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    MFlounlacker, I know what you mean. The question of whether to maintain muscle tone but risk wearing yourself to exhaustion is there for me, too. I still use hiking poles for mobility and it works pretty well for me. However, some days, I need to cross and re-cross my large work building many times. If I need to cart computer equipment, I use my walker. At home, I get around, unaided. I hate to give up any of the mobiliity I've gained, especially since I've seen how easily a person with SCI can lose that gain. However, sometimes I need an additional assist. It's a matter of determining when you are contributing to your strength with lighter aids, or none at all....and when you're doing damage by wearing yourself out. Good luck figuring that one out.

    Today, we planted our annuals. We have a new puppy in the household, so between the contortions of planting and getting up and down to check on the little dog and help her get her lead untangled, I was bushed by 2pm. Had to come inside and sit for awhile...and consume some Cheetos. I had a few moments of sheer frustration with SCI....until a neighbor came by and told me I'd gotten more done than she'd managed and she isn't encumbered by an injury. That's good thing to remember. I still expect the same things of myself as I did before but with a fraction of the strength. Still, I manage to pull it off. I need to learn to go easier with my expectations. It's just dumb to think I can continue at this pace and keep up with the ABs. It's a head game more than a physical game and something I still need to make peace with.

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      Jett what kind of e power did you get? Man I just love my e-powered hand cycle. I can go for a 2.5 hour ride and come home and still do stuff, plus I'm keeping up with my AB friends.
      Truly we went of a 4 hour ride a while back. When I got home I was really tired for the rest of the day. And was still a little tired the next day, thinking man I'm getting old. Today my friends were talking about how tired they were after that long ride, even tired the day after. That makes a person feel good. You know it's not a competition, so its ok to poke along. But I guess that is not in are nature, but something we need to learn.
      T12L1 Incomplete Still here This is the place to be 58 years old

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        I can't believe what a work out sitting on my surf board is. It must flex butt muscles that are weak. After surfing my legs are juiced. The day after is the worst. My hip flexors and abductors are sore after each session. After surfing yesterday I was up and down stairs all day. Felt like I was climbing Everest. I am cooked.

        Truly it is always a fine line we walk. It appears that I have enough energy to work hard and play on the weekend. In order to squeeze in rehab or the gym during the week. I may have to stay in the office more.

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          Flying, It's a kit that comes from Germany. The manufacturer is BMZ, GO_Swiss drive.
          Pete's electric out of Boulder is the dealer we went through.
          BionX was the other system I was considering.
          Hopefully I made the right choice.
          Battery - 36V, 15.3Ahr
          Motor - 500W
          It has a torque sensor that measures the riders input and amplifies the power to the rear wheel.

          The attached picture shows it mocked up on one of ReActive Adaptations demo bikes.
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          1977 - C5 ambulating Quad

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            Wish u had a go pro on that ride so we could see the trail.

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              Jett - that looks really cool. Makes sense tp have that power - still go hard and get the exercise but actually go a little further. I would be all over that system you have got going. Wish I had that for nordic skiing - instead of the slow grind. I am okay with kayak speed since I can go at least as fast as most non athletic ABs and maybe 50% of athletic ones my age ( I barely can say it cause I don't mentally feel it - 58 y/o).
              Dan F - who went faster … you or that turtle? Just a joke, sort of. But that is all I could think of when I saw the turtle. That is about as fast as we go.
              I am back paddling again.
              Later this week doing a two day trip down the Sacramento River south of Redding. Semi urban and way to hot for me - in the 90's - I will melt. Got an AB friend going and Wellman is going as well.

              Truly - you are so full of wisdom about working out, fatigue, just getting stuff done, the brutal fatigue at the end of a day before even trying to exercise. I don't have any answers. I keep trying to hold on to some of it. You young ones - Flounacker - good luck - just don't have huge expectations about getting stronger. You may get a little stronger and a lot more smarter ( triple positive) but I plateaued.

              Will check in after the Sac River paddle later this week… Nice going , y'all !

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                Jett cool system, your shoulders will love you for it. So you went all fancy and integrated, looks neat. So how do you like the torque sensor? That seems like a great system for on the trail where it would really be a pain to adjust the throttle. Those lithium ion battery's last a hell of a long time. Mine have 4 years and who knows how many cycles on them, but at least 500. So glad you joined the E-cycle world. How does it work at supper low speeds on the trail.

                Sure looks neat compared to mine. My system is old motor, hand laced with home made 3 inch spokes, uncontained, loose battery's in ammo boxes, in a home made wood and aluminum trailer, hooked on to my bike with door hinges, with wires and black tape every where. But its a little rocket with a 700W motor, and 20 Ahr 48 volt battery's, which is way more then a person really needs.
                T12L1 Incomplete Still here This is the place to be 58 years old

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                  Arndog- I don't really think I am expecting to get too much stronger. Most of my work outs are more balance related. This is more of an energy problem for me I guess. I don't want to work out just for the sake of working out. I like to do too much stuff on the weekends to wear myself out maxing out on weights in the gym during the week. What good is strength if all you do is lift weights anyway. I guess we all face the choice. Live or rehab. I could always strike a balance, but now with doing more and more at work, that balance is getting harder to find. Time for a bike ride.

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                    Steve Garro. www.coconinocycles.blogspot.com

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ID:	2657771Trails good too, I have to totally strip down my hand cycle, it's just shot, all of it.
                      Steve Garro. www.coconinocycles.blogspot.com

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                        The picture of your girlfriend is the prettiest picture you've posted. Good job.
                        C1/C2 walking quad, SCI from 4/2010

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                          That ain't no GF. That is the MRS. Garro is one lucky cat.

                          I just got back yesterday from Sea Kayaking the Sacramento River - Redding Ca to Chico Ca . Class one rapids which were a blast in a 17 ft sea kayak. Just point down river and power it through. Did 61 river miles day one - nine hours paddle. Camped on the river's edge. Current varied from 2 mph to 9 mph. Next day did 39 miles by noon. That is 100 miles in 1.5 long hard days. My hip flexors were so weak I was hardly able to sit up but me and an AB friend were psyched to get the 100 miles of river in. This was one of the harder things I've done as a crip. He helped a lot getting stuff from the car to the boat as well as the boat to the car at the end. I kept the Fetterman crutches in the hatch due to the white water. It is hard paddling without any contact with foot pegs - it is all upper body. I was glad my AB friend admitted he was tired afterwards.

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                            Originally posted by arndog View Post
                            That ain't no GF. That is the MRS. Garro is one lucky cat.

                            It is hard paddling without any contact with foot pegs - it is all upper body. I was glad my AB friend admitted he was tired afterwards.
                            Hell yeah, she's my better 2/3rds!

                            Did I show you what I did with my single kayak, where I put in the diamond plate foot plate?
                            It mounts to the pegs and provides a kayak-wide foot platform with plenty of purchase & low weight.
                            You go with Glen?
                            Me & D. could rock that in the big-ass tandem…...
                            Steve Garro. www.coconinocycles.blogspot.com

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                              Our local Adaptive Sports Program is starting up their weekly mountain bike rides again this season.
                              We went back out to the Forbidden Fruit trail for the first ride. Brought along my helmet cam this time.
                              Pat D. drove up and rode with us. Pat's always a blast to have around!
                              Could have done without the half hour long down pour but, other than that it was a great time!

                              Hope the group is healed up and getting to the outdoors!


                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUwcIqusdBU
                              1977 - C5 ambulating Quad

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                                Jett great to see that you are putting your new system to good use, way to go. It really looks like you are moving fast, going up the hill part. I think you made the right chose buying a real solid system, it looks like a lot less work and more reliable then the DIY kind.

                                I rode for 5 hours today, and I'm really spent. I have been doing a lot of work around my house, which is a great workout for the trunk muscles. Greasing my backhoe in a wheel chair is no small task that's for sure.
                                T12L1 Incomplete Still here This is the place to be 58 years old

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