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  • Your Choice Between Quantum Edge and Quickie QM 710

    The only two options I have. Both look decent on YouTube. Both have pros and cons.

    I've had a basic as basic can get Quantum 6000z with tilt since 2009. It's so old that repairing is no longer cost effective.

    I'll be checking out both of these chairs next week and if any of you have personal experience and wouldn't mind sharing I'd appreciate it greatly!

    Basically I'm looking for opinions on which of these you would choose over the other.

    Thanks in advance!

    Q6 Edge

    QM-710

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    I have never seen a QM-710 so have no clue about that model. So have no info/option on it.
    I have a old Q6 Edge that is close 6 years old. It's got nice small footprint for 6 wheeler and tight turning in close quarters. Since you have a 6000z you already know pro and cons of 6 wheelers(midwheel) chairs
    I don't like slow power actuators on seating, seems take lot more time than AmySystems, 21st Century Scificentic and wish had toggles or separate controls for seating functions rather than having to scrolling through joystick to seating screen.
    Don't really like foam covering on push handles since my backpack just chewed it up pretty quickly.
    So far had no problems except replacing batteries. Not much room under there, guy had alot huffing, puffing and such when they are replaced.
    If you Demo a QM-710 I'd like hear about it.
    "Good Luck!"

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    • #3
      Thanks, Mike!

      Yeah, the actuators did seem slow in the videos. I wonder if programing could speed them up. I'll ask.

      Toggling through is a pain for sure. I'll give that a test.

      I currently leave a trail of foam from my arm rests. I'll check to see what type of foam they use for sure.

      I'll take pics if I have a chance. And I'll certainly let you know how I feel about them after!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by NorthQuad View Post
        Thanks, Mike!

        Yeah, the actuators did seem slow in the videos. I wonder if programing could speed them up. I'll ask.

        Toggling through is a pain for sure. I'll give that a test.

        I currently leave a trail of foam from my arm rests. I'll check to see what type of foam they use for sure.

        I'll take pics if I have a chance. And I'll certainly let you know how I feel about them after!
        Just thought about it, A member from WCJ before it closed sent me some fasteners that is used on rail system to add some pouches for Mama's C350.
        I think Pride/Quantum has changed setting system as far as to add pouches and such to seating sides, has their own backpack as option and armrest have rail system now, too.
        That might help and think, not checked lately but Quantum has as add-on backpack holders that mount to push bar, as well as a accessory bar for back of chair as option that could be used hopefully to cut down wear and tear on foam padding on push handles.
        It may be me but but joystick screen is hard to see in sunlight. I pretty much guess when scroll to different modes as well as seating control functions then moving joystick to see which function is in use.
        Also, I'm guessing your Z may have these problems and use to it. But on steep ramps check your footplates to see if scrub ground on curb cuts or ramps, especially if you need backup/descend ramp in van.
        "Good Luck!"

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        • #5
          Definitely, Mike.

          Yes, these issues are a nuisance with my current Q6000z. I had them program the tilt so I could drive at any tilt level I need. Otherwise the feet would scrape so easily it was ridiculous.

          The OT seemed partial to the QM 710 though I never base my choices on an able-bodied view. But she mentioned there were less issues, more choices and functioned much better for a taller individual. And the YouTube videos pointed out an automatic screen dimmer on the Quickie so it's visible in the direct sunlight.

          I'll definitely make a checklist to go over all these usual issues.

          Thanks, Mike.

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          • #6
            I have a QM-710. You can see it in my profile picture. It's really not bad, for a mid-wheel drive power chair. The ride is smooth, and for as old as my house is (1950s bungalow). It went through the doorways on the trial run without the doorways needing modification/widening. It has a small footprint in the turning radius. Compared to my old power chair that was a bone shaker, and back aggravatior. I like the QM-710. It was a toss up between it, and the Pulse 6. Which is its counterpart. I wanted to go with it because I liked the features of the QM-710 more than I did with the Pulse 6.

            I was looking into the Edge too. But, I got talked out of it by my seating specialist.
            Samantha

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            • #7
              I've been thinking about getting QM-710. I like the spider track system and the fact it can handle Group 24 batteries, the Pulse doesn't and there is only one model of the Edge that does. I've only seen videos and read specs so I would be glad to hear any first hand knowledge of the QM-710.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by NorthQuad View Post
                The only two options I have. Both look decent on YouTube. Both have pros and cons.

                I've had a basic as basic can get Quantum 6000z with tilt since 2009. It's so old that repairing is no longer cost effective.

                I'll be checking out both of these chairs next week and if any of you have personal experience and wouldn't mind sharing I'd appreciate it greatly!

                Basically I'm looking for opinions on which of these you would choose over the other.

                Thanks in advance!

                Q6 Edge

                QM-710
                Pride chairs are the biggest pieces of junk out there!! I know I was an expert in the brand and the misguided remarks and direction Mark Smith (PR director of pride quantium) but out!

                They/HE are still putting out lies and are caught up in the political direction with "Built in America" marketing as if that means anything because they use a lot of junk plastic parts that break in time and motors from China!

                The biggest issue with the Edge is it uses some of the smallest batteries in power chair history NF 22's

                The complaints got so bad on this chair and users getting stuck after minimal use with batteries running out of charge that Pride shut down there user forum board!!

                Smaller batteries also dont last as long so replacement will need to be down sooner.

                I had a Pride 6000, 2 Pride 6000zs (2nd one was because the 1st one broke so much Pride replaced it)
                and a Pride Edge.

                I cant tell you all the issues and problems and I had the help of Pride managements to get my fixes fast average user who knows how long they have to wait.

                Got so tired of all the lies and marketing fabrations on performance that we made the change to Permobil and so glad we did.

                Its a much stronger brand and manufacture then both Pride and Quickie.

                Also dont be misguided that mid wheel offers a better experience then other drives in tight areas again marketing talk.

                Most users self included have gotten stuck in steep inclines, grass or gravel and what if there is no one to push you out?

                I have yet to get stuck in a front wheel drive and believe me I have tried!

                Interesting how Pride know has a front wheel drive chair too...
                Rolling now in a front wheel drive and it 100% out performs mid wheel in so many ways.

                With out front casters to get in the way it works so much better in tight areas once you get use to the way front wheel drive handles its amazing!

                The F3 and mid wheel M3 handles larger 24 batteries that give a more positive customer experience!


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 50surgeries2012 View Post
                    I have a QM-710. You can see it in my profile picture. It's really not bad, for a mid-wheel drive power chair. The ride is smooth, and for as old as my house is (1950s bungalow). It went through the doorways on the trial run without the doorways needing modification/widening. It has a small footprint in the turning radius. Compared to my old power chair that was a bone shaker, and back aggravatior. I like the QM-710. It was a toss up between it, and the Pulse 6. Which is its counterpart. I wanted to go with it because I liked the features of the QM-710 more than I did with the Pulse 6.

                    I was looking into the Edge too. But, I got talked out of it by my seating specialist.
                    Good to know! Thanks, 50surgeries!
                    Originally posted by wes4dbt View Post
                    I've been thinking about getting QM-710. I like the spider track system and the fact it can handle Group 24 batteries, the Pulse doesn't and there is only one model of the Edge that does. I've only seen videos and read specs so I would be glad to hear any first hand knowledge of the QM-710.
                    I'll have my hands on it tomorrow at 3pm. The guy coming has been doing this for years and will give me the no bs overall of the chairs. I think that may be why he was really wanting to bring the 710 over the most.
                    Originally posted by RollPositive View Post
                    Pride chairs are the biggest pieces of junk out there!! I know I was an expert in the brand and the misguided remarks and direction Mark Smith (PR director of pride quantium) but out!

                    They/HE are still putting out lies and are caught up in the political direction with "Built in America" marketing as if that means anything because they use a lot of junk plastic parts that break in time and motors from China!

                    The biggest issue with the Edge is it uses some of the smallest batteries in power chair history NF 22's

                    The complaints got so bad on this chair and users getting stuck after minimal use with batteries running out of charge that Pride shut down there user forum board!!

                    Smaller batteries also dont last as long so replacement will need to be down sooner.

                    I had a Pride 6000, 2 Pride 6000zs (2nd one was because the 1st one broke so much Pride replaced it)
                    and a Pride Edge.

                    I cant tell you all the issues and problems and I had the help of Pride managements to get my fixes fast average user who knows how long they have to wait.

                    Got so tired of all the lies and marketing fabrations on performance that we made the change to Permobil and so glad we did.

                    Its a much stronger brand and manufacture then both Pride and Quickie.

                    Also dont be misguided that mid wheel offers a better experience then other drives in tight areas again marketing talk.

                    Most users self included have gotten stuck in steep inclines, grass or gravel and what if there is no one to push you out?

                    I have yet to get stuck in a front wheel drive and believe me I have tried!

                    Interesting how Pride know has a front wheel drive chair too...
                    Rolling now in a front wheel drive and it 100% out performs mid wheel in so many ways.

                    With out front casters to get in the way it works so much better in tight areas once you get use to the way front wheel drive handles its amazing!

                    The F3 and mid wheel M3 handles larger 24 batteries that give a more positive customer experience!
                    Thanks for the input. Most of this I had no clue about but boy does it ever ring clear. Getting parts for this has always been a joke. Leaking motors, broken plastic, piss-poor joysticks quitting. I'm the type that just goes with it but if I was more critical, this chair is exactly what you say it is. And I think with everything that all of you have just commented and suggested, my mind has already been made. Time to try something new in the 710. But if I ever win the lottery I'll buy a Permobil stander as well.

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                    • #11
                      NorthQuad, Looking forward to reading your hands on Demo of Quickie QM-710.

                      We now live in rural area and seldom see any Complex Rehab chairs, so not surprised never seen a QM-710.
                      We did see a F3 last summer at Walmart. Nice guy and gave great review of his chair. His past experience had been with Permobil FWD, think was C300 he said F3 replaced that model.

                      I am use to mostly RWD and MWD.
                      Before health worsened I went through a number of Jazzy chairs. Actually think older ones, not just Pride but all brands that older models all were built better than any new models. Stronger, faster and greater ground clearance than any of new models of just about any brand.

                      My wife will only use RWD and now a days choice of RWD really limited for some reason. She hates my AmySystem and says its a 6 wheeler no matter what it is called.
                      "Good Luck!"

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                      • #12
                        Thanks, Mike!

                        Yeah, I had a front drive as my first powerchair. I lived up in the boonies and needed big tires. It was totally fine. I tried out rear-wheel as well, just had to maneuver a little extra but next to nothing. I'd be fine with any. I suppose why center, only because they work for everything I need.

                        Hopefully I'll get it figured out tomorrow because my current PC is on it's last days.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by NorthQuad View Post
                          Thanks, Mike!

                          Yeah, I had a front drive as my first powerchair. I lived up in the boonies and needed big tires. It was totally fine. I tried out rear-wheel as well, just had to maneuver a little extra but next to nothing. I'd be fine with any. I suppose why center, only because they work for everything I need.

                          Hopefully I'll get it figured out tomorrow because my current PC is on it's last days.
                          My first powerchair was a long time ago. It was a regular style hospital chair with motors and a chain drive. Slow but dependable and hear that chain slapping you knew you were moving!
                          I had a Jazzy 1170 with air tires, low pressure in tire could move around yard easy and over loose deep gravel, too!
                          Course now I stick to hard smooth surfaces only.
                          Understand about PCs my laptop is about 10 years old. But, we have most problem with internet, DSL. We think it hates us and only works when it wants to.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by NorthQuad View Post
                            Good to know! Thanks, 50surgeries!

                            I'll have my hands on it tomorrow at 3pm. The guy coming has been doing this for years and will give me the no bs overall of the chairs. I think that may be why he was really wanting to bring the 710 over the most.

                            Thanks for the input. Most of this I had no clue about but boy does it ever ring clear. Getting parts for this has always been a joke. Leaking motors, broken plastic, piss-poor joysticks quitting. I'm the type that just goes with it but if I was more critical, this chair is exactly what you say it is. And I think with everything that all of you have just commented and suggested, my mind has already been made. Time to try something new in the 710. But if I ever win the lottery I'll buy a Permobil stander as well.
                            Its pretty common for people not to speak up but just to let it be...which is really sad because some of these chair are the cost of a BMW or Mercedes and imagine getting a care that falls apart all the time with cheap parts!

                            To make it worse how pride shut off the places for users to complain as a group but ending there forums!

                            Let us know how the demos go...remember to try to different manufactures so you have something to compare.

                            Technology has changed a lot since the Pride 6000.

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                            • #15
                              Thank you!

                              Yes, will do. This new chair needs to be better than my current. I'm getting older and a bit more worn-out. I want this chair to help keep me in as good of shape as possible while never failing. So I'll be a bit more selective this time.

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