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    #16
    So the QM 710 is here. The guy was straight-up honest about the Quantum Edge. It's been less than good in terms of reliability. Everything from programming to parts are lower in quality than other popular chair models. Not trying to cut-down the Edge but the Quickie is just a little better. He wouldn't stop talking about the suspension. I literally had to stop him from talking about it. And he was still trying to go over everything and I was just like, "I'm going with the QM so we can just set it up for my height."

    It's an older beat up chair so photos wouldn't do it justice. I'll have to get a custom mount made to lower the armrests two inches so I can use my Vitaglide. Otherwise it won't squeeze under the lowest points. And I'll need to find twelve inch long footplates from another chair like my Q6000z. But other than that, it'll be the same basic chair with tilt. Getting it in all black with black tires/casters will be nice though. Just for looks but I like that.

    Tilt is faster on the Qm 710 over my current chair for sure. And ground clearance looks better than my current. It goes up my slightly steeper than code 12/1" slope easier and smoother. One thing I noticed, it might be because it's a beat-up chair but probably not. The clicking brakes are twice as loud at least than my current chair. But that's something I can get over.

    So yeah, QM 710 it is. Now it'll probably be two months or more before I see the new chair, lol.

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      #17
      Glad to here you ordered your new chair. Now it's like waiting for Christmas to get here! If I get a new new power chair I'll be paying for it myself. So I've been on quickie-wheelchairs.com checking out the QM-710 and if I spec out the chair myself, I can get what I want (base model no tilt or rising seat or custom seat/backrest) with a set of MK Group 24 batteries for @ $6,000.00. I wouldn't mind going through my DME provider because there are a couple of things I'm not 100% sure of plus I could test drive the chair. If you don't mind saying, how much will your provider be charging? No problem if you don't want to talk about the price.

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        #18
        NorthQuad, Congratulations on new chair! Hope it works out for you.
        Like posted earlier I've never seen a Quickie. So, interested in how it all turns out for you, especially the armrest height and footplate problem.
        "Good Luck!"

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          #19
          Congrats on the new chair coming up. Your DME was pushing Quickie because Quickie gives the dealer a bigger discount hence he gets more profit.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Patrick Madsen View Post
            Congrats on the new chair coming up. Your DME was pushing Quickie because Quickie gives the dealer a bigger discount hence he gets more profit.
            Not a Quickie fan and sounds like he had his mine made and it was never a real question of Pride but never tried other chairs it sounds like so one will never really know without comparisons.

            But how would you know commission paid and what the profit margin in of one manufacture to the other and regional territories?

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              #21
              Originally posted by wes4dbt View Post
              Glad to here you ordered your new chair. Now it's like waiting for Christmas to get here! If I get a new new power chair I'll be paying for it myself. So I've been on quickie-wheelchairs.com checking out the QM-710 and if I spec out the chair myself, I can get what I want (base model no tilt or rising seat or custom seat/backrest) with a set of MK Group 24 batteries for @ $6,000.00. I wouldn't mind going through my DME provider because there are a couple of things I'm not 100% sure of plus I could test drive the chair. If you don't mind saying, how much will your provider be charging? No problem if you don't want to talk about the price.
              Thanks, Wes. I didn't catch the full price but with it being Canadian prices and going through the list, just off hand, probably around $15,000.

              Originally posted by MikeP2013 View Post
              NorthQuad, Congratulations on new chair! Hope it works out for you.
              Like posted earlier I've never seen a Quickie. So, interested in how it all turns out for you, especially the armrest height and footplate problem.
              "Good Luck!"
              Thanks, Mike. Yeah, I'll get it all figured out for sure. I told him those few things were a must before I would accept it, so it'll get done.
              Originally posted by Patrick Madsen View Post
              Congrats on the new chair coming up. Your DME was pushing Quickie because Quickie gives the dealer a bigger discount hence he gets more profit.
              Thanks, Patrick. It's possible but I've been in a Quantum since 2009 and I can tell you from experience, the customer service and part quality has been going downhill over the years. Even the plastic parts have become thinner lower grade and the newest models are known to be built for more indoor use than anything. Even runtime is suffering. Motors becoming cheap. Joysticks lasting a year. So if anything, I'm going to guess that a higher quality chair means less money to be made in repairs and parts for the dealer. Plus, Quickie is bigger in Canada and parts take a week rather than over a month. It's just overall a better option.
              Originally posted by RollPositive View Post
              Not a Quickie fan and sounds like he had his mine made and it was never a real question of Pride but never tried other chairs it sounds like so one will never really know without comparisons.
              But how would you know commission paid and what the profit margin in of one manufacture to the other and regional territories?
              Yeah, my mind was made for sure. After info from people here and online elsewhere including youtube comparisons and reviews I had all the info I needed. Just looking at the Quickie, I can see they thought through design a little more carefully and use materials like billet aluminum and higher quality parts and structure where Quantum chose to go a cheaper, easier, poorer design approach. Quantum Pride definitely put the lipstick on it though. But doesn't hide what's underneath.

              But yeah, I'm doubtful about commission being a factor. I pick-up on sketchy easy. This guy is far from it. Plus, this is going through government funding and they have people that watch that type of thing like hawks. To the point where if any of that type of shady business is caught, the government removes them entirely from the vendors list.

              Now I wait to see if provincial government approves everything on the list.

              Thanks, all!

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                #22
                Originally posted by RollPositive View Post
                Not a Quickie fan and sounds like he had his mine made and it was never a real question of Pride but never tried other chairs it sounds like so one will never really know without comparisons.

                But how would you know commission paid and what the profit margin in of one manufacture to the other and regional territories?
                I've dealt with Canadian reps all my 45 years of SCI. I remember when Marilyn first made her first chair as Motion Designs as well as Jim Martinson working out of his garage making chairs. The reps in North Quads area are some of my best friends from the sports days. I don't know exact dollar figures but I do know Quickie gives the reps a bigger discount than most other man to push their products. Not saying anything is wrong with that.

                Not sure how involved you are with wheelchairs and the history of the manufacturers. Quickie has had good and bad quality cycles depending on who owned the company. From NQ's assessment; it sounds like they're back on track.

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                  #23
                  Pride has been a company I've been very leery of. And their build quality went from decent to horrid gradually. And they've had a track record of poor customer service, and abysmal reliability. In my era of power chair use, the two Quickies I had were reliable, and solid chairs, I had the old P 300 and the S 626, both great chairs. Customer service and dealer service was good in that era, and I'd still consider a Quickie power chair if I were to use one again. Or get a Permobil power chair. When Marilyn Hamilton owned Quickie, their chairs were well built, solid, and reliable. And Marilyn bent over backwards to see Quickie users were happy. In those days, If my chair had a problem, it was her problem until made right and reliable.

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                    #24
                    Thanks, Kent. A QM-710 has been ordered. Hopefully it'll be here in just a couple more weeks.

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                      #25
                      Hope your chair comes soon. After using it for a while let us know what you think of it. I'm still considering buying one.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by wes4dbt View Post
                        Hope your chair comes soon. After using it for a while let us know what you think of it. I'm still considering buying one.
                        Will do.

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                          #27
                          The Quickide QM-710 arrived yesterday. Made all the final adjustments today. Had to customize footplates using the originals plus footplates from old stock via the dealer. That was about the only issue we had as Quickie just didn't have a longer 11" option that I needed. Only took an hour to rig together. Everything else was extremely adjustable. I had to turn the armrests backwards because I needed space to grab the loops of my jeans to not only pull my pants up but pull myself back in the chair when tilted. The look of them backwards doesn't bother me. It's a good solid made chair and I know I'll be happy with it. I'd say the build quality is very good to excellent. Thought went into the design with adjustability. I'm 6'4" to give you an idea of the adjustments. 18" wide x 20" seat. 20" tall back. Motors have good power. Overall it looks good for a big powerchair.

                          Low-light photos but I'll be in it tomorrow so I hope these will do.









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                            #28
                            Initial thoughts after being in the QM-710 for the morning and comparing it to a Quantum 6000z after using it for ten years.

                            The motors are a little louder than those on the 6000z. And there always seems to be restriction. As if brakes are dragging. Like if you aren't throttling you're braking. There is zero coasting. Makes for a jerky ride.

                            The clicking on and off of the motors is quite loud in comparison.

                            The front casters are wider. Unable to pull up with as much angle if you were next to cupboards.

                            Reverse is definitely slower and it's maxed on programming.

                            Turning in position is slower.

                            Tilt is overall very precise. Well built and seems strong. The tilt motor is louder than that of the 6000z which held out fine for ten years.

                            The mechanism that holds the joystick is really weak. You can twist the joystick in and out with the clamp fully tightened. Poor design there.

                            So for now, that's what I've noticed. I'll add how I feel about the QM-710 as days go on.

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                              #29
                              Found another design flaw.

                              On the joystick side. The mechanism that holds the tube that holds the joystick... it not only sits directly in the way of the lever lock to raise lower the armrests but when the armrests are lowered all the way down and the lever is swung locked, the joystick tube is then blocking the lever to allow one to raise the armrest. It then takes two individuals with full finger dexterity to open that lever past the joystick tube. I'd call that just a dumb and lazy flaw on an already poor design to hold the joystick.

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                                #30
                                Swapped out the Quickie joystick mount for the mount from the old Quantum chair. Problems solved. Now it's actually functional and sturdy.

                                The photo is that of when the mount was still on the Quantum.

                                If you're wondering why the chair is dusty, I paint. I have covers for the new chair.

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