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    Educational Levels for Children

    The recent conversation about the No Child Left Behind Act made me curious. What levels are children on at what age? For instance, how old are kids when they are able to recognize shapes? Letters? Colors? Make logical correlaries [eg, flip switch, light comes on]?

    How old are they before they are able to answer yes/no questions [eg, this one]? Have enough motor skill to use a mouse?

    Any information would be appreciated.

    -Steven
    ...oh I must be fine because my heart's still beating
    ...it's worse than we thought. it turns out the people at the white house are not secret muslims, they're nerds.

    #2
    Steven, I'm sure you'd like a more serious answer than this, but I'm still wondering when an 11 year old doesn't have to be reminded to brush his teeth before leaving for school.

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      #3
      You could spend a life-time learning about developmental landmarks and normative behavior in the growning human being. Remember that normative information is just that...it does not dictate necessarily that a child is DD or slow if they don't hit these on the dot, nor does it mean they are a genius if they meet them early.

      Of course these also lead to the discussion of genetics or enviornment. Does an enriched environment help a child reach landmarks earlier, for example?

      Here are some links that might help:

      http://www.toosoon.com/parents/dev_landmarks.htm

      http://www.childstudy.net/landmark.html

      http://www.childstudy.net/2-3yr.html

      You might also want to do some readings on the work of child development specialists such as Piaget.

      (KLD)
      The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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        #4
        Thanks KLD.

        I was curious about the educational development because I remade some of the simpler games I played as a kid [eg, Number Munchers, Word Munchers] in Javascript and was wondering if such games would be helpful to pre-K education programs around my area. If so, I would offer them to the pre-K classes and show the teachers how to use them. If the kids can't use the computer at that age [the _|_ arrow keys on keyboard or mouse], I guess it wouldn't work.

        Thanks again.

        -Steven
        ...oh I must be fine because my heart's still beating
        ...it's worse than we thought. it turns out the people at the white house are not secret muslims, they're nerds.

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          #5
          I know pre-K kids who have command of the mouse and follow programs with audio prompts with no problem. Putt Putt is a good example of software for little kiddies. My daughter enjoyed it.

          Mary

          If I can see it, then I can do it. If I believe it, there's nothing to it.
          1FineSpineRN

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            #6
            steven,
            i am currently a program director for a local after school program for at risk children. i would absolutely LOVE to see if your programs could benefit my kids. i would then bring it t the board and suggest purchase of the programs. my kids need motivational software to help them in all aspects of math and reading. for example i have a 5th grader who can not read or add. its pretty sad out there today, some parents just dont care about these kids!

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              #7
              Notes: pre-K kids can use mouse with audio prompts. [img]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]

              Chica, the programs would be free. I am trying to figure out the proper order to put them in for "proper" learning [eg, shapes first, then letters, etc]. I don't remember the proper order from when I was that young, so I thought I would ask on here. [img]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]

              Are the kids at the 'at risk' program generally interested in things other kids aren't?

              -Steven
              ...oh I must be fine because my heart's still beating
              ...it's worse than we thought. it turns out the people at the white house are not secret muslims, they're nerds.

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                #8
                Steven,
                This is a wonderful project you are working on.
                Hope it all comes together well for you.

                I wonder if these types of games could be brought back even off computer.
                Most inner city kids don't have home computers and the games you mentioned are ever so good.

                Best of luck.

                "Mamas don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys.
                Life isn't about getting thru the storm but learning to dance in the rain.

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                  #9
                  no my kids are just stubborn lazy kids with no parental support and super shi##y home lifes. tehparents use our tutoring service as a babysitting service. oh well atleast i am making progress with the kids! today i had 3 kids come in and hang up their book bags and hand me their homework then get a book with only 1 verbal prompt! omg it was a miracle day for me! i only had to yell once!

                  as for teaching things, it all goes together, the kids dont learn one before teh other, they are all individual lessons taken thru the day. such as one time is learning numbers, then another session might be learning letters, then another session might be shapes. it all goes hand in hand.

                  my kids are interested in normal kid things such as who is dating who (yes first graders!) and what so and so got on his test.

                  thanks again i would love to test this software out for you and give you feedback. it would be an awesoem privalage to get this up and running.

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                    #10
                    Steven,

                    What you are proposing to do would be very, very helpful to young children. I have three young grandchildren, ages 3, 4, and 8 and they have all used my computer (and their's at home), to play educational games on. They really do learn a lot from them.

                    It seems the first learning categories are shapes, colours, matching pictures, which one is different, numbers 1-10, ABC's (sometimes singing the alphabet), etc. I started them out, sitting on my lap, and doing it together. Sometimes they would find it hard to learn how to use the mouse - sometimes clicking both sides like crazy.......so they have to be monitored.

                    For children who do not have access to a computer or busy parents that do not permit it, they really are at a disadvantage.

                    Good Luck!

                    Darlene
                    I see I didn't answer your questions. Children can learn to answer yes/no as early as 2 or 3 years old. Sometimes the yes has a picture of a character nodding his head yes/ and the no, shaking his head no. Usually by three years old, a child can use the mouse properly.

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                      #11
                      Steven, you're my hero. Again!

                      The easiest way to get a feel for what the experts think kids can manage is to have a look at Sesame Street. It's aimed at pre-schoolers, but my kids liked it all the way through about 2nd grade.

                      Emphasis there is colors, numbers, shapes, alphabet, patterns (which one of these is not like the others?) and relationships . . . all on a very basic level.

                      This program is brought to you by the letter H and the number 6.

                      [img]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]

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                        #12
                        Thanks Lindox, Becky, Darlene and Kate.

                        Looks like I'll be watching Sesame Street for a little while... heck, I may even learn something! [img]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/img]

                        The initial "structure" for the game was something I made [almost a year ago] based on the game Number Munchers that I played in elementary school. A simple adaptation of it allows the user to learn the basic characters in the Japanese syllabry. For example, follow this link and click the "kana munchers" link.

                        The goal is to match the indicated syllable ["KU", in this case] with the matching symbol [the one that looks kinda like a big curvy < sign]. Use the arrow keys to move the little guy around and the spacebar to slash the character out of existence. [img]/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Remove all the KU symbols, and you win. In the full version, you would move on to the next level/character. To play a version that gives you a random Japanese syllable, try here.

                        If you slash the correct character, a green O appears briefly in the top right corner; the incorrect character, a red X. Right now you can't die in it, but... that can be fixed. Which leads to another question: Red is pretty much recognized as wrong. Is there a "standard" color for correct?

                        I am looking at some old games and see if they can be adapted for learning purposes.

                        Thanks again! [img]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]

                        -Steven
                        ...can you tell me how to get, how to get to Sesame Street?
                        ...it's worse than we thought. it turns out the people at the white house are not secret muslims, they're nerds.

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