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    Don't buy an Invacare Storm TDX

    My Storm TDX is a comfortable chair and great for indoors, but don't go outside in it. This chair has no traction on uneven or wet surfaces. It's sad when the chair won't even go up a wet (yes wet, not snow or ice covered) curb cut. There you are, left hanging in the roadway because this sorry chair was engineered poorly. And forget about making any kind of a turn while going through and stones or dirt. Once all of the supporting four casters turn, the drive wheels can't overcome the resistance and there you sit again. My provider has tried to adjust the casters, but with negative results.

    The chair does have good power and torque and is excellant on dry, flat surfaces.

    If anyone has a TDX and knows how to adjust this thing PLEASE let me know. Or if anyone has any idea on where I can store a tow-rope (haha) on this chair that would be good too.
    Dave

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    Did you ever get the TDX to perform better on wet surfaces? Is it the design itself or just a matter of proper adjustments?

    I'm reconsidering my decision to go w/a Blast 850 (rear-wheel drive) because it may be too big to maneuver through some tight turns in my new place. I understand that mid-wheel drive chairs are much easier to maneuver, and I assume the TDX5 is top of the line mid-wheel at Invacare. I do a fair amount of travel on city streets, however, and I don't want to get hung up on something as minor as a wet curb cut.

    By the way, how much easier is it to negotiate tight turns in the TDX than it is in a rear-wheel drive? I've been condo-shopping in my P-200, which is a pretty small chair that turns on a dime. Is it fair to assume that the TDX will be able to handle turns that my P-200 can't?

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      #3
      My Invacare Storm TDX 5 is great! I live in northern Alberta, Canada and mine is awesome outside. Where I live I am 4 miles from the nearest pavement and that is a highway and the Storm TDX seems to handle it very well. Going thru snow is a breeze. All I have to do is tilt my chair back a bit and I'm a full blown 4 x 4 . I haven't made any adjustments to it since I bought it. Maybe I drive it differently, because most of the time I drive it like I stole it .

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        #4
        My TDX 5 is very good, just stay off of wet grass/mud or you will be grounded. No extra torque, no matter what setting.

        To date I have had no issues with light snow.

        J.
        And the truth shall set you free.

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          #5
          Originally posted by MZack
          Did you ever get the TDX to perform better on wet surfaces? Is it the design itself or just a matter of proper adjustments?

          I'm reconsidering my decision to go w/a Blast 850 (rear-wheel drive) because it may be too big to maneuver through some tight turns in my new place. I understand that mid-wheel drive chairs are much easier to maneuver, and I assume the TDX5 is top of the line mid-wheel at Invacare. I do a fair amount of travel on city streets, however, and I don't want to get hung up on something as minor as a wet curb cut.

          By the way, how much easier is it to negotiate tight turns in the TDX than it is in a rear-wheel drive? I've been condo-shopping in my P-200, which is a pretty small chair that turns on a dime. Is it fair to assume that the TDX will be able to handle turns that my P-200 can't?
          I have a TDX5 and am very pleased with it (after I reprogrammed it, of course). The TDX will "turn on a dime" (any CWD chair will) and plenty of tourque. If you're interested in CWD chairs then take a look at the TDX5. Another possibility is a new chair from Quantum Rehab, the Q6 http://www.pridemobility.com/quantum/. I saw it at MedTrade today and it looks pretty impressive (I also saw the latest TDX5 and was also impressed ). Good luck and make sure you purchase a programmer no matter what chair you buy .

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            #6
            I unfortunately have had similar problems with the TDX3. I was talked into it, as all I needed was a new seating system for my old rear wheel drive. I find that it is great indoor with a really good radius of turn. But outside, it is a total pain in the butt! I get stuck easily and now if I am going to do any serious outside stuff, I get transferred to my rear wheel drive. I then can do my outdoor stuff and do fine.
            Disability is not a medical problem with social issues, but rather a social problem with medical issues.
            Franklin D. Rosevelt

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              #7
              Originally posted by Davey
              Good luck and make sure you purchase a programmer no matter what chair you buy .
              Thanks for the reply. Can you tell me more about the programmer -- like what it does and why I need one...?

              Thanks

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                #8
                Originally posted by MZack
                Thanks for the reply. Can you tell me more about the programmer -- like what it does and why I need one...?
                The programmer is usually a small unit that plugs into a port on the wheelchair to adjust all the settings that define how your wheelchair drives. On the TDX5 it plugs into the same port you plug in your charger. It's just a serial terminal that communicates with the powerchair controller and costs about $250. It's been my experience that every chair that comes from the manufacturer is setup horribly. When I first get a chair I can hardly drive it -- no torque, "rubber-band" steering, sluggish acceleration, etc. A few minutes with the controller and it's like a different chair. I suspect that some complaints are a result from poor programming.

                You can also program how the tilt system works. For example, I have drive 1 & 3 setup to drive with the same parameters that I've found work well for me. I setup drive 2 & 4 to be "no-drive" modes that control the tilt system. So instead of waiting for the controller to go into some wait mode or having to hit a reset switch to activate the tilt, I just push the drive select button once to toggle from drive->tilt->drive->tilt, etc.

                I think a programmer should be provided with the cost of the chair, but they're not. Until then, if possible, everyone should get one -- you won't be sorry .

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                  #9
                  I'm also looking at a TDX5, so this thread is a great help.
                  Alan

                  Proofread carefully to see if you any words out.

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                    #10
                    Performance Adjustments

                    I am posting a scan of the performance ajustments for my Invacare RangerX with MKV electronics. I think the TDX5 has the same electronics. Anyway TDX5 should have similar adjustments for each mode on the joystick. Hope this may be of some help. I had to take my chair to the dealer for programing. I would like to know how to get a programmer of my own. They seem to be reluctant to let owners of the chair have one.
                    Last edited by Spadfan; 21 Oct 2005, 12:26 AM.
                    William M.
                    T 6/7 Complete - 4/20/74

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Spadfan
                      I had to take my chair to the dealer for programing. I would like to know how to get a programmer of my own. They seem to be reluctant to let owners of the chair have one.
                      Yes, they are reluctant to let you know about it, but if you scream loud enough they should sell you one. They are afraid you will mess it up and they will have to fix it. There is a remote possibility that it may happen, but I thought that's what their hourly rate was for . If they just refuse to sell you one keep trying Invacare dealers until you find one that will sell it to you. The part is listed on the TDX5 parts website. It's called "Remote Programmer", part number 1109091 for $225.75 MSRP.

                      HTH,
                      David

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                        #12
                        Just as an FYI I've attached my current settings for the 4 drive modes in case anyone is interested. It shows the possible items that you can change and how I've got them set that seems to work for me.

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                          #13
                          I just saw that my old thread re: the TDX was brought back to life! I have to be fair to this chair. Since January when I first posted, this chair has proved itself to me. It's fantastic inside and pretty decent outside. After a few reprogramming trips to the DME the chair is doing much better. I have drive 1 set as a good all around indoor chair. Drive 2 is all speed with med torque and drivw 3 is all torque with med speed. Drive 4 is my tilt.

                          The chair will get stuck in the dirt and stones if you try to reverse in a straight line after stopping forward movement. I've learned to make a very small circle instead of backing. The chair performs much better then.

                          The only problem I've had to date is a loose battery cable and a blown charger. My tires need to be replaced, they now have 14 months of usage on them.

                          I have to say, I like the chair and I treat this thing harshly.

                          Dave
                          Dave

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                            #14
                            Spadfan I can sell you a programer.... give me your email

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                              #15
                              Looks like I'll be getting a TDX - a TDX3 with the TrueTrack option, and tilt. I'm working on the programmer.
                              Alan

                              Proofread carefully to see if you any words out.

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