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  • #16
    Stsmark and Stephen, what handrims do you have? They do not look smooth. Is there some texture or roughness to them. I currently have smooth black plastic coated ones, and any rain or snow and they are very hold to get a grip on.

    Thanks
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Joe-MN View Post
      Stsmark and Stephen, what handrims do you have? They do not look smooth. Is there some texture or roughness to them. I currently have smooth black plastic coated ones, and any rain or snow and they are very hold to get a grip on.

      Thanks
      +1 how do you like those hand rims? Haven’t seen any like that before.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by funklab View Post
        Being able to grab the wheels easier and clean them easier will probably make a bigger difference to the utility I get out of a wheel.
        You may want to look at the Natural-Fit handrim. The shape helps to grip better. If you want extra grip, then consider the Surge option. It's a thin rubber strip that runs along the top of the handrim. Not sure I would order the Surge option again because the rubber comes off and stains your palms.

        Let us know what you think of the titanium handrim. I am considering getting them because there is no anodization or rubber to end up on your palms. Plus they won't scratch.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by funklab View Post
          +1 how do you like those hand rims? Haven’t seen any like that before.
          STsmark has a set of Spinergy TC Stainless Steel Handrims. Coincidentally, these are the rims I have mounted on my Spinergy Carbon Blades, too. You can read the product description to see what their selling features are. Personally, I don't love love love them. The knurled surface of the rim, I think, provides less direct surface contact with your hands and thus requires slightly greater grip force as compared to a conventional pushrim, and a lot more than what's required to propel a Surge (rubber gripped) push rim. As s result, the TC rims may be contributing to the return of some carpal tunnel syndrome symptoms that I've experienced in the past.

          As with everything wheelchair part related, there is no perfect product for all users. For shear energy transfer, I really like the Surge LT rims but if you're not wearing gloves, the rubber will take the skin off your hands when you're going down hill.
          stephen@bike-on.com

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          • #20
            Originally posted by stephen212 View Post
            I really like the Surge LT rims but if you're not wearing gloves, the rubber will take the skin off your hands when you're going down hill.
            You learn how to grip it while going downhill. Unlike a circular handrim, the Natural-fit (with or without the Surge option) is oblong. When going downhill, you don't touch the top and grip the handrim on the other 3 sides with the palm up. No burn.

            Speaking of getting a better push and carpel tunnel syndrome, the thumb piece option provides a more ergonomic way to engage your thumb in the push. Rather than having to wrap your thumb around the handrim, you rest your thumb in the track between the handrim and the wheel. The combination of the oblong shape plus the thumb piece enables you to grip the handrim with the hand in a more open position. I'm not sure I could go back to a circular handrim.

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            • #21
              I've had those same Surge handrims pictured on my chair above for over three years now and haven't had any issues with rubber coming off or staining my hands. Like August said, you can put pressure on the sides of the handrim to prevent rubber burn going downhill. But honestly, I'm never going downhill on a day to day basis so it's not an issue for me. Having used a handrim with rubber grip like these, I don't see how anyone uses a non coated handrim. I have Surge LT's on my standing chair and prefer the smaller size to the ones on my daily chair. I also like the short tab mount so my thumbs don't get caught on the tabs.

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              • #22
                Hi all,
                I’ll completely second Stephen’s comments about the textured Spinergy rims. I’m just meh on them. I will say no issues with downhills or the oxidation on the hands. One thing that’s bugged me is both of mine have an 1/8”or so hole on the inside towards the tire about an inch from a tab, I have no idea why it’s there.
                My favorite are my Spinergy Flexrims.

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                • #23
                  Why are you just 'meh' on them? Any other handrims that you would suggest to look at?

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                  Originally posted by Stsmark View Post
                  Hi all,
                  I’ll completely second Stephen’s comments about the textured Spinergy rims. I’m just meh on them. I will say no issues with downhills or the oxidation on the hands. One thing that’s bugged me is both of mine have an 1/8”or so hole on the inside towards the tire about an inch from a tab, I have no idea why it’s there.
                  My favorite are my Spinergy Flexrims.
                  Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Brad09 View Post
                    I've had those same Surge handrims pictured on my chair above for over three years now and haven't had any issues with rubber coming off or staining my hands.
                    That's interesting that you say that. Only my left hand gets the stain. I switch the wheels from side to side and still it's just the left hand. Maybe it's me.

                    Originally posted by Brad09 View Post
                    I also like the short tab mount so my thumbs don't get caught on the tabs.
                    Have you tried the thumb piece option? It's facilitates a better push, improves ergonomics, and it covers the tabs making it impossible for your thumb to get caught on the tabs.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Stsmark View Post
                      One thing that?s bugged me is both of mine have an 1/8?or so hole on the inside towards the tire about an inch from a tab, I have no idea why it?s there.
                      Apparently that’s a welding requirement, ie they need a hole when making the handrim circumferential weld, presumably because there would be an issue trying to weld up the last bit if air was trapped inside. (I only know because I asked a manufacturer the same question about another part of a chair!)
                      Gordon, father of son who became t6 paraplegic at the age of 4 in 2007 as a result of surgery to remove a spinal tumour.

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                      • #26
                        or ...

                        http://www.woodrims.com

                        https://www.lignorim.com/

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by NW-Will View Post
                          Lol, I've seen someone post about those rims before. They actually seem like a pretty cool idea to me, but they run so counter to the "sporty" carbon fiber/aluminum/plastic/titanium/fiberglass makeup of all decent lightweight chairs that they look bizarre... like a wooden door handle on a ferrari.

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                          • #28
                            I'd love to try them just for the thermal properties..
                            you know .. not getting crazy cold in winter and crazy hot in the summer etc.. plus I think they kind of look cool.

                            Hey if I owned a Ferrari, full on woody.

                            Originally posted by funklab View Post
                            Lol, I've seen someone post about those rims before. They actually seem like a pretty cool idea to me, but they run so counter to the "sporty" carbon fiber/aluminum/plastic/titanium/fiberglass makeup of all decent lightweight chairs that they look bizarre... like a wooden door handle on a ferrari.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by August West View Post
                              That's interesting that you say that. Only my left hand gets the stain. I switch the wheels from side to side and still it's just the left hand. Maybe it's me.

                              Have you tried the thumb piece option? It's facilitates a better push, improves ergonomics, and it covers the tabs making it impossible for your thumb to get caught on the tabs.
                              I didn't know they offered a thumb piece for Surge handrims (assuming you're talking about the same ones that come with the regular natural fit handrims). Are you saying you put your thumb on the thumb piece and your palm goes on the Surge rubber strip, instead of putting your thumb on the rubber strip?

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