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    TiLite ZRA Owners, need opinions?

    I went to try out a ZRA today. The only demo that they had was way to small for me, but I got in it anyway.

    One of the problem I have with my current chair, a TRa, are the front casters keep coming lose. Also, I'm unable to get this chair into a regular car, but the ZRA was easy.

    I looked closly at the front casters of the ZRA, and it looks like it will have the same problem of coming lose and having to readjust them. I was hoping they'd have a fixed caster option, but it doesn't look that way.

    For now I've dicided to go with some modifications to my TRa. I'm going to get a smaller back, and have the push handles removed. Also, I'm going to replace the brakes with the scissor type, because I've scraped my wrist one too many times when going up a curb. They're also going to install some sort of seat insert that was supposed to have been installed when I first got the chair. It never was installed, and I didn't know anything about it.

    If you've got a ZRA, overall how do you like it? Have you had any problems with the front casters coming lose, or any other problems.

    The dealer said he only has two customers with the ZRA, which they haven't had them very long, and haven't given him any feedback on the chair yet. He said he hears alot of complaints about the casters on the TRa though.

    Maybe they'll make a ZR, with fixed position casters. I was originally looking at a TR, until I saw the ZRA.

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    #2
    Thanks for the tip about the casters, I will have to check them out on my TRA.

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      #3
      jimnms,

      You may want to look into getting some "Frogleg" casters. This solved my problem.

      I'm not sure if there's a dedicated website but I think you can get them @
      www.sports-n-spokes.com

      Hopefully that link works.

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        #4
        Hi jim

        Could you expand a little on what you mean by the casters coming loose?
        I've almost decided to get the ZRA, but I'd like to know what you mean by the casters not being rigid, or why they come loose.
        Thanks much, take care.

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          #5
          It's hard to describe, I had my camera with me, but I forgot to take pics.

          The way it adjusts, it's like a clamp looking thing. You tighten a screw and it clams down on the part that moves for adjustments. If that screw comes lose, then the caster will tilt.

          I have no need for adjustable casters, and don't see why I'd ever need to. I wish they'd just have fixed casters like on the TR.

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            #6
            Originally posted by jimnms:


            I have no need for adjustable casters, and don't see why I'd ever need to. I wish they'd just have fixed casters like on the TR.
            I think that adjustment is for tracking of the chair. When I got mine it had to be adjusted there because it pulled to one side. It still sort of pulls slightly (arrgh), but I got used to it so it is staying that way. Yeah, I wish my TRA also had TR style caster attachment, that adjustable thing looks cobbled together. Maybe I will buy a TR frame and transfer the parts over from my chair, hmmm.

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              #7
              Originally posted by jimnms:

              It's hard to describe, I had my camera with me, but I forgot to take pics.

              The way it adjusts, it's like a clamp looking thing. You tighten a screw and it clams down on the part that moves for adjustments. If that screw comes lose, then the caster will tilt.
              I have mine handy. If you loosen the two screws visible in the photo, the caster tilts relative to the frame.

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                #8
                Originally posted by *Andy*:

                I think that adjustment is for tracking of the chair. When I got mine it had to be adjusted there because it pulled to one side. It still sort of pulls slightly (arrgh), but I got used to it so it is staying that way. Yeah, I wish my TRA also had TR style caster attachment, that adjustable thing looks cobbled together. Maybe I will buy a TR frame and transfer the parts over from my chair, hmmm.
                While I was in the ZRA I asked the guy to straighten the casters. He said the proper position is to have the flat part perpendicular to the floor. He had a plastic thing that he laid against it to make sure it was in the right position before tightinging it.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by *Andy*:


                  I have mine handy. If you loosen the two screws visible in the photo, the caster tilts relative to the frame.
                  He was asking how they are on the ZRA, they are different on the ZRA. Here's a cutout from the diagram on the ZRA order form I downloaded from there website:



                  They way it looks, you losten the lock nut, the whole caster rotates inside that round part.

                  At least with the TRA, there's a screw there to keep it from rotating too far, and you can still roll around. But the way it looks on the ZRA, if it came lose, the caster would rotate all the way up, and the foot rest would hit the floor. Then you'd be stuck.

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                    #10
                    Jim, thanks for pointing that out...I too am about to trial a ZRA and I can what would happen if those screws loosened. I am going to check with the dealer bout it. I too had decided that chair was the way to go if i liked the trial chair.

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                      #11
                      Thanks you guys.
                      I'm wondering about getting the ZRA now. That's a flimFlam way to set up casters if you ask me...I'm looking at the Quickie Titanium GPV now to see how it compares with the ZRA.
                      Thanks again

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                        #12
                        I did look at a Quckie Ti too. The casters don't look like they'll have a problem coming lose, but they are a pain in the arse if you do have to adjust them. You have to remove the wheel to get to the screw. I didn't like the Quickie Ti, the metal tubing was smaller, and the frame felt flimsy. You could feel it flexing when you were on uneven ground.

                        Originally posted by rdf:

                        Thanks you guys.
                        I'm wondering about getting the ZRA now. That's a flimFlam way to set up casters if you ask me...I'm looking at the Quickie Titanium GPV now to see how it compares with the ZRA.
                        Thanks again

                        -Bob
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                        • #13
                          Jim, if I understood right, you've physically seen the ZRA. I've looked at photos of both the TRA and ZRA and I'd like to know what kind of hell your putting your chair through to have them come loose. Do you mean loose from the frame or loose within the castor barrel? My Tilite has the same style mounting as what Andy shows with his froglegs, and being an engineer, I've physically pounded them with a hammer and couldn't get them to budge.

                          Also, as a sidenote. What kind of sales pitch did you guys receive with the froglegs to sell you on the idea, especially on a titanium framed chair? [img]/forum/images/smilies/confused.gif[/img]

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Stratman:

                            Also, as a sidenote. What kind of sales pitch did you guys receive with the froglegs to sell you on the idea, especially on a titanium framed chair? [img]/forum/images/smilies/confused.gif[/img]
                            No sales pitch, just checked off every option available for the chair when I was ordering it in rehab. Didnt know any different, and if someone else is paying for it, why not get it? Of course I have a nice pile of parts that are no longer part of the chair now, but hey, its not my loss [img]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/img] If anything they look pretty nice.

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                              #15
                              I just used demos of the Quickie Ti Titanium and the TiLite ZRA. Ultimately, I decided to get the TiLite ZRA for several reasons. I have had the chair for two weeks now and am quite pleased with my decision. Although the Quickie Ti a couple pounds lighter than the ZRA it is fabricated with much narrower tubing making it very flexible, almost flimsy. Conversely, the ZRA is constructed with oversized titanium tubing making it very rigid. Furthermore, the welds are superior to those of the Quickie Ti. A few days after I got the chair, the casters began to loosen. I tightened them up twice on my own before going to the dealer to have them adjust and apply lock-tite which has solved that problem. I'm fairly tough on the chair--going down stairs, ramming into curbs, etc. You can read my other review of these chairs in the Life section.

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