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    I wonder why now one the left 1 the bearing has slid out of place last week right now left

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    pic?
    Chas
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    • #3
      Originally posted by chasmengr View Post
      pic?
      I can/t have a flip phone

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      • #4
        My casters have internal and external spacers, which hold the bearings firmly in place. Do you have spacers?
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        Chas
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        I am a person with mild/moderate hexaparesis (impaired movement in 4 limbs, head, & torso) caused by RRMS w/TM C7&T7 incomplete.

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        • #5
          Either no spacer or the bolt going thru the fork needs to be tightened.

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          • #6
            Silly question . . . and Patrick would know best . . . are the days of two forward casters antiquated? Why have no manufacturers figured out a way to have one forward (maybe larger) caster?

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            • #7
              No silly question at all. In earlier days there were chairs with just one large wheel in the front or in the back.; almost like the Freewheel. Sports chairs used them for a while but we found with sharp turns or uneven surfaces, it would tend to make the chair tip and went back to the four wheels setup.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Patrick Madsen View Post
                No silly question at all. In earlier days there were chairs with just one large wheel in the front or in the back.; almost like the Freewheel. Sports chairs used them for a while but we found with sharp turns or uneven surfaces, it would tend to make the chair tip and went back to the four wheels setup.
                I took an old Shadow tennis chair and modified it for an everyday chair. I changed it to have zero camber, and an eight inch pneumatic caster mounted Freewheel style. I also changed the underseat crossmember to allow the smartdrive battery clearance.

                Lately I have had to finish the project with footrests and anti tippers. It has never been sideways tippy, I don't know why, it just is not. The rigors of a tennis court might be different. But the smart drive clone caused too much acceleration, so I added the anti tips.

                This chair is unbelievably fast, easy to push. It rolls if the brakes are not set. I've transferred into the barber chair and the barber unlocked the brakes and moved the chair to the other side of the room. It then rolled back on it's own. Boy was he surprised, I chuckled.
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                • #9
                  Nonoise - that's a pretty cool setup and I imagine weight distribution has a lot to do with stability. The caster is out so far forward there's little weight on it.



                  Four wheels are inherently more stable than three. Three might be fine at slow speeds or on smooth or flat surfaces (like a tennis court), but I wouldn't want to take three outside on uneven pavement and in any kind of hurry. going straight would be okay, but watch out in turns.

                  If three wheels were as stable as four, all cars would have three wheels to save on costs. A few car companies have tried it. Polaris has the Slingshot and Elio Motors has it's car, but they hve two in front and one in back for stability in turns.

                  As an example of why you want two wheels in front, there's the Relinat Robin:

                  Last edited by brian; 01-23-2018, 02:46 PM.

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                  • #10
                    I remember in the early 80's I saw a chair with one large wheel under the foot rest. It was a ball, like the track balls that use to be on computers.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by brian View Post
                      Nonoise - that's a pretty cool setup and I imagine weight distribution has a lot to do with stability. The caster is out so far forward there's little weight on it.



                      Four wheels are inherently more stable than three. Three might be fine at slow speeds or on smooth or flat surfaces (like a tennis court), but I wouldn't want to take three outside on uneven pavement and in any kind of hurry. going straight would be okay, but watch out in turns.

                      If three wheels were as stable as four, all cars would have three wheels to save on costs. A few car companies have tried it. Polaris has the Slingshot and Elio Motors has it's car, but they hve two in front and one in back for stability in turns.

                      As an example of why you want two wheels in front, there's the Relinat Robin:

                      I've used my highly modified three wheel Shadow chair outdoors for over four years on uneven pavement or off trail, straight or turns, not worrying about speed too much. As you point out the long wheelbase is important, but also is my 8 inch pneumatic caster. Another is that I straightened the steering axle to perpendicular from the original. I suspect by design even the Freewheel's is not perpendicular. I have not had one incident of front tipping in those four years and I have taken it in places most all wheelchairs cannot go. Also it rolls faster than I can get other chairs up to since that wheel never shimmies. Here is a youtube we made for another purpose. It does not show how versatile this chair is since it was done at a childrens park, but it's what I've got.
                      https://youtu.be/p9nYkKIm-uo

                      Also as for the Reliant Robin episode, check out this video rebuttal confession. He rigged it to flip.
                      http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...-a6810016.html
                      Last edited by nonoise; 01-23-2018, 10:40 PM.
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                      • #12
                        Why would television lie to me?


                        I know this sin't exactly the same, but I broke a plastic caster while on vacation by running into a broken curb cut the wrong way. The impact just ripped through all three spokes and the wheel dangled freely on the hub (I now only use solid machined aluminum caster wheels). Missing a caster, of course, made my chair really unstable. I had to be very careful about not leaning forward at all.

                        Therefore, I have a slightly irrational aversion to any three wheeled vehicle/chair design.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by nonoise View Post
                          I took an old Shadow tennis chair and modified it for an everyday chair. I changed it to have zero camber, and an eight inch pneumatic caster mounted Freewheel style. I also changed the underseat crossmember to allow the smartdrive battery clearance.

                          Lately I have had to finish the project with footrests and anti tippers. It has never been sideways tippy, I don't know why, it just is not. The rigors of a tennis court might be different. But the smart drive clone caused too much acceleration, so I added the anti tips.

                          This chair is unbelievably fast, easy to push. It rolls if the brakes are not set. I've transferred into the barber chair and the barber unlocked the brakes and moved the chair to the other side of the room. It then rolled back on it's own. Boy was he surprised, I chuckled.
                          I like what you have modified.
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                          • #14
                            it was a bearing it just went inside the wheel danged if the other did the same thing a week later so I got my old one on

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