Ricon VMI Slideaway lift

[nonoise]

Today I looked at and tried a VMI Slideaway lift. On the positive side it seems absolutely rock solid compared to the old Vanagator I tried. But once inside the van it took up a lot of space. Neither of those vans had 6 way seats so I could not test transfering, but I am positive it would not have been an issue in the Vanagator equipped van. The Slideaway, however took up what seemed like a lot of floor space and now I am having second thoughts if I can maneuver my chair into position to transfer into the passenger seat since the Slideaway lift sticks out so far into the cab.

Does anyone have one of these Slideaways or experience with them? If I was using a smaller chair I might not be so worried, but this Iglide has fairly large presence.
Here is a file photo of one:

[Automotive Innovations]

i would never get one of these lifts.

jim

[fuentejps]

i would never get one of these lifts.

jim

its the only option for passenger transfer seat now since vangator is no longer made isnt it??

[August West]

Ricon Uni-Lite is a double post lift but it's not too intrusive. It does prevent the passenger seat from reclining all the way. But there is room for the seat to travel back all the way and swivel. I suppose the size of the van also matters.

[Automotive Innovations]

its the only option for passenger transfer seat now since vangator is no longer made isnt it??

it isn't a option i'd ever go with.

vangaters are easily overhauled.

Jim

[Automotive Innovations]

Ricon Uni-Lite is a double post lift but it's not too intrusive. It does prevent the passenger seat from reclining all the way. But there is room for the seat to travel back all the way and swivel. I suppose the size of the van also matters.

Ricon Uni-Lite is a great lift.

especially for quads that can't roll up the endgate on a steel platform lift.

jim

[August West]

Ricon seems to make good stuff in general. My Ricon transfer seat looks clean and simple compared to the rat's nest under my friend's Braun transfer seat. The Ricon RDO2500 sliding door operator is the only part of the conversion that doesn't work flawlessly. It can't open the door when the van is parked facing downhill. No problem when parking uphill. I had the door checked out and it works fine. Maybe the motor is giving out. I guess that's still pretty impressive for a 26 years old motor.

[STOLhorse]

I've had a Slideaway lift in my Sprinter for 6 years (over 7000 cycles) now and I think it is a good lift. I've only had one issue with it when the wire bundle got loose and broke a couple of wires but it was easily fixed. I use a manual chair and I can completely turn around in the van so the size of the lift has never been a problem for me. I would hate to have a lift that blocked the doorway all the time.

If only my sprinter was as reliable as the lift.....

[August West]

I hear what you are saying. Reliability is an important factor. I thought about replacing my Uni-Lite lift with a swing away lift in order to have access to the door for manual operation in case of failure. But this was more of an emotional response to feeling trapped. Rethinking it unemotionally I have to say that's a step in the wrong direction. Based on the number of moving parts and the complexity of the design, chances of door operator failures are less than chances of lift failures and chances of Uni-Lite lift failures are less than chances of swing away lift failures. Hence, replacing the Uni-Lite lift with a swing away lift does not decrease risk of failure. It only mitigates door operator failure by increasing lift failure, which increases overall failure risk. I conclude the best way to minimize overall failure risk is to stick with the most basic lift (Uni-Lite) and mitigate the door operator failure risk with preventive maintenance.

Going back to the emotional aspect of the problem, I have to wonder why I read so much here about van conversion failures and hardly anything about car failures. What's the difference if you are stranded in a van or a car? I really think much of this worrying is excessive. After all, I hear more people reporting that they have had little to no problems than people reporting on-going problems. The problems I had were just start up issues.

If you do have one failure in the door operator every ten years, so what? The chances of a flat tire are probably worse. I don't sweat a flat tire. I'm not going to sweat this.

[nonoise]

I've had a Slideaway lift in my Sprinter for 6 years (over 7000 cycles) now and I think it is a good lift. I've only had one issue with it when the wire bundle got loose and broke a couple of wires but it was easily fixed. I use a manual chair and I can completely turn around in the van so the size of the lift has never been a problem for me. I would hate to have a lift that blocked the doorway all the time.

If only my sprinter was as reliable as the lift.....

The Slideaway I tried was in a Dodge Promaster. It seemed like a tight fit. The specs say it protrudes 21 inches into the cab. Without having an actual passenger seat that swiveled I could not tell if there was enough room, there might have been, but it was a gamble. On the other hand when I checked out the van that had the Vanagater II there was no question in my mind that there was plenty of floor space.

I guess there is more than that. I had mentally prepared myself to pay out of pocket $10k (no insurance) which is what he had told me a few months ago. But when he emailed me the quote, it was $12k. I felt more crowded.

[fuentejps]

The Slideaway I tried was in a Dodge Promaster. It seemed like a tight fit. The specs say it protrudes 21 inches into the cab. Without having an actual passenger seat that swiveled I could not tell if there was enough room, there might have been, but it was a gamble. On the other hand when I checked out the van that had the Vanagater II there was no question in my mind that there was plenty of floor space.

I guess there is more than that. I had mentally prepared myself to pay out of pocket $10k (no insurance) which is what he had told me a few months ago. But when he emailed me the quote, it was $12k. I felt more crowded.

no issue with vangator. i have both transfer seats. maybe call around and see if anyone still has a vangator

[Spitzbub]

it isn't a option i'd ever go with.

vangaters are easily overhauled.

Jim

Hi, Jim. Why exactly don't you like the Ricon slide-away lift? We are trying to create access for the wheelchair in the passenger slot, but the conversion guy we're working with isn't a fan of single-post lifts. With your professional experience, I'm very interested in your take (if you can share here). Thanks.

John

[Automotive Innovations]

Hi, Jim. Why exactly don't you like the Ricon slide-away lift? We are trying to create access for the wheelchair in the passenger slot, but the conversion guy we're working with isn't a fan of single-post lifts. With your professional experience, I'm very interested in your take (if you can share here). Thanks.

John

Hi John,

Feel free to call if you want (mid week afternoons are usually best)

From the first day i saw them and how they worked i knew we'd never install one.

It was the same even after they stopped building them for a while.

Get a Vangatter II you will be much happier.

Jim