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  • java backrest

    anyone using one? i have a varilite icon, that i liked in the begining but hate now. the air feels like it moves when i push back into it. i have a roho agility on my other tr3, best so far. used it for 2 years. hated adi, just not good for my back.
    problem area is ribs on right side.
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  • #2
    I do. I hate it. The backrest sides sometimes rub on my ribs when I lean over and I have caused skin sores there. And I also squeaks and moves every time because it's a removable backrest so there's latches and it's not securely mounted. Two different types of brackets because they redesigned it but that doesn't change the fact that its metal-on-metal and when I lean back and lean forward it squeaks. Super annoying. The company can't do anything about it either

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    • #3
      fuente,
      I'm surprised the Icon feels that way. I've used one with very little air in it and found I could lean into it very heavily and it remained comfortable. Personally, I'm not a fan of the Java back. Have you looked at the Matrx MX2 carbon back?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by SCI_OTR View Post
        fuente,
        I'm surprised the Icon feels that way. I've used one with very little air in it and found I could lean into it very heavily and it remained comfortable. Personally, I'm not a fan of the Java back. Have you looked at the Matrx MX2 carbon back?
        ive only use it filled up totally with air to get relief on my ribs. i will look at that mx2. thx much
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        • #5
          I've used a Java for a few years and it suits me well. The depth gives me the lateral stability that I need and the top edge is low enough to not irritate my scapula, which are sensitive for some reason.

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          • #6
            Java back rest. yeah squeaks like crazy, the foam compresses over time till you pretty much have no cushioning. had 2 the first one was faulty and the rubber that is supposed to protect you from the metal edges came off both in the first month on both, gave up on it now.

            Don't over tighten the bolts as the proprietary nuts they use can't take it and just split, my PT & DME made has made it through half a dozen of their nuts.

            I took the air bladder out of my ICON and put it inside the sleeve and it fits perfectly, so it's like an upgraded ICON now, no slot for the valve, so you have to take it all apart to adjust it, but works well for me.

            Being able to bend the metal back so you can have it molded how you like is a nice feature.

            Still rocking it till I find a better option.

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            • #7
              thx for he recommendation. i have been using the mx2 now for few mths, its been great for me.....i use an 18 wide on my 17 wide chair and the lumbar foam. working well so far, best hard back i have tried. the fixed hardware is very clean too
              Originally posted by SCI_OTR View Post
              fuente,
              I'm surprised the Icon feels that way. I've used one with very little air in it and found I could lean into it very heavily and it remained comfortable. Personally, I'm not a fan of the Java back. Have you looked at the Matrx MX2 carbon back?
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              • #8
                No problem. The MX2 is a fairly well kept secret.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by fuentejps View Post
                  thx for he recommendation. i have been using the mx2 now for few mths, its been great for me.....i use an 18 wide on my 17 wide chair and the lumbar foam. working well so far, best hard back i have tried. the fixed hardware is very clean too
                  You said you hated your ADI back, what do you like better about the MX2? I have had a deep contour ADI carbon back for the last few years and have lots of back pain, but can't figure out if it's from the backrest or just typical muscular pain from pushing a wheelchair everyday. It seems like the lateral support is narrower than my back, maybe I need to go with a wider back than my chair is like you did. I would change to a different backrest if I knew it would help.

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                  • #10
                    it was just to hard Brad. dug into my back. the roho agility was much better but this mx2 has some flex which i like and going wider really helped for me too.
                    Originally posted by Brad09 View Post
                    You said you hated your ADI back, what do you like better about the MX2? I have had a deep contour ADI carbon back for the last few years and have lots of back pain, but can't figure out if it's from the backrest or just typical muscular pain from pushing a wheelchair everyday. It seems like the lateral support is narrower than my back, maybe I need to go with a wider back than my chair is like you did. I would change to a different backrest if I knew it would help.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by fuentejps View Post
                      it was just to hard Brad. dug into my back. the roho agility was much better but this mx2 has some flex which i like and going wider really helped for me too.
                      I'm assuming you can't fold your backrest if you go wider, if you haven non removable/non fold-able side guards, correct? I don't fold mine when I put my chair in my front seat, but my wife needs to fold it to put it in the back hatch of my car when we ride together.

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