*This was a reply to John's post a few days ago, but I decided to make it it's own thread for visibility.*

I want to offer my

*on exercise calorie monitoring: DON'T BELIEVE IT!*

__opinion__1. The calculations are based on some sort of mathematical average written into the software. Average basically means that most bodies will burn calories at a rate higher OR lower than that number. The odds of you being average aren't great because...

2. The software is written for able-bodied people who use more and larger muscles than us. An average person's one thigh may have more muscle mass than all of my triceps and biceps combined. Not to mention all the other muscles like stomach and back and calves, etc that would be engaged while biking or running.

3. Poor calorie expenditure calculations will lead to overeating and weight gain. This study (and others, probably) show that people overestimate the calories they burn and underestimate the calories they eat. In fact, people in the study (in a laboratory setting) ate 2x to 3x more calories than they thought they burned!

Next I'm going to show you some of my rides for comparison:

*John's Ride -*

**19.7**miles at**8.8**mph and**354**ft of elevation gain.**1,374**caloriesMy Ride 1 -

**39.5**miles at

**11.3**mph and

**0**ft of elevation gain.

**1,042**calories

I rode 2x as far as John at 1.3x the average speed and -354 elevation gain, but "burned" 332 fewer calories. He's a quad, I'm a para for whatever that's worth. I guess it's possible, but I don't really believe it.

My Ride 2 -

**30.6**miles at

**9.5**mph and

**1,072**ft of elevation gain.

**751**calories

Ten miles less than My Ride 1, sure. But +1000 feet of climbing and 300 fewer calories burned?

My Ride 3 -

**100.9**miles at

**11.5**mph and

**1,952**ft of elevation gain.

**3193**calories

Relative to My Ride 1 it's 2.5x the miles at 1x the speed and 3x the elevation and I burned 3x the calories.

Relative to My Ride 2 it's 3.3x the miles at 1.2x the speed and 4.2x the elevation and I burned 4.2x the calories.

Relative to John's ride it's

__5.1__x the miles at

__1.3__x the speed and

__5.5__x the elevation and I burned

__only 2.3x the calories__.

John's on Garmin and I'm on Strava and that just shows how different calculations can be between companies. I guess the caloric burn

*might*be useable as a

__RELATIVE__measurement between rides tracked on the same software, but I still don't trust the accuracy or absolute numbers.

Also, Disclaimer: I did not have a heart rate monitor connected for any of my rides and John did for his. I have no idea what difference that makes

In summary, I'm not a medical professional, but these numbers don't make sense to me. Combined with the variables of how caloric expenditure is calculated, I don't trust ANY kind of exercise calorie counter and I suggest that you don't either. I don't believe it's accurate and overestimation can lead to weight gain.

Can any of the nurses weigh in?

Can any of the nurses weigh in?

I'm happy to be wrong about all of this, I just need facts and data showing otherwise. Does anyone have info about how SCI burn calories relative to ABs?

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