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    #31
    Originally posted by darrel
    crap, I thought you were trying to say eat a book at first, I don't need that much fiber...ha,ha
    Edible books....?
    Hmm....Interesting idea.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Juke_spin
      You just asked about a half dozen different questions Adi. Clarify and we can proceed.
      simple juke ...raw meat and evolution ....
      http://www.ecologos.org/meat-eating.htm

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        #33
        Originally posted by adi chicago
        i learned that fire and cooked meat made a huge diffrence regarding humans and other inferior species.true or not?

        That was definitely discussed in this book. Cooking makes animal protein more digestible and it kills germs and parasites. Hunting probably promoted the development of language and social skills.
        No question about it. When our ancestors became meat eaters they took a giant evolutionary step. It just that, I think, we were never able to get as much animal protein as we could of all the other stuff, so our bodies are built for meat and veggies. Also, I understand that we are not able to derive all the vitamins from meats that true carnivores can. We need certain vegetable foods.

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          #34
          Originally posted by garvey
          That was definitely discussed in this book. Cooking makes animal protein more digestible and it kills germs and parasites. Hunting probably promoted the development of language and social skills.
          No question about it. When our ancestors became meat eaters they took a giant evolutionary step. It just that, I think, we were never able to get as much animal protein as we could of all the other stuff, so our bodies are built for meat and veggies. Also, I understand that we are not able to derive all the vitamins from meats that true carnivores can. We need certain vegetable foods.
          They took a giant step that would allow them to increase their numbers, develop social and language skills, etc. ect. but they did not take any kind of evolutionary step by developing the ability and practice of cooking and eating animal protein. An evolutionary advance is in the genes in such a way that it expresset itself in the morphology* of the species. While subsequent modification of genetic structure was set to favor anything/everything beneficial to the newly incorporated meat cooking practices, the morphology of the species was unaffected by the development of the practice at the time it took place.

          *http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/morphology
          "The world will not perish for want of wonders but for want of wonder."
          J.B.S.Haldane

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            #35
            hehe guys ...i eat raw meat sometimes...to avoid the damn bill of gas...lol.
            the meat is tasty .

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              #36
              Juke- sorry I so offended you. I didnt think putting the pictures up was going to upset anyone. I was for once in a pretty good mood and just making light of the differences between what vegetarians and meat eaters have for choices, nothing more.
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              Stay safe my son. See you around thanksgiving!

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                #37
                Originally posted by Juke_spin
                They took a giant step that would allow them to increase their numbers, develop social and language skills, etc. ect. but they did not take any kind of evolutionary step by developing the ability and practice of cooking and eating animal protein. An evolutionary advance is in the genes in such a way that it expresset itself in the morphology* of the species. While subsequent modification of genetic structure was set to favor anything/everything beneficial to the newly incorporated meat cooking practices, the morphology of the species was unaffected by the development of the practice at the time it took place.

                *http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/morphology
                You are correct - I misused the term "evolutionary".

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Robynbird569
                  Juke- sorry I so offended you. I didnt think putting the pictures up was going to upset anyone. I was for once in a pretty good mood and just making light of the differences between what vegetarians and meat eaters have for choices, nothing more.
                  For future reference, vegetarian meal choices are not limited to rotten looking vegetables. Maybe this thread will help expose you to the many and varied non meat options available. In fact, I'll look for some photos to post. And I promise not to contrast them with pictures of rotten slabs of meat just to make a point.
                  Last edited by antiquity; 28 Oct 2007, 1:45 PM.

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                    #39
                    This ones for you Juke and any others who would like to add a little veggie goodness to their lives. Here is one of my wife’s recipes. It works well as a side dish for non-vegetarians too. I even like it as a vegetable side dish with a thick medium-rare steak and a baked potato.

                    This amount is probably good for six side-dish servings. Add seasoning and spices to suit your taste.

                    3 organic zucchini
                    4 organic yellow squash
                    1 can of organic fire roasted tomatoes
                    1 can or 1-cup fresh organic mushrooms
                    1 whole onion cut into rings
                    Slice your zucchini, squash and mushrooms into thin slices, do not peel them. Then put a small amount of oil olive in the bottom of a glass dish then put in your veggies and mix them around a bit then add your can of tomatoes, liquid and all. Put this in a 400 oven for about 45 to 50 minutes or until your vegetables are not crunchy anymore. You can add some salt and pepper to taste. You can serve this with rice or as a side dish with meat. It’s up to you.

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                      #40
                      Thanks Ala, that sounds good. I love zucchini.

                      Here are a few dishes. They are: veggie lasagna, veggie pizza, my fav. aloo gobi, cambodian veggie stew, garden gumbo, mexican pumkin soup, veggie burger, pasta and veggies, pasta primavera.

















                      Last edited by antiquity; 28 Oct 2007, 1:44 PM.

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                        #41
                        this may sound silly, but it is an honest question...how can it be a veggy burger when burger is ground meat?.. I am not trying to start an aruement..just explain it please..

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by darrel
                          this may sound silly, but it is an honest question...how can it be a veggy burger when burger is ground meat?.. I am not trying to start an aruement..just explain it please..
                          American Heritage Dictionary This burg·er (bûr'gər) Pronunciation Key
                          n.
                          A sandwich consisting of a bun, a cooked beef patty, and often other ingredients such as cheese, onion slices, lettuce, or condiments. Often used in combination: a cheeseburger.
                          A similar sandwich with a nonbeef filling. Often used in combination: a crab burger; a tofu burger.

                          http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/burger

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                            #43
                            okay, thank you..I think I could handle the crab burger a lot easier than the tofo

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                              #44
                              If you drain firm tofu, cube it, marinate it in Chinese chili sauce and something sweet like apricot preserves and a bit of sesame oil, you can stir fry it like meat, with some vegetables, and it is delicious. I let my family eat it, answering evasively until they were done. THEN I told them what it was! They actually loved it. Tofu really absorbs flavors of marinade, in my experience.

                              I'm not a veggie, just don't like meat all that much.
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by darrel
                                okay, thank you..I think I could handle the crab burger a lot easier than the tofo
                                LOL. I'll try to find some pics of veggie burgers. The most popular type is black bean but there are soy burgers too.

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