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    overlays?

    My newish sleep number m7 is making my tailbone pink. I'm thinking of getting an overlay. I take it Roho is best for old timers with a bony butt? They have 3. Any recommendation? I'm guessing the only difference is the number of cells? Is the Sofflex sufficient? https://www.pressuresorecushions.com...ons/mattresses
    Last edited by leschinsky; 30 Jan 2023, 9:53 PM.
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    Been using Roho Prodigy for 3yrs+. It's good, although it starting to have small punctured leaks. Just don't get those pump machine(not Roho ones), they hardly last a year for me.
    Last edited by Ty21; 30 Jan 2023, 11:55 PM.
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      #3
      Sorry to hijack your post, but I think it's relevant information for you too. Have anyone tried https://www.apollo-ht.co.uk/product/memo-form-plus ? I'm thinking of getting a "non-air" type of mattress.

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      • Ty21
        #3.2
        Ty21 commented
        31 Jan 2023, 7:35 AM
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        Thanks SCI-Nurse for the info. From your knowledge, which one you think is better for pressure? Roho air type or Apollo memory foam?
      • SCI-Nurse
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        SCI-Nurse commented
        31 Jan 2023, 11:22 AM
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        If you need the best pressure reduction, I would go with the Roho. (KLD)
      • Ty21
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        Ty21 commented
        31 Jan 2023, 12:43 PM
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        Thanks a lot.
      #4
      Originally posted by leschinsky View Post
      My newish sleep number m7 is making my tailbone pink. I'm thinking of getting an overlay. I take it Roho is best for old timers with a bony butt? They have 3. Any recommendation? I'm guessing the only difference is the number of cells? Is the Sofflex sufficient? https://www.pressuresorecushions.com...ons/mattresses
      In my experience, it is better to get a good quality pressure reducing mattress instead of an overlay, although overlays can be useful for travel.

      Most overlays make your mattress top surface higher which may be a problem for some transferring into bed. In addition, you may need to use their own proprietary​ cover instead of a sheet to get the best results. Roho makes 3 different overlays. Note that the warranty on the cheaper ones is much less than on the dry floatation system: https://www.permobil.com/en-us/produ...overlay-system

      Powered alternating pressure overlays are pretty much worthless.

      (KLD)
      The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.
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        #5
        Originally posted by SCI-Nurse View Post

        In my experience, it is better to get a good quality pressure reducing mattress instead of an overlay, although overlays can be useful for travel.

        Most overlays make your mattress top surface higher which may be a problem for some transferring into bed. In addition, you may need to use their own proprietary​ cover instead of a sheet to get the best results. Roho makes 3 different overlays. Note that the warranty on the cheaper ones is much less than on the dry floatation system: https://www.permobil.com/en-us/produ...overlay-system

        Powered alternating pressure overlays are pretty much worthless.

        (KLD)
        Which mattresses would you recommend? I bought in July the $3000. sleep # memory foam one that I thought was a good one. I dont know where to go from here, buying a $2000. roho on top seems crazy. I was hoping the $1000. Roho Sofflex would be good. Do you have any experience with it?
        Last edited by leschinsky; 2 Feb 2023, 6:33 PM.
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        • SCI-Nurse
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          SCI-Nurse commented
          1 Feb 2023, 2:05 AM
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          I have never recommended Sleep Number mattresses. When I was working, the VP of the company refused to release their interface pressure studies to me, as do all medical pressure reducing mattress companies. Look at mattresses from Joerns or SpanAmerica. (KLD)
        #6
        Originally posted by SCI-Nurse View Post


        (KLD)
        I have never recommended Sleep Number mattresses. When I was working, the VP of the company refused to release their interface pressure studies to me, as do all medical pressure reducing mattress companies. Look at mattresses from Joerns or SpanAmerica. (KLD)​
        thank you there are a lot of different models. i dont want to make another mistake, which models of those brands have you had good experiences with?
        Last edited by leschinsky; 3 Feb 2023, 12:51 AM.
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          #7
          For non-powered mattresses, I would consider these:

          https://www.joerns.com/products/prevamatt-series/

          http://www.spanamerica.com/prevention.php

          (KLD)
          The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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            #8
            Originally posted by SCI-Nurse View Post
            For non-powered mattresses, I would consider these:

            https://www.joerns.com/products/prevamatt-series/

            http://www.spanamerica.com/prevention.php

            (KLD)
            Yes thanks, wouldnt these models be better for pressure reduction? But using the static mode not alternating pressure.
            https://www.joerns.com/wp-content/up...ttBrochure.pdf
            http://www.spanamerica.com/custom-care.php
            Last edited by leschinsky; 3 Feb 2023, 9:17 PM.
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              #9
              Better yes, but also much more expensive, and powered ones don't have battery back-up in case of a power outage. The ones I listed are mainline prevention products. The two you listed are on the border of prevention and treatment of pressure injuries.

              (KLD)
              The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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                #10
                Originally posted by SCI-Nurse View Post
                Better yes, but also much more expensive, and powered ones don't have battery back-up in case of a power outage The ones I listed are mainline prevention products. The two you listed are on the border of prevention and treatment of pressure injuries.

                (KLD)
                The Span america one is non-powered, the Joerns it seems you can use it either way so shouldnt it be not too bad if I lose power? Not like with an all air mattress? $1,200 is not too expensive to me for something so important but the Joerns one is $2,200. Do you know if the extra $1000. for the Joerns is worth it?


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                • SCI-Nurse
                  #10.1
                  SCI-Nurse commented
                  5 Feb 2023, 1:33 AM
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                  When I was working we used almost exclusively Joerns products. (KLD)
                #11
                The Promatt made the sore worse. I have an open wound. And pink trochanters. A Tempuredic overlay didnt help much. I obviously need an air mattress of some kind. One for bony butted old timers. And we lose power a handful of times a year so preferably one with a back up battery. What are my options?

                And why does the sore area get bright pink everytime I sleep on my stomach?? It isnt the blankets. It just makes no sense. And the wound clinic doesnt believe me. I guess I wouldnt either. Could the skin be stretching to tight or something/ so confused.
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                • SCI-Nurse
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                  SCI-Nurse commented
                  12 May 2023, 12:37 AM
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                  Yes, it sounds like you need a full depth low air loss (LAL) mattress. No overlay. If your trochanters get red when prone, you must be very skinny, as only if they touch the mattress would that cause redness in that position. (KLD)
                #12
                My trochanters are pink from sleeping on my side. My tailbone gets bright pink when I sleep prone which I dont understand.

                Any recommendations on LAL mattresses?
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                  #13
                  Hi
                  you an check out this website from Craig Hospital in Denver CO

                  https://craighospital.org/resources/...d-and-mattress

                  it depends on whether the mattress you are looking for is for a hospital bed or another type/size

                  SCI-Nursepbr

                  The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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                    #14
                    Originally posted by SCI-Nurse View Post
                    For non-powered mattresses, I would consider these:

                    https://www.joerns.com/products/prevamatt-series/

                    http://www.spanamerica.com/prevention.php

                    (KLD)
                    How do these compare to tempur-pedic mattresses in terms of pressure relief?

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                      #15
                      Originally posted by SCI-Nurse View Post
                      Hi
                      you an check out this website from Craig Hospital in Denver CO

                      https://craighospital.org/resources/...d-and-mattress

                      it depends on whether the mattress you are looking for is for a hospital bed or another type/size

                      SCI-Nursepbr
                      i HAVE A FULL ELECTRIC HOSP bed. Are the Fluid mattresses better than LAL? Are all LAL pretty alike? I cant make another wrong choice or something that requires breaking in. This is tough.
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