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    A fast-emerging body of scientific evidence points to a conclusion that's unsettling, to say the least, for a lot of older athletes: Running can take a toll on the heart that essentially eliminates the benefits of exercise.

    Read the rest of the Wall Street Journal article:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...264024472.html
    You will find a guide to preserving shoulder function @
    http://www.rstce.pitt.edu/RSTCE_Reso...imb_Injury.pdf

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  • #2
    If I am ever able to; I am going to happily run myself to death.

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    • #3
      I second that MFlounlacker!!

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      • #4
        My motto before and after I was cut down by SCI:
        'some is good, more is better, and too much is just right'.

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        • #5
          Interesting article. Thanks.

          I used to be in the "too much is just right" crowd. In fact I was usually leading it, and I would have certainly expressed the happy thought to run myself to death if I had thought of it. But a few knocks along the recent path have helped me see more wisdom in "all things in moderation".
          T4 complete, 150 ft fall, 1966. Completely fused hips, partially fused knees and spine, heterotopic ossification. Unsuccessful DREZ surgery about 1990. Successful bladder augmentation using small intestine about 1992. Normal SCI IC UTI problems culminating in a hospital stay in 2001. No antibiotics or doctor visits for UTI since 2001: d-mannose. Your mileage may vary.

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          • #6
            I wonder if this applies to handcycling too, I was hoping to start doing 25 miles a day again
            "Life is about how you
            respond to not only the
            challenges you're dealt but
            the challenges you seek...If
            you have no goals, no
            mountains to climb, your
            soul dies".~Liz Fordred

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Curt Leatherbee View Post
              I wonder if this applies to handcycling too, I was hoping to start doing 25 miles a day again
              I think so. They are both cardiovascular exercise. What I got out of the paper was that at this time moderation is the safe side.
              I have had periodic paralysis all my life. I lost my ability to walk in 2011 beginning with a spinal block, which was used for a hip fracture caused by periodic paralysis.

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              • #8
                The article actually says too much very intensive exercise. They cite a mile pace of faster than 8 min per mile. That is a very fast training pace for almost all older runners. I was a good runner pre-SCI and I usually trained at an 8:30 pace on long runs. The article also says that a benefit was found for slower paces. My take away is exercise lots but save the long very intense efforts for race day and don't race very often.
                C1/C2 walking quad, SCI from 4/2010

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                • #9
                  Bring it.
                  I'd rather have as much fun as possible while I'm here, I'm not that attached to this chair.
                  Steve Garro. www.coconinocycles.blogspot.com

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                  • #10
                    I'm way more concerned about waring out my shoulders, then my heart. Without the use of ones big leg muscles, its hard to imagine that this applies to us.
                    T12L1 Incomplete Still here This is the place to be 58 years old

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                    • #11
                      Good to hear my father has some company.

                      My father enjoys his weight training. My brother said to him.... "You never go half-hog do you...? Always full-hog....."

                      My father repeats that phrase a lot.

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                      • #12
                        Running also causes a lot of impact on the body that one wouldn't experience doing handcycling. While the article didn't talk too much about the impact of running, too much impact with not enough recovery causes tissue breakdown throughout the body which can also negatively effect the heart. Handcycling will not cause the same impact stress on the body as running.

                        hlh, I am like your dad in that I prefer to get my cardio through weightlifting!

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                        • #13
                          The study dealt with heart issues. The kind of activity is not particularly relevant. There are a lot of runners and they are a convenient population to study. What the findings imply is that keeping the heart rate up for extended periods on a regular basis when a person is in late middle age may damage the cardiovascular system.

                          Handcycling may have the potential to do that. I do not know what effect it has on the heart rate of people training to race.

                          As others have alluded to, I have more concern on handcycling's impact on shoulders and arm muscles. The wear and tear are very similar to wheeling a manual chair and add to it. Everything in moderation seems like a good policy if you can figure out what moderation is.

                          A couple of days ago I aggravated one of my blown out shoulders just opening a bottle of wine. Arrrgh! To add insult to injury the wine is mediocre at best. But it is a red and drinking red wine regularly is part of my cardiovascular system care program. lol
                          You will find a guide to preserving shoulder function @
                          http://www.rstce.pitt.edu/RSTCE_Reso...imb_Injury.pdf

                          See my personal webpage @
                          http://cccforum55.freehostia.com/

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by steve garro View Post
                            Bring it.
                            I'd rather have as much fun as possible while I'm here, I'm not that attached to this chair.
                            Ditto, 'bro.

                            Did 4 hours hard paddling in Lake Tahoe today.

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                            • #15
                              My arms are my legs I like workout's ...
                              Over the year's I wore my left shoulder up / probably could use repair surgery but I get on my butterfly hydraulic machine and sometimes go a hour straight . still I do tas many of these Reps to keep up a healthy cardiovascular heart rate ...
                              I sip Fresh bottled water or a 32 oz of Gatorade
                              The other day I was in a store no concrete wheelchair ramp I actually pushed myself into a kool jump to the parking lot . I am working super hard @ it I do not get nervous
                              It has taken me years to get this far and I just am a workaholic ( PerSay )

                              Last Week I noticed in a really super big enormous parking lot that had a horrible down grate angle I was bored and rolled around having lot's of fun This is my goofy style of what I call a workout ... Very Cardio related ...

                              Sometimes I can push my wheelchair pretty far now and sometimes even push myself up over curbs in bad parking areas I couldnt do these wheelie thing's without my determination .
                              Sometimes like in a Dr office waiting a good hour or so ppl see me sitting motionless reading a magazine just on a wheelie .
                              At the night lol My poor shoulders pay for it but I will not Give up ...

                              BTW I am now using Lyrica it does help me ...

                              A good Heartrate feels soo good .

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