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  • Trying to make our new home accessible

    So we are finally moving into our own place, and need to widen doors, build a ramp, re-do the bathroom.
    Anyone have any advice on the ramp in particular?

    Also, what is preferable - a corner sink or one from the side of the wall? All the corner sinks I found are so tiny - though the contractor says they are more stable than one right out of the wall.

    here is our GoFundMe for the project, if anyone feels so inspired: https://www.gofundme.com/accessiblesaed

    Any advice is also very much appreciated.
    Thanks!!!
    “Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.” -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

  • #2
    $3600 to build a ramp? I just found a 10 ft aluminum ramp with handrails on Wayfair for $800, free shipping. If either of the two ramp locations are covered, I would build one out of pressure treated wood. That would definitely save you money. Put some outdoor carpeting on it and can last a long time.

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    • #3
      Impossible to provide advice without more information. How much rise do you need for the ramp? How much space do you have for the run of the ramp? Will you need to do a switchback ramp or a will a straight run work? How important are the aesthetics of the ramp to you?

      Kitchen sink? Bathroom sink? What is the bathroom layout you have in that bathroom currently? Power chair or manual chair?

      Posting photos of the issues you need to remedy would help a lot in both soliticing donations and in getting advice from CC members.

      (and technically, it is a violation of CC rules to solicit funding for yourself personally on this site)


      (KLD)
      The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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      • #4
        Tman; I have very little liking for "pressure treated" wood I build my own (have built) ramps to enter my home from MARINE plywood and treat it with an thinned epoxy resin, so it can soak into the wood. Pressure treated wood is not compatible with epoxies the oils defeat the impregnation of the thinned epoxies. the pressure treatment deteriorates after a time and is defeated by the rainfall and sun combination. Painting with a sand mix again epoxy paint is in my opinion a far better protective and attractive finished ramp. Indoor/outdoor mats hold rain water and moisture under it, and enhances rot in any wood products.

        In my almost life long years having been a boat owner I have those life learned prejudices, I just wish to share my point of view.

        I bought an 50+ year old beach type house, not created with HP accessibility in mind. Smaller doorways and lower (9") level accessed area that I ramped indoors. I now have a HP accessible shower, and bathroom and a whole accessible home from out doors. I believe in the KISS principal, Keep It Simple Stupid. It works quite well for me.

        KLD was posting as I was writing. Her points are quite valid. Paint can cover aesthetics but space and dimensions are critical, BTW I have a powered wheelchair so I can shorten the lengths for ramps a tad, and with rear drive and have some upper body control so I can make them a bit steeper as well.

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        • #5
          You can get a lot of information off of this site by using the search feature. The search box, a white rectangle, is located on the right side in the light blue banner below the Care Cure Community title. You can scan all of the topics in the forum entitled Housing and Home Design. These topics has been discussed a good deal and there is a lot of good information and pictures that can be very helpful to you. Here are a few to start you off.
          https://www.carecure.net/forum/showt...eelchair+sinks
          https://www.carecure.net/forum/showt...eelchair+sinks
          https://www.carecure.net/forum/showt...eelchair+sinks
          https://www.carecure.net/forum/showt...eelchair+sinks
          https://www.carecure.net/forum/showt...-the-way-under

          Unless you are hiring a contractor that has experience in building and remodeling for wheelchair accessibilty, you really can't rely on their advise about what is suitable for you. Most contractors don't have a clue what you may need. They have a perception of what might be needed, but usually that perception isn't based on experience. Very often their perceptions are totally off base. Before you start remodeling, start educating yourself about what is available in the market place, study, research, look at lots of pictures.

          Widening doors is a big deal and expensive. You may not need to widen doors if you need just a couple of inches more to access the door opening. There are inexpensive off set/swing clear hinges that might give you the extra couple inches you need. http://www.adaptiveaccess.com/offset_hinges.php

          Here are some websites to look at:
          Cost:
          https://www.fixr.com/costs/disability-remodeling
          http://www.improvenet.com/r/costs-an...emodeling-cost
          http://www.globaldisabilityrightsnow...Accessible.pdf
          http://legaleaglecontractors.com/tax...modifications/
          http://www.homeadvisor.com/r/grants-.../#.WOfTQJJdTcM

          Design Considerations:
          http://www.eastersealstech.com/2014/...elchair-users/
          http://www.houzz.com/handicap-access...throom-designs
          http://www.mobility-advisor.com/ada-bathroom.html
          http://www.adaptiveaccess.com/home_changes.php

          There are hundreds of websites to review and get ideas.

          Start doing your homework and good luck.
          Last edited by gjnl; 04-07-2017, 02:22 PM.

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          • #6
            images and responses

            Originally posted by SCI-Nurse View Post
            Impossible to provide advice without more information. How much rise do you need for the ramp? How much space do you have for the run of the ramp? Will you need to do a switchback ramp or a will a straight run work? How important are the aesthetics of the ramp to you?

            Kitchen sink? Bathroom sink? What is the bathroom layout you have in that bathroom currently? Power chair or manual chair?

            Posting photos of the issues you need to remedy would help a lot in both soliticing donations and in getting advice from CC members.

            (and technically, it is a violation of CC rules to solicit funding for yourself personally on this site)


            (KLD)
            thanks
            I have attached a photo of the bathroom. He's a manual wheelchair user, we're talking about the bathroom sink.

            this is the quote from the wheelchair ramp company (Amramp):
            For the ramp in the back (17? total with 5?x5? platform at door and 4?X4? turning platform with full rails)
            Purchase - $4480
            Rent - $360/month with installation and removal charge of $740

            For the ramp in the front (16? total with 4?X5? platform at door)(
            Purchase - $3230
            Rent - $280/month with $515 labor charge



            But I think I can do it myself with 2x4s, I just need some instructions. I will just build the straight one, in the front, which will be 16 feet long.
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            “Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.” -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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            • #7
              Do you have a picture of the sink area?

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              • #8
                There's a charitable non-profit called Texasramps.org that builds ramps for the disabled all over Texas. It looks like these folks may build ramps in Oregon: http://www.ramps.org/projects-oregon.htm

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                • #9
                  I picked up a wall mount sink from Home Depot back in the day for like $80. And installed it myself from a wheelchair. This stuff can be quite not so costly. Use a "bariatric" tub bench at like $60, wide and stable in the existing tub/shower. If you can get the wheelchair into the bathroom...not much more needs to be done if he's using a manual chair.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bob Sullivan View Post
                    Tman; I have very little liking for "pressure treated" wood I build my own (have built) ramps to enter my home from MARINE plywood and treat it with an thinned epoxy resin, so it can soak into the wood. Pressure treated wood is not compatible with epoxies the oils defeat the impregnation of the thinned epoxies. the pressure treatment deteriorates after a time and is defeated by the rainfall and sun combination. Painting with a sand mix again epoxy paint is in my opinion a far better protective and attractive finished ramp. Indoor/outdoor mats hold rain water and moisture under it, and enhances rot in any wood products.
                    I'll have to look into the marine plywood. My back deck that extends to the pool and the ramp down into the grass are all pressure treated with some outdoor carpeting. The main reason I decided to use the carpet on top was because my dog would lay out in the sun, has sensitive skin, and would get irritation or minor scrapes from the wood as it dried out. Put the carpet down so he could lay on that. I switch it out about once a year or so because it also disintegrates and the fibers can irritate his skin. Each of those times that I swap out the carpet, the wood underneath has always been in better condition than the surrounding. My backyard also gets sun all day, no shade, which may help with a possible moisture problem. The wooden ramp in my garage is not pressure treated and carpeted without any damage going on almost 9 years now. The back deck is 6 years old and I'll probably replace the majority of it in a few years, but it won't cost anywhere near the $4480 she was quoted. I guess it's a mixture of cost and location plus preference.

                    Does putting on the epoxy resin get it to the point where it is slicker? I've used spar varnish in enough coats to where it is smooth as glass, which isn't want I want in a ramp.

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                    • #11
                      If you hire a contractor, have a contract drawn up and pay a lawyer to do it. Make sure it is results oriented such as all wall switches must be easily accessible. We chose an outfit with an aging-in-place certification [not worth the cost of the paper the certificate was printed on]. They immediately subcontracted everything and the result was half good half a mess.
                      Tom

                      "Blessed are the pessimists, for they hath made backups." Exasperated 20:12

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                      • #12
                        I don't know about getting an attorney involved beforehand. Good luck finding a contractor to work for you, if you do.

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                        • #13
                          Tman 9513,

                          Question does an epoxy treatment make the marine plywood slicker?
                          Ans; YES but a sand like abrasive is very easy to apply if you wish. The additives to pressure treated plywood and all pressure treated wood is more than likely a dog skin irritant. It is poisonous if somehow it it get into the dog internally. Dogs often take to chewing on wood. As do little children. Smooth ramps are slick by the nature of being without a natural grip. Ramps made of slats are much more safe from a smoothness perspective. My opinions come from a boat owner's point of view, as well as a building codes point of view as well.

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                          • #14
                            Tom RL once bitten, twice shy ???? Buy a house plan, get someone preferably yourself and do a full plan review. This is not difficult, but it is tedious. A single floored home is rather simple, but you have to be familiar with your needs. Reference every HP specification you can find, you only want to do this once so the effort is well worth it.

                            If you hire a professional question everything for you, it is worth being a pain in the ass to them it prevents you from having one. And besides it is your dime.

                            Another warning some states have as a law; that licensed building professionals cannot question another licensed professional's work, this rule often comes under the State Department of Education law, Not where you would expect to find such a Law or Regulation! Building Laws usually come under a State Department of their own, or the Department of State. They regulate and they oversee the municipalities operations.

                            Good luck I sincerely hope you get exactly what you want.

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