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    Segway type power chairs

    Hello All,
    I have been looking at the Segway type chairs and they interest me a lot. I am not sure I am ready to dump the amount of cash that they cost but I am doing research to see just what is offered by the different manufacturers and the pros and cons.

    With that said nothing beats personal experience so I was wondering if I could get some input from any of you who are using "balancing" type chairs.

    My plan for it would be to use it for quick jaunts to the market which is 2 miles away, taking walks with the family which include trail walking. Just how capable are these thing when it comes to trails? Weight is an issue as most of our walking venues are a bit of a drive away so this will need to be loaded into the back of the car.

    Let me know your experiences if you would not mind.

    Thanks.

    Cheers,
    Jim

    #2
    Not a professional user yet!
    but have lightly used one.
    I'm T4,
    Big Pro, Been great in the grass and dirt, very fast. Tiny foot print.
    Cons so far:
    Doors.. have yet to figure out how to open doors on my own, anytime you change the balance of the machine it it moves. so leaning to try and push and hold doors is proving impossible for me right now.
    So trying to go to the rest room is also proving impossible.
    The size of the bump you can get over in concrete sidewalks is not as big as you would imagine.
    The amount your feet stick out from the front really impairs the gradient of ramp/slope you can go up, so look carefully at how far your feet stick out.
    You tend to sit really high, so transferring can be an issue, and tables in restaurants etc become impossible.
    Just my initial 2 cents.

    Originally posted by LJH View Post
    Hello All,
    I have been looking at the Segway type chairs and they interest me a lot. I am not sure I am ready to dump the amount of cash that they cost but I am doing research to see just what is offered by the different manufacturers and the pros and cons.

    With that said nothing beats personal experience so I was wondering if I could get some input from any of you who are using "balancing" type chairs.

    My plan for it would be to use it for quick jaunts to the market which is 2 miles away, taking walks with the family which include trail walking. Just how capable are these thing when it comes to trails? Weight is an issue as most of our walking venues are a bit of a drive away so this will need to be loaded into the back of the car.

    Let me know your experiences if you would not mind.

    Thanks.

    Cheers,
    Jim

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      #3
      Not a user, but I had a decently long demo in an Ogo some time ago. Bear in mind when reading this that even now I still consider myself a beginner in a wheelchair with only 18 months as a user, and the demo was close to a year ago so I was very much unskilled in a chair.

      I agree with the above about doors. I?m T2 and don?t have anywhere near the trunk stability needed to keep the thing still if I?m trying to do anything with my hands. In fact I had to hold the handles to control the chair as I can?t sit up straight on my own. The Ogo has a mode where a little joystick is used to turn and only forward / back is controlled by leaning, and I had more control using that, but it would need to be 4 way before I?d buy one. If you have core muscle control you can disregard that entire issue though, and when I was moving with my hands free to hold the handles I was in full control.

      I actually found that I could get up remarkably steep slopes. My demo was done in a rural setting so I had a go on grassy areas with some gentle slopes, but also ditches and I went up a fairly steep country road. That last was an eye opener as it was so steep that I was a bit wary of turning around across the slope and the way down was pretty scary as it felt like I was leaning forward into nothing - my natural tendency was to lean back as the ground was sloping too steeply away in front of me. That?s just something to get used to however.

      I didn?t push the limits of the thing on uneven ground, and I didn?t get a chance to try things like concrete kerb stones, but I was constantly being encouraged to try rougher ground and bigger obstacles, so it was pretty capable on rough ground.

      I didn?t get chance to try fitting under tables or anything, and I agree it might be a little too high for that, but the transfer in wasn?t too bad from my TiLite, so I don?t think it was lots higher.

      It was nicely fast and across a grassy field was loads of fun.

      Overall I went into it thinking it might be a fun toy and would let me get out on mountain bike trails with friends, and it was all of those things. What stopped me from buying it was actually that I realised that with the street wheels it would be usable as an every day chair, but I wouldn?t have the control needed to do that. If they extend the joystick mode to all 4 directions then I?d definitely revisit the idea again.
      T2 complete since late 2016. Apparently I wasn?t as good at mountain biking as I thought

      I apologise that when I type an apostrophe it appears as a question mark. I post using an iPad and this is the only forum it happens on. I will fix it if I figure out how.

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        #4
        The inventor/designer of Segway also made a chair he named iBot (search it) about 15-20 years ago. It has four wheel drive, can climb stairs, can transition into 2 wheel Segway mode. 4 wheel mode could handle most outdoor conditions (within reason) and you are as low a most chairs. Stair climb mode looks cool, curbs not a problem. In Segway mode you are as tall as anyone standing and walking while you are sitting and moving or stopped. Many vets got them until the VA and insurance companies stopped covering them (changed their classification) so production ceased. Retail was about $20K back then. Some show up on eBay for avg $10K. However no factory support exist and this is important: a timer is programmed in and the chair stops working when it reached 10 yrs old, requiring a factory tech to reset timer after full inspection and repair as needed. I found a company that specializes in rebuilding the batteries which have circuit boards in them that they also rebuild which is where I suspect the timer is located (not confirmed). Heard a rumor a few years ago they might make them again. Google "iBot", it's a good read.
        Last edited by Gearhead; 24 Jan 2019, 2:38 AM.
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          #5
          "The next generation iBot is here"
          http://mobiusmobility.com

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            #6
            no mentions of price of availability, or good pictures of the device?

            Originally posted by PeteShick View Post
            "The next generation iBot is here"
            http://mobiusmobility.com

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              #7
              From the company via inquiry...
              "Good Day!

              Thank you for your interest in new iBOT! We have received FDA clearance and are working towards launching the new iBOT in the Summer of 2019. In the meantime, we are busy setting up our new facility here in Manchester, NH.

              As we prepare to take the next step in launching the new iBOT, there are a few details we would like to share with our prospective users:
              ? A prescription from your doctor will be required for purchase
              ? The new iBOT will be offered with a rehab seat from Motion Concepts
              ? The iBOT isn?t coded for insurance coverage yet. We are actively pursuing this, but in the short term, the iBOT will be available as a self-pay cash sale only
              ? Fundraising opportunities are available, we?re happy to assist where possible
              ? Pricing for the iBOT is still being calculated, but we are working to keep the price as close to $30,000 as possible


              We would also like to ask for you to provide us with your full name, physical mailing address, and phone number if you haven?t already done so. Going forward, this gives us the ability to contact you via US mail, or email. If you have a preferred contact method, please let us know. Please note this information will be stored internally within Mobius Mobility and will not be sold or shared with other parties.

              Please don?t hesitate to reach out with any questions or concerns you may have. We are so excited that the new iBOT is almost here!!

              Best Regards,
              Jailene and The Mobius Mobility Team

              Mobius Mobility
              286 Commercial St.
              Manchester NH 03101
              (866) 956-2432"

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                #8
                Good info.. thanks for sharing.

                Originally posted by PeteShick View Post
                From the company via inquiry...
                "Good Day!

                Thank you for your interest in new iBOT! We have received FDA clearance and are working towards launching the new iBOT in the Summer of 2019. In the meantime, we are busy setting up our new facility here in Manchester, NH.

                As we prepare to take the next step in launching the new iBOT, there are a few details we would like to share with our prospective users:
                ? A prescription from your doctor will be required for purchase
                ? The new iBOT will be offered with a rehab seat from Motion Concepts
                ? The iBOT isn?t coded for insurance coverage yet. We are actively pursuing this, but in the short term, the iBOT will be available as a self-pay cash sale only
                ? Fundraising opportunities are available, we?re happy to assist where possible
                ? Pricing for the iBOT is still being calculated, but we are working to keep the price as close to $30,000 as possible


                We would also like to ask for you to provide us with your full name, physical mailing address, and phone number if you haven?t already done so. Going forward, this gives us the ability to contact you via US mail, or email. If you have a preferred contact method, please let us know. Please note this information will be stored internally within Mobius Mobility and will not be sold or shared with other parties.

                Please don?t hesitate to reach out with any questions or concerns you may have. We are so excited that the new iBOT is almost here!!

                Best Regards,
                Jailene and The Mobius Mobility Team

                Mobius Mobility
                286 Commercial St.
                Manchester NH 03101
                (866) 956-2432"

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                  #9
                  I stumbled upon this


                  https://www.1800wheelchair.com/produ..._D_BwE#details

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