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    Hello All,
    I am a total newbie at this whole thing and receiving my chair by the end of the month. Reading through a bunch of threads has made me think about the fitment of the chair and what to look for when the chair is delivered. I ordered a Tilite ZRA, I was measure by the sales guy and I figured that was that but now reading through a bunch of posts where people complain that their chair does not fit them well or issues with their chairs right off the bat.

    So, being that I am a complete newbie what should I look for during the first fitting? When I was in inpatient rehab I was first put into a folding 40lb hospital chair and then they were nice enough to let me use an aluminum Quickie for three weeks, I will say the difference was amazing not only in comfort but also in performance. When I left inpatient they loaned me another 40lb folding chair which immediately cause some pretty bad lower back pain which I am still living with 7 weeks later. This has been my extent of experience with wheelchairs.

    How do I know if my chair fits me well?

    What should I look for during the pre-delivery inspection? I figure a once over to make sure all the fasteners look to be tightened make sure it sits square on the floor but anything else?

    Thanks.

    Cheers,
    Jim

  • #2
    What chair are you getting? Brand and model? With that info people here can tell you things to look for.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by baldfatdad View Post
      What chair are you getting? Brand and model? With that info people here can tell you things to look for.
      if you read his post he said a TiLite ZRA

      regarding what you should look for is if you are comfortable in the chair IE no back pain can wheel effectively and such stuff, it will no doubt be lighter than the hunk of junk you have now but basically look for comfort make sure you are sitting in the chair not on the chair so to speak you have the axle of the back wheels down far enough so when you stretch your arms down the axle is at least to your middle finger if not a tad lower. and it is comfortable to wheel not straining your arms or shoulders.
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      • #4
        Things I would check are:

        - Finger tips touch the top/middle of the hubs with arms hanging down, relaxed.

        - Heels touch footrest, preferably with slight downward angle.

        - Axle position isn't too forward/rear tippy.

        - Back Of legs have clearance from the front of seat pan

        - Hips aren't rubbing wheels/flexing side guards out

        - Adjust back angle to taste (I prefer 90deg to floor, with adjustable upholstery for small tweaks)


        Those are the basics. A lot of these are set at build time, and initial measurement, but the ZRA has some wiggle room, which is good.

        Good Luck!
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        • #5
          Did you get a CAD drawing (blueprint) and sign off on it? It seems to me unless you are getting this chair "on approval of fit" about all you can do is check specifications (dimensions) and workmanship such as welds. The good news is that your chair will be a ZRA which is very adjustable, so the provider should be able to help you make it fit to suit you. If not post here with pictures of you sitting in chair. There are folks here who know these things backward and forward to give advice.
          I have had periodic paralysis all my life. I lost my ability to walk in 2011 beginning with a spinal block, which was used for a hip fracture caused by periodic paralysis.

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          • #6
            I am surprised you made this purchase without the guidance of a qualified PT/seating clinic. My insurance would never pay for my new chair without both. Sounds very odd to me. Did none of your physicians or PTs talk to you about the fitting... or the rep who sold it to you?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by oncetherwasagirl View Post
              i am surprised you made this purchase without the guidance of a qualified pt/seating clinic. My insurance would never pay for my new chair without both. Sounds very odd to me. Did none of your physicians or pts talk to you about the fitting... Or the rep who sold it to you?
              most pt's ect dont know much, they think they do but if they arent in a chair they are really just making an educated guess. None of my ins has ever needed a pt for a new chair just lmn from my sci dr. Thats for last 30 yrs.private ins.

              To op, if you didnt get a cad and approve it, well that may be a problem. i hope not. Was the sales guy in a chair?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by fuentejps View Post
                most pt's ect dont know much, they think they do but if they arent in a chair they are really just making an educated guess. None of my ins has ever needed a pt for a new chair just lmn from my sci dr. Thats for last 30 yrs.private ins.

                To op, if you didnt get a cad and approve it, well that is a problem. Was the sales guy in a chair?

                Does TiLite send a CAD by default for an adjustable chair? I seem to remember, from quite a while back, they might not.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Oddity View Post
                  Does TiLite send a CAD by default for an adjustable chair? I seem to remember, from quite a while back, they might not.
                  needs requested. i am not certain if they send any out by default, i always request on every chair.
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                  • #10
                    My use of manual chair is limited. My first chair was manual but had to be pushed by others.
                    Wish you had seating clinic done. Measurements posted already sound great.
                    Only thing I'd add is if you have not demoed a model of this then try this one out in situations you normally will be doing.
                    Check balance of your normal movements and stability of chair. If you are going be stowing in car, etc be sure you are able to reach hubs, lift, etc.
                    Be sure think ahead, wearing jackets/coats, etc. and if enough room but not so much as end up leaning.
                    If you have doubts, problems or a chair shows up with something other than ordered I'd suggest not accepting it.

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                    • #11
                      People here are giving great advice regarding the overall fit of a chair.

                      But in a more realistic light, if you're asking what the DME might be able to do to adjust the chair, a ZRA's only adjustments are dump (how low the back of the seat is to the frame) and backrest angle. Depending on your choice of footrest, the angle and height of this is probably adjustable as well.

                      Make them adjust it until it fits right (especially the back angle, this is a bitch to adjust on your own), then go home and live with it for a few days. If you want to tweak it, bring it back and make them adjust it. They've gotta do something for the money they're making, right?

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                      • #12
                        From the tilite website:
                        Product Details:
                        • Adjustable seat, back, & center of gravity
                        I have had periodic paralysis all my life. I lost my ability to walk in 2011 beginning with a spinal block, which was used for a hip fracture caused by periodic paralysis.

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                        • #13
                          Front seat height is also adjustable +\- .5" without changing caster sizes, more of you want to change them. Footrest height is also adjustable. So is wheel spacing. Camber is changeable, not really "adjustable", but you can swap camber tubes if you want to change that.
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                          • #14
                            Added inch to the top frame rail for more space to grab while transferring. The beauty of the ZRA as a first chair is you'll be able to dial in your preferences for the next one. How much dump did the DME measure? For a T/10; a 2" dump is pretty standard.

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                            • #15
                              Hello All,
                              Thanks so much for the reply's. Yes, I had not only the sales guy measure me but my OT as well as the woman who does all things wheelchairs at the rehabilitation place I was at (Burke in White Plains, NY). He asked a lot of questions about how active I am and what I will being doing in my chair and discussed different options with my OT and me, he was not in a chair but has been measuring chairs for 5 years and before that worked with a adaptive skiers and ski chairs. I am a bit of a control freak as well as being a bit particular and being a newbie I am not well versed in how this should go. I did receive the CAD drawing of my chair, asked for it, and have cross checked it with the original order form and everything lines up as far as I can tell but was not asked to sign off on anything, guessing my sales guy did. We talked about different models that Tilite offers and he did suggest the ZRA because of the adjustability and being able to make small changes to suit me over time.

                              As for the "dump", a phrase I just learned when buying off road wheels, I am at 2", 19.5" in front without the cushion. I attached the CAD drawing if that helps, the order form is to big to attach.

                              They have the CG set at 2.5". Curious what you guys run once you are comfortable in your chairs?

                              I will tell you that I am stoked to get out of the POS I am in and into my new chair. The count down is on and it should ship on the 26th. I did make one change to the chair last minute. I bought a Freewheel attachment and read one to many reports of the adjustable angle footrest breaking because of the load the Freewheel puts on the footrest so I went with the tubular footrest with the deck on it. I talked to Tilite and while the woman I talked to said the adjustable angle footrest would work with the Freewheel she also said the other footrests were substantially stronger.

                              Thanks again.

                              Cheers,
                              Jim
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