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    Just want impressions on vehicle. Considering that vehicle. How is the ride and handling? Anything I should be aware of?

  • #2
    We are looking at a Pacifica also but I heard there is a head room issue with the Pacifica being 3 inches less than the Toyota. I'll be following this post since we still like the look of the Pacifica over the other options. Bruce

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    • #3
      I have a nine-year-old Braun Honda Odyssey with only 18,000 miles on it and immaculately maintained. However, I feel I have had an inordinate amount of problems, some of which thankfully have occurred at my home. Had it occurred elsewhere, I would've been in serious trouble (C6 power chair user).

      I am lacking confidence in my present vehicle and my local dealer has offered me the same two Braun choices, sienna versus Pacifica. The new Hondas are way too low in headroom. I am not overly tall and sit in a Permobil F3, which is a good 2 inches higher in seat to floor height then my Permobil C300. My dealer does not offer any other conversions than Braun.

      I use low effort steering and braking and my Pacifica package is priced at 66K and the sienna package 64K, including 13,000 for my Odyssey as trade in. Both very expensive, though not surprising.

      Depending if you are driving, if you're a quad there are other considerations such as gear shifting and other controls. If you're just being transported these issues may be of less importance. Then your primary issue would be headroom, and that's a pretty straightforward factor depending upon your height at highest point.

      Emotionally, I can't see getting rid of a beautiful, rust free, low mileage well-maintained vehicle so soon. I keep my vehicles a long time. But my confidence in the vehicle is lacking. I actually have low-level anxiety when I leave the house in it, especially when alone.

      One of them has a 14 inch drop floor, the other 12 inches. This would be of importance if you are tall and need the maximal amount of headroom.

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      • #4
        Just picked up a Pacifica last Monday. The engine light was on and dealer said it was a Chrysler recall. Vhyrsler says it's not so am taking to them Monday to check out. Sure hope it's not the conversion part of the van as that'll entail a drive down to Seattle.

        I have the Braun foldout and not sure about the height difference from the floor to seat compared to my old VMI in floor. Make sure if getting a conversion and using a manual chair to get the adapter to lower the drivers seat to a manageable height to the W/C. Mine came with the seat configured for a powerchair user to use for transfers. It makes ut a bout 4 inches higher. they had to take it back and put the adapter on to lower it. I'm 6'3" and no problems with headroom. I use a manual chair with the ZX1.

        So many doo dads that'll never be used in all the new vans. I'll miss my old turn the seat and transfer in and go. This one takes several steps to allow to transfer into the D. seat.

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        • #5
          Braun makes 2 height options for the Pacifica, if it has built in steps at the front doors it’s an XT or extra tall. No steps it’s less drop/ less headroom. Not sure of the actual difference in inches. Sienna’s only come one way.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bruceofmaui View Post
            We are looking at a Pacifica also but I heard there is a head room issue with the Pacifica being 3 inches less than the Toyota. I'll be following this post since we still like the look of the Pacifica over the other options. Bruce
            I just went and checked out a couple of 2019 Pacifica's. One with a VMI conversion and one with a Braun conversion. I'm in the process of replacing my 2014 Sienna VMI conversion with a in floor ramp. I'm around 56 inches in my Quickie 646SE and I'm a passenger not a driver. First off the room inside the Pacifica is amazing. I had no problem turning around inside it. In my Sienna I have to do a 4 point turn to turn around. The inside headroom was just fine for me in both conversions. Braun has a smoother ride than the VMI. VMI has better ground clearance than Braun. When entering Braun I scraped the top of my head at the door area. I did not with VMI . The sales guy said there is a 1 1/2 to 2 inch difference in that area between the two. I have not had any major issues with my VMI Sienna so I will be going with the VMI Pacifica.
            Hopefully something like this https://www.mobilityworks.com/wheelc...c1bg1kr630035/ or http://www.kerseymobility.com/wheelc...-for-sale/MzAx
            Last edited by HACKNSACK44; 06-22-2019, 05:48 PM.

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            • #7
              The Pacifica L is the least expensive model and can be converted to the braun XT conversion. I was going to buy a touring plus which is several thousand dollars more. For me, I just need to get from point a to point B.

              So there are several pacificas that can be used for conversion in line with your needs and budget.

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              • #8
                I've had my Pacifica for a week. I didn't realize or blanked out about the two heighte; 10 an 14 inch drops. I did the order over the phone trying to avoid a trip to the big city. I know I mentioned I was in a manual but she must have missed that. Ended up with a 14" drop floor. Ramp looks longer than my VMI infloor. I hate the extra 4" drop. Everything is out of reach if I put it on the floor. It was my fault for not being more thorough and should have gone thru the owner with more experience. I trust it'll just be a matter of getting used to the extra steps of raising and lowering the seat height to transfer. Sure rides nice, no noise at all. My infloor 20 year old VMI sounds like a rattle trap over the same road.

                There's been a few recalls on the Pacifica so took it in today for those. One has to do with the wiring harness sdo had to order the parts. The good thing is the service rep. used to build vans back in the day in Warms Springs Georgia. So is good knowing he has the experience to go the extra mile for my van. Also, the van has 6 antennas, mostly for triangulation for the key fob to know if its inside the van or out. With the conversion, the antenna in the center console is taken out with the console. His tech is really good and figures he can rig up a replacement.

                I'm going to miss my old VMI if/when I sell it. Short ramp, turn the seat and transfer, that simple. I went with the S because I wanted leather and the larger wheels.

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                • #9
                  Just FYI, the Pacifica L and LX cannot be used for Braun conversion. The least expensive Pacifica they can be converted by Braun is the Touring Plus and naturally anything more expensive.

                  The LX can be used for a rear entry conversion.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Patrick Madsen View Post
                    I've had my Pacifica for a week. I didn't realize or blanked out about the two heighte; 10 an 14 inch drops. I did the order over the phone trying to avoid a trip to the big city. I know I mentioned I was in a manual but she must have missed that. Ended up with a 14" drop floor. Ramp looks longer than my VMI infloor. I hate the extra 4" drop. Everything is out of reach if I put it on the floor. It was my fault for not being more thorough and should have gone thru the owner with more experience. I trust it'll just be a matter of getting used to the extra steps of raising and lowering the seat height to transfer. Sure rides nice, no noise at all. My infloor 20 year old VMI sounds like a rattle trap over the same road.

                    There's been a few recalls on the Pacifica so took it in today for those. One has to do with the wiring harness sdo had to order the parts. The good thing is the service rep. used to build vans back in the day in Warms Springs Georgia. So is good knowing he has the experience to go the extra mile for my van. Also, the van has 6 antennas, mostly for triangulation for the key fob to know if its inside the van or out. With the conversion, the antenna in the center console is taken out with the console. His tech is really good and figures he can rig up a replacement.

                    I'm going to miss my old VMI if/when I sell it. Short ramp, turn the seat and transfer, that simple. I went with the S because I wanted leather and the larger wheels.
                    So the recalls aren't a big deal on the Pacifica? I'm looking at a VMI 2019.

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                    • #11
                      A deal is tentatively worked out for trading the 14" drop floor Touring S with a 2019 Touring Plus with S package 10" drop floor. Was a lot of frustration but Braun stepped in and assisted in the deal. Was not a fun experience and don't want to get into.

                      The conversion dealer took mine in as the engine light was on when they got it. Their Chrysler dealer said it was a Cooler Dam actuator. When I took it into my Braun dealer, they looked it up and was something to do with remote wiring harness or something like that. The harness has been ordered. If the conversion dealer wishes me to take it in for the recall I have offered to wait until it's completed before driving down to their shop and have them strip the stuff they installed and reinstall into the new 10" drop. The recall process is pretty straight forward and just a matter of taking it in to your Chrysler dealer for recall. I bought mine off the local Chrysler dealership, they delivered it to the conversion dealer who shipped to Braun so it was my responsibility for the recall. I trust if I bought the van from the dealer he would have taken it in for the recall.

                      The 100 or so miles I drove it was really nice. So many doo dads and apps I'm sure I'll never use. Not much difference between the Touring L and Plus. L has leather, roof racks, mud guards. Not sure what else. The S package is the same as the L. We worked out a deal where the dealer will have the cloth seats reupholstered in leather. I drove on a road that is normally like a rattletrap in my old van. With the Pacifica, it was quiet with no noise at all. Almost surreal. Getting used to the gearknob placement didn't take long and is really easy to use. The electronic emergency brake is nifty for those of us who can't use a reg. style.

                      A BIG suggestion for anyone looking at conversions. Make sure you stipulate whether you want a 10" drop or 14" drop. Make sure to use those words. The dealer sent my insurance and myself invoices that said Braun Fold out Ramp, which is the 10" drop. When I got the van it was a 14 and didn't really pick up on it until it was home. The Braun foldout XT is the 14" drop. The owner said he always orders the 14" drop, never sold a 10" drop floor though the `10" I bought was on his lot. So no admitting there was a mistake, apology and offer to make it right. . If they had written Braun XT, I would have notified them right away for a correction. Water under the bridge now. But really, really investigate the equipment and ensure the type of floor drop you want. This mistake cost Braun and myself big bucks to make it right though it wasn't my fault. To me, it was worth it to get this ordeal over with. Nothing worse than having an 83G new van sitting under the carport and not willing to drive it.

                      VMI was recently bought out by a Capitalist investment group and I think they bought Braun also. The vehicle I have had for 20 years is a 2000 Chrysler Limited with VMI infloor. The sliding door got a little finicky but was satisfied with VMI's conversion package. Good Luck Hackensack, I think you'll like the Pacifica with VMI.

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                      • #12
                        Patrick, have you rolled into a 10" drop van? Remember the ramp angle is going to be considerably worse, a couple degrees makes a big difference.

                        But if you're finally getting what you wanted in the first case, congrats on pushing thru the BS to get it.
                        "a T10, who'd Rather be ridin'; than rollin'"

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bruceofmaui View Post
                          We are looking at a Pacifica also but I heard there is a head room issue with the Pacifica being 3 inches less than the Toyota. I'll be following this post since we still like the look of the Pacifica over the other options. Bruce
                          I have the Braun fold-out version of the Pacifica. I do not drive, but sit in the front passenger spot. I use a Permobil F3, and am 6'4, so I sit very high. My previous van was a Braun Sienna. I can say that the Pacifica has more headroom. That is the primary reason I switched.

                          If I had one negative, it is that I don't like how the body sits so high off of the tires. I understand it's likely for ground clearance. My Sienna scraped on everything, this one rarely does.
                          Last edited by landrover; 06-29-2019, 12:17 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by HACKNSACK44 View Post
                            I just went and checked out a couple of 2019 Pacifica's. One with a VMI conversion and one with a Braun conversion. I'm in the process of replacing my 2014 Sienna VMI conversion with a in floor ramp. I'm around 56 inches in my Quickie 646SE and I'm a passenger not a driver. First off the room inside the Pacifica is amazing. I had no problem turning around inside it. In my Sienna I have to do a 4 point turn to turn around. The inside headroom was just fine for me in both conversions. Braun has a smoother ride than the VMI. VMI has better ground clearance than Braun. When entering Braun I scraped the top of my head at the door area. I did not with VMI . The sales guy said there is a 1 1/2 to 2 inch difference in that area between the two. I have not had any major issues with my VMI Sienna so I will be going with the VMI Pacifica.
                            Hopefully something like this https://www.mobilityworks.com/wheelc...c1bg1kr630035/ or http://www.kerseymobility.com/wheelc...-for-sale/MzAx
                            That van is sharp. Love the color combination.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by crags View Post
                              Just FYI, the Pacifica L and LX cannot be used for Braun conversion. The least expensive Pacifica they can be converted by Braun is the Touring Plus and naturally anything more expensive.

                              The LX can be used for a rear entry conversion.
                              I have a 2017 Pacifica, so not in the market, but any idea if the Sport package can be modified?

                              This answered that question: http://www.kerseymobility.com/wheelc...-for-sale/Mjgw
                              Last edited by landrover; 06-29-2019, 12:37 PM.

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