            A sink that is too low will definitely cause a back-ache for your AB friends and family. Options would include either installing two sinks at different heights, or if you have the funds, putting in an adjustable height sink. Here are a couple examples:

            http://www.ad-as.com/kb/approach_sink.htm

            http://www.geappliances.com/design_c...versal_design/

            http://www.accessibleconstruction.co...rooms/36b.html

            http://www.barrierfree.org/counters_new.php

            (KLD)
            The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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              #7
              Everything in my kitchen is electric so I can take everything up and down so it fits me and any AB even small children.
              TH 12, 43 years post

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                #8
                Originally posted by JAYCUE
                The kitchen's getting redone and this question came up. I'm thinking of the AB people using it.ing it's too low. I always hated a low sink when I was ab. The only advantage I see is that instead of 1 long countertop, it can be broken up and there probably won't be any seams. I think I can get by with the standard height.
                Raise the dishwasher, but keep the sink the standard height or maybe lower the overall counter height by an inch or so, but no more. Have a cutout under your sink with doors covering it that open and then roll back, out of the way.

                That was the compromise we came up with for our kitchen. My husband is almost 6 ft tall and my chair sits very low. We tried to make things as functional for both of us as possible without making it appear that we "modified" anything. Nothing institutional looking.

                C.

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                  #9
                  We lowered a stretch of counter including the drop in stove and sink. Since I am tall, we only lowered them 2 inches. The sink is shallow, and I can roll under it. We also have a garbage disposal, the drain is at the back right corner of the sink. Project isn;t quite complete, so right now everything underneath is exposed, but it will covered by a panel. It works well, and I don;t get soaked doing dishes anymore.

                  But I do believe that the roll under is what is important. I could handle a roll under sink at full height. The biggest problem would be seeing what is in it, near the front. Consider who uses the sink the most. If it is you (by a large margin) lower it, if it is others, go for full height, and roll under.
                  T7-8 since Feb 2005

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                    #10
                    Roll under is the way I decided to go and it works great for me. One caution though. Make sure you insulate and or install all pipes and the underside of the sink so your legs can't get against anything HOT!
                    L1 Complete - Injury 3/12/06 - Grateful to be alive!!!!

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                      #11
                      Thanks for all the replies. Installation is starting and we're going with the normal height. Once you mention wheelchair, the designer and anyone else involved automatically wants to lower it.
                      KLD, thanks for those links. That automated sink is nice but a little pricey for me. That would settle it though.
                      Raise the dishwasher, but keep the sink the standard height or maybe lower the overall counter height by an inch or so, but no more. Have a cutout under your sink with doors covering it that open and then roll back, out of the way.
                      My brother wanted to do the door thing (does that stuff for a living), but we might do it like P.J. described. (either way I'll still get the info for you Andy if you're reading this)

                      It's weird. I want it to look as "normal" as I can and the AB want to modify everything. I'm not complaining about that, I'm just saying.

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                        #12
                        When we just remodeled our kitchen this summer I specified normal height and no cabinet. With cabinets on either side and a run of stone countertop and undermount sink, that has the drains at the back of the sink, it has worked great. Our carpenter has been great with making things work for us. We had a U-shaped desk built for Jim, custom, that has 2 stations, one for computer set-up and another for a book stand that I built him-each station has a small section cutout for his joystick on his powerchair so he can cruise right in. With the kitchen sink I just hung a curtain in front on an expandable rod that matches the curtains I made, since it fits in with the cottage decor and that has worked well. For all the cleaning supplies that usually end up under the sink I got a rolling cart and that has proved to be great as I can wheel it to where ever I need to clean and it's kept in the pantry next to the kitchen. Deb

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by JAYCUE
                          My brother wanted to do the door thing (does that stuff for a living), but we might do it like P.J. described.
                          If you do it that way, be sure to take some measurements and be certain that the panel that covers the pipes under the sink still leaves enough room for you to roll your knees under and get close enough to the sink for it to be functional. A few yrs after my accident, my parents built a vacation home and were so sure they knew enough about what is "accessible" they didn't consult me about this. I can barely get close enough to the sink in my bathroom to brush my teeth. It's a little annoying.

                          It's weird. I want it to look as "normal" as I can and the AB want to modify everything.
                          Yeah, I've gotten some of that over the yrs.

                          C.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by lilsister
                            When we just remodeled our kitchen this summer I specified normal height and no cabinet. With cabinets on either side and a run of stone countertop and undermount sink, that has the drains at the back of the sink, it has worked great. Our carpenter has been great with making things work for us. We had a U-shaped desk built for Jim, custom, that has 2 stations, one for computer set-up and another for a book stand that I built him-each station has a small section cutout for his joystick on his powerchair so he can cruise right in. With the kitchen sink I just hung a curtain in front on an expandable rod that matches the curtains I made, since it fits in with the cottage decor and that has worked well. For all the cleaning supplies that usually end up under the sink I got a rolling cart and that has proved to be great as I can wheel it to where ever I need to clean and it's kept in the pantry next to the kitchen. Deb
                            Would you be able to post a pic of the desk? That might be the next project. I have an idea of what I want but seeing others may help. Also, do you know where you got your sink from? Thanks.

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                              #15
                              We bought an Elkay sink from Bender Plumbing Supplies in Waturbury CT. We were limited to a 25" inch single sink, due to existing design constraints in the kitchen. Elkay sinks come in a wide range of depths, and with the drain in the center, or back left corner, back right corner. Also a wide range of weights, which is what determines the price. (You can actually get a very light weight stainless steel sink, rear drain, 6" depth for under $30, but I wouldn;t recommend it, the steel is to thin) Don;t depend on the pictures on the elkay site .... they show a general one, check the specs. If I didn;t have the space considerations, I would have chosen a double bowl, with a cutting board to go over one of the bowls. Stores like Lowes and Home Depot are a good place to start, but there are a lot more sink models than the ones they show. I(f you can go with a 33" footprint there are a lot more choices. Be sure to give some thought to your faucets and how they will work for you.
                              T7-8 since Feb 2005

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