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    #31
    You still can't use that independently, which is what the OP was requesting.

    Originally posted by baldfatdad View Post
    https://www.raizer.com/

    I couldn't find the thread about getting off the floor, but found this thing. They have distributors in the US. I'll have to see what it costs.
    Originally posted by wes4dbt View Post
    That's awesome. Please post back price. My guess..... $1,500. Let hope it's not ridiculous.
    Guess again! $11,606.07 list, "on-sale" for $7,368.93!!!!!!
    https://www.amicamedicalsupply.com/r...hoCai8QAvD_BwE

    (KLD)
    The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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      #32
      Originally posted by wes4dbt View Post
      That's awesome. Please post back price. My guess..... $1,500. Let hope it's not ridiculous.

      Charging whatever the market will bear.

      https://www.liftup.dk/en/distributors/

      Houston distributor has it listed at 6,499
      Dallas distributor has it listed at 3,990

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        #33
        Originally posted by SCI-Nurse View Post
        Not with most floor based lifts. Some can do it with a ceiling track lift if you have both a lifting and lateral motor system, and a wireless remote, but you are limited to being able to access it from where you have track, unless you can crawl or drag yourself to that area

        In my area, if you call 911 to get picked up from a fall too many times in a short period, you start getting a bill of around $800 for that type of call.

        Note:
        Just spoke to a relative yesterday who found out that if you call 911 and ask for Fire Department instead of "emergency", then when connected to local Fire Department explain the situation and ask if they are able to come to your residence and pick up someone who has fallen out of their wheelchair.
        The relative's husband had fallen two or three times in the last 6 months of his life.
        She said she was never charged for this help.

        Do you have any experience of a local Fire Department doing this type of thing for free? In my area if EMS is dispatched to help you, it is a private emergency company that responds and charges you. A township/county/city Fire Department responder may not charge as they aren't private? - they receive part of our property taxes. If someone is unable to pay for a service like this, it may pay to visit the local fire station and discuss.
        Last edited by SCI-Nurse; 8 Feb 2019, 2:44 PM.

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          #34
          Originally posted by triumph View Post
          Do you have any experience of a local Fire Department doing this type of thing for free? In my area if EMS is dispatched to help you, it is a private emergency company that responds and charges you. A township/county/city Fire Department responder may not charge as they aren't private? - they receive part of our property taxes. If someone is unable to pay for a service like this, it may pay to visit the local fire station and discuss.
          Over here, I call 911, but clearly state that it is not an emergency, but I need invalid assistance (our 911, though is how we make non-emergency contact with police, so the system is set to handle it) . The fire dept responds and seem happy to help. I had an MS friend call about every other month and he never got charged and the firemen were always friendly and helpful.
          C-6/7 incomplete

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            #35
            Originally posted by Kulea View Post
            Over here, I call 911, but clearly state that it is not an emergency, but I need invalid assistance (our 911, though is how we make non-emergency contact with police, so the system is set to handle it) . The fire dept responds and seem happy to help. I had an MS friend call about every other month and he never got charged and the firemen were always friendly and helpful.
            I am sure this varies by location, but in my city the EMS (fire dept. managed) with bill you if they consider your calls for pick up from the floor as "excessive".

            (KLD)
            The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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              #36
              Originally posted by August West View Post


              One could build something like this with PVC piping for $50.
              I?ve thought about doing something like this. Anyone have any photos, plans, or experiences with this? I?ve never built anything with PVC. I?d be afraid of it toppling or outright breakingwhen you attempted to transfer onto it.

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                #37
                Originally posted by ABQwheelin View Post
                I?ve thought about doing something like this. Anyone have any photos, plans, or experiences with this? I?ve never built anything with PVC. I?d be afraid of it toppling or outright breakingwhen you attempted to transfer onto it.
                I've got lawn chairs made out of schedule 40 and it holds up even to some fat ass drunken friends of mine.

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                  #38
                  I have used a para ladder in the past and found it very easy to use. I want to purchase one, but they aren't being manufactured right now. Does anyone have one they would sell to me? Or has anyone made something similar and could share their building plans with me?

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                    #39
                    My last fall out of bed, I developed this technique that worked for me.
                    I scooted/crawled to my power chairs foot rests, put my butt on them (back towards chair), tilted seat back (which raises feet rests), this allowed me to twist around 90 degrees and put one side of my hip/butt on calf pads, then hit the feet elevate button a little till I was able to put both butt cheeks on calf pads, elevated foot rests more which put my butt near level with my chair, scooted to seat from there. Gratified I didn't have to call 911 to pick up my naked ass.
                    Attack life, it's going to kill you anyway
                    Steve Mcqueen (Mr Cool)

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                      #40
                      I turn my Ride Custom cushion upside down. It's doesn't give at all and provides about 3-4" of height above the floor. From there I can usually lift myself onto a couch. The key word is usually. Getting old.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by August West View Post
                        I turn my Ride Custom cushion upside down. It's doesn't give at all and provides about 3-4" of height above the floor. From there I can usually lift myself onto a couch. The key word is usually. Getting old.
                        I can relate. Before my laminectomy, I could get on hands (although fisted) and knees, then grab anything to get up. No longer can do (I hate saying that). I try like hell before 911ing. Telling them that I am not injured may have helped with multi visits and no charge. I need to ask my local officials about this as it's common for small localities to charge after X number of calls per year.
                        Common sense learning of what put me on floor and how to avoid it has helped a lot. Bath tube sticky mat beside bed has been my saviour many times. C3 quad, can wobble better than walk.
                        Attack life, it's going to kill you anyway
                        Steve Mcqueen (Mr Cool)

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                          #42
                          Thought I'd update this thread. I found a lightweight, portable, and cheap step stool that works to help me off the ground and back onto my chair, couch, or bed. It's called the Range Kleen SS2. It's available on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Range-Kleen-S...dp/B007EEG7M0/. What's great is that these plastic step stools are very thin when folded up. I also think the handles can be useful. I first ordered one, tested it for floor transfers, and then ordered several more and placed them around my house so that there will always be one convenient in the inconvenient situation that I end up on the floor. The solution isn't perfect (steps are just wide enough), but it works for me and it's a whole lot more cost effective than the para ladder.

                          Edit: I should add that these step stools are currently $36 on Amazon. I ordered four additional stools from another site (https://www.campingworld.com/folding...%2Fstep-stools) during a sale for $92, including shipping and tax. It looks like they've raised the price a tad since then, but they're currently offering a 15% discount off of the website list price ($33.76). The sale ends on 9/24/19, but I think the site offers special promo codes relatively often. I also wouldn't rule out searching Google for "Range Kleen SS2" to see what kind of deals turn up. That's how I stumbled upon Camping World.
                          Last edited by ABQwheelin; 26 Sep 2019, 5:11 AM. Reason: added new material

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by ABQwheelin View Post
                            Thought I'd update this thread. I found a lightweight, portable, and cheap step stool that works to help me off the ground and back onto my chair, couch, or bed. It's called the Range Kleen SS2. It's available on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Range-Kleen-S...dp/B007EEG7M0/. What's great is that these plastic step stools are very thin when folded up. I also think the handles can be useful. I first ordered one, tested it for floor transfers, and then ordered several more and placed them around my house so that there will always be one convenient in the inconvenient situation that I end up on the floor. The solution isn't perfect (steps are just wide enough), but it works for me and it's a whole lot more cost effective than the paraladder.

                            Edit: I should add that these step stools are currently $36 on Amazon, but I ordered four more of them from another site (https://www.campingworld.com/folding...%2Fstep-stools) during a sale for $92, including shipping and tax. It looks like they've raised the price a tad since then, but they're currently offering a 15% discount off of the website list price ($33.76). It looks like the sale will end on 9/24/19, but the deal I got had a similar promo code during a sale the website offered during Amazon's Prime Day this past July so I wouldn't be surprised if there are more special promos in the future. I also wouldn't rule out searching Google for "Range Kleen SS2" to see what kind of deals turn up. That's how I stumbled upon Camping World.
                            This is a great tip, thanks for directing us here! I'm going to try one.

                            Have you used a cushion on the steps for transfers or would that be overkill?

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Jades View Post
                              This is a great tip, thanks for directing us here! I'm going to try one.

                              Have you used a cushion on the steps for transfers or would that be overkill?
                              I use my wheelchair cushion off the floor, but I have not tried any type of cushion on either of the steps. I don't think I could add any meaningful cushion to the steps themselves. It takes a lot for me to get up each step. I imagine I would knock off any cushion I tried to place on either of the steps.

                              One more thing to add. When lifting myself up, I put one hand on my carefully positioned chair and one hand on the step stool. I haven't been able to lift myself onto either step only using the step stool itself. This is where I imagine the handles on the para ladder really come in handy.

                              Jades, let us know how it works for you! Best of luck!

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                                #45
                                Here is what I have. Two Wheel Hydraulic Platform Lift Truck-Foot Operated . Change it over and buy a electic 110 volt winch. I have 2 of these. Your spare ROHO fits perfect. Goggle search it. I even glued a piece of carpet to the platform. You have to weld a plate at the top of it then weld a good size ring to the platform for a hook. Have used this for 40 years now.
                                https://handtrucks2go.com/Two-Wheel-....html....model 2600015 or look for Wesco 2 wheel cart 2600015. They are easier to convert because they use a wheel at the top of lift and you can mount the winch lower and buy the cable winch. Total cost today would be close to 1500 dollars. What is nice you can be on it and slide it once you get it close to were you want to go. I use it to get on my lawnmowers and working over the fender of my car. The one I added more steal to the bottom of it and made a bigger platform. I can roll my chair on it and lift myself up to change light blubs in my garage and working on cars. I bought the 1500 pound electric lift. I see after I posted it the link won't work. But you can find it on the Wesco site on goggle.
                                Art

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