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    For a while, I know many well read SCI's have been investigating experimenting with HGH and also testing their current testosterone levels. I was wondering if anyone has any recommendations on how to go about finding ways for health insurance to supplement hormones.

    Typically, does testosterone come as a patch or gel? What is considered a low dose? Has anyone here found methods to maximize muscle recovery using hormones? I'm all ears.
    Last edited by Chaz19; 07-22-2010, 08:23 AM.

  • #2
    yup ins pays for test, inj is best
    Bike-on.com rep
    John@bike-on.com
    c4/5 inc funtioning c6. 28 yrs post.
    sponsored handcycle racer

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    • #3
      Chaz19,
      I just completed a year study at the kessler institute in New Jersey with the testosterone patches. I was on two patches a day containing 24.3 mg of Testosterone. It really helped me out 100%. It increased muscle mass, lost body fat and also decreased my nerve pain. I can't tell you how great I felt on it. I was always very alert and felt energized. I have been off of the patches almost a month and notice a difference in energy levels. I fatigue a lot faster not being on the patches. I would get your levels checked and if you are low get on the patches or injectables. I was told they are a lot less expensive than the patches. If you have any questions, feel free to email me at joemonte@nep.net.

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      • #4
        Thanks so much Joe. It is good to hear first-hand. Any side effects at all?

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        • #5
          only side effect for me isd insane sex drive
          Bike-on.com rep
          John@bike-on.com
          c4/5 inc funtioning c6. 28 yrs post.
          sponsored handcycle racer

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          • #6
            Chaz,
            I had no side effects at all. They keep on eye on your PSA levels and all blood work a few times a year. I had no changes. The only side effect I heard of was some swelling in the legs. Again, I had none. I am active and like to keep in shape. Maybe that has something to do with side effects based on your lifestyle. Anyway, everything was positive. I wish it did effect my sex drive. Mentally everything is working great . Physically, its another story. The intent of the study is for body mass, fat loss and fatique. It did help me for nerve pain too. I wish the very best.

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            • #7
              one thing, if your inc it will make your legs spsm hard, which i like.
              Bike-on.com rep
              John@bike-on.com
              c4/5 inc funtioning c6. 28 yrs post.
              sponsored handcycle racer

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              • #8
                Originally posted by fuentejps View Post
                only side effect for me isd insane sex drive
                How are you behind the wheel? Any road rage issues?
                stephen@bike-on.com

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                • #9
                  I've been thinking about this. more energy sounds good. less nerve pain sounds fan-fucking-tastic. more leg spasms then I have now might push me over the brink. is there an injury level commonly associated with testosterone loss, or is it an across the board kinda thing? - Garro.
                  Steve Garro. www.coconinocycles.blogspot.com

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                  • #10
                    I have also wondered about Testosterone and HGH supplementation.
                    T-7 Para
                    Injury Date April 8,2003

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by stephen212 View Post
                      How are you behind the wheel? Any road rage issues?
                      Pharmacist, C4-5 injury but functional C6 (no triceps/flexors)

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                      • #12
                        Steve,
                        A lot of the guys on the study have shown major improvements in energy levels, strength, fat loss. I was happy my stabbing pains went away. I still have nerve pain but not as strong as it was. Plus I quit taking four different medications while on the patches. That was a win for me. I feel like a million bucks being off of Neurotin and lyrica, cymbalta and decreased my hydrocodone. The study is showing many positive results in spinal cord candidates. They do have a control group that is not injured and I believe some of the group is on a placebo. Watson Pharmaceuticals is conducting this study with Kessler in New Jersey. If any of you are close to their, it is worth looking into. I am really interested in HGH. I have a friend who is using it and he told me it gives you a new life. He is almost fifty and he feels like he's in his thirties again. I have not had any side effects from the testosterone. Also from talking with people on testosterone, the patches work much better than the cream. Injectables are supposed to be even better. Good luck to all.

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                        • #13
                          I got really overweight and had really low energy levels with really high pain. The new pain doctor I had started seeing had immediately started checking my testosterone levels. They were extremely low and since then I've been getting testosterone gel on my back every night. It's from my level back up to normal, my energy level is much better and I've since lost 100 pounds. It's made a dramatic difference in my life and is well worth it.
                          C-5/6, 7-9-2000
                          Scottsdale, AZ

                          Make the best out of today because yesterday is gone and tomorrow may never come. Nobody knows that better than those of us that have almost died from spinal cord injury.

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                          • #14
                            dude i am a c6/7 and lost 65lbs after my injury. i was so malnourished and didnt have much of an appetite ever, usually bad stomach pains and nausea. i suffer from very low blood pressure as well. i use a manual chair.... so i nor drs could figure out why this was. and i think it was bc my immune system took a beating after my injury and after bought upon bought of CDIFF i dont think i ever fully was recovering. even though i would always test normal. so eating and life was tough for a bit.... 2yrs pass and i research a ton of stuff. since we dont actively exercise our legs and entire body we dont produce sufficient testosterone. i was also having a lot of joint damage/pain in my arms etc from overuse and injury. i researched HGH and TEST. i and my physician went over the whole thing with our findings and i opted for the HGH bc my test. lvls were ok and the HGH would also boost them. so in Nov. of 09 i started a daily regimen of one shot to the abdomen with about .065iu (small amount but potent stuff). i did miss days but few times. i did this for 6 months and few days. by the 2nd month i had started to regain appetite and started hemp protein and fiber shakes with milk as well as whey protein with milk. that i found drinking every day along with proper exercise helped me gain muscle and bulk. i felt a pretty dramatic increase in strength, healing and health in general. towards the last two months my blood pressure and energy was getting better/more stable. my muscle recovery time was better. i have no bad things to say about my 6 month HGH use, only positive. wish i was still wreaking all the benefits still but the healthy nutrition still helps and is a major factor.... sorry i just rambled my as off hahahaha

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                            • #15
                              I work in a clinic that primarily takes care of HIV + patients. We give Testosterone injections at a dosage of 200-300mg every two weeks. We have noticed the only real side effects are increased hair production. As above keep an eye on your PSA levels and as long as the testosterone levels remain with boundaries we have received reimbursement.

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