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    SmartDrive Improvements?

    At the Sept. 2016 Abilities Expo in Boston I "heard" there will be some new improvements or upgrades to the SmartDrive push assist device in January 2017. Anybody hear or know anything?

    Thanks.

    #2
    Call them. They might tell you. This company's track record is like no other when it comes to customer relations. Announcing an upcoming upgrade may hurt current sales, but Mark the owner is truly a nice guy. And no, I am not now even using my Smartdrive.
    I have had periodic paralysis all my life. I lost my ability to walk in 2011 beginning with a spinal block, which was used for a hip fracture caused by periodic paralysis.

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      #3
      I did email them and they said "they are continually working on improvements to the SmartDrive". No specifics though. Why don't you use yours anymore?

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        #4
        Originally posted by smokey View Post
        I did email them and they said "they are continually working on improvements to the SmartDrive". No specifics though. Why don't you use yours anymore?
        If you called, you could pin them down politely asking if the rumor about Jan is true or not because you are about to spring for a new one.

        As for my use,...it's a long story, I'll condense. I picked up a second one off Craigs and modified it removing the pc board and setting the battery aside, purchasing another lighter one. Then I added off the shelf e-bike controls such as on/off switch and a thumb speed control. Those and the battery are permanently mounted to my three wheel wheelchair. No more pushing on the handrims or stalling. Just turn it on and go. Steering is by slowing down and light rim hand brake on one side. It's been great. The only issue is extreme caution at startup as acceleration can be overwhelming.

        So why stop? My condition is a degenerative one. When I started on CC I could self propel a chair with my feet and did not need a foot rest. Now my legs need a footrest and I cannot use that three wheeled chair as is. The way it's setup with the freewheel type caster and my long legs, I haven't figured a footrest method for it that I like. Sorry you asked yet?

        In the interim I took up that offer here for the Iglide. It's probably too heavy for most uses without a lift, but doggone that chair is sweet. Did you try the Tailwind (Iglide)? I do need to fix up a better battery for this one somehow. I wish I had an old dead battery for one. I need an empty battery case for the connection and hanger.
        I have had periodic paralysis all my life. I lost my ability to walk in 2011 beginning with a spinal block, which was used for a hip fracture caused by periodic paralysis.

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          #5
          Someone on eBay is selling a new MX2 SmartDrive for $5,000.

          http://www.ebay.com/itm/smart-drive-...AAAOSwnbZYGQNc

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            #6
            Is the $4,000 one on ebay still there too?
            http://www.ebay.com/itm/Smartdrive-P...3D282241295001
            I have had periodic paralysis all my life. I lost my ability to walk in 2011 beginning with a spinal block, which was used for a hip fracture caused by periodic paralysis.

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              #7
              I know Fuentes uses 1 but I was a afraid of putting on and off I went wth emotion trying them out there are quiet a few of them from 1300 up how heavy and how do they work

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                #8
                smoke, look at the alber setup. heres a quad vid, he preferred them.
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                  #9
                  Thanks Fu. That guy did a nice review of the Twion. Gee, that's a really a stupid name for such a nice product. Those power assist wheels look very cool and seem to perform great. I do like the smartphone features it utilizes and those magnetic charge cables are clever. But each wheel weighs 13lbs. and they only have a 24" wheel right now. Plus it requires pneumatic tires. I am currently running 25" Spinergy LX wheels with solid rubber SHOX tires, Q-Grip hand rims and I'm extremely happy with the setup. I have tried the SmartDrive twice at the Abilities Expo the past two years and I think it would suit my needs just fine. I'm always on the lookout for new products and thanks for the great information.

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                    #10
                    NO PROB SMOKE. I USE HIS REVIEW BECAUSE HE HAD SMARTDRIVE FIRST. FOR ME THE MX2 IS A GOOD FIT





                    Originally posted by smokey View Post
                    Thanks Fu. That guy did a nice review of the Twion. Gee, that's a really a stupid name for such a nice product. Those power assist wheels look very cool and seem to perform great. I do like the smartphone features it utilizes and those magnetic charge cables are clever. But each wheel weighs 13lbs. and they only have a 24" wheel right now. Plus it requires pneumatic tires. I am currently running 25" Spinergy LX wheels with solid rubber SHOX tires, Q-Grip hand rims and I'm extremely happy with the setup. I have tried the SmartDrive twice at the Abilities Expo the past two years and I think it would suit my needs just fine. I'm always on the lookout for new products and thanks for the great information.
                    Bike-on.com rep
                    John@bike-on.com
                    c4/5 inc funtioning c6. 28 yrs post.
                    sponsored handcycle racer

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                      #11
                      What you describe as far as altering smart drive is what I would hope and and have asked Max mobility to consider that is offer another way to control verses the Blue tooth wristband which IMO is fatally flawed ... I would like to see a 2 or 3 speed and on/off switch so we can control the thing instead of always guessing what it's gonna do. it's a greal little invention but mine also mostly sits in garage as i can't control it and also haven't figured out how to attach it to my chair while still in my vehicle. May have to consider mini-van Thats on me but hopefully smart drive people are working on the controls as far as January innovation goes. Personally i would not buy one until I see what they are doing to improve wristband and Blue tooth just my opinion. They do respond when asked questions and want me to send in a video of it acting up not sure how to shoot the video but will try






                      [QUOTE=nonoise;1815508]If you called, you could pin them down politely asking if the rumor about Jan is true or not because you are about to spring for a new one.

                      As for my use,...it's a long story, I'll condense. I picked up a second one off Craigs and modified it removing the pc board and setting the battery aside, purchasing another lighter one. Then I added off the shelf e-bike controls such as on/off switch and a thumb speed control. Those and the battery are permanently mounted to my three wheel wheelchair. No more pushing on the handrims or stalling. Just turn it on and go. Steering is by slowing down and light rim hand brake on one side. It's been great. The only issue is extreme caution at startup as acceleration can be overwhelming.

                      So why stop? My condition is a degenerative one. When I started on CC I could self propel a chair with my feet and did not need a foot rest. Now my legs need a footrest and I cannot use that three wheeled chair as is. The way it's setup with the freewheel type caster and my long legs, I haven't figured a footrest method for it that I like. Sorry you asked yet?

                      In the interim I took up that offer here for the Iglide. It's probably too heavy for most uses without a lift, but doggone that chair is sweet. Did you try the Tailwind (Iglide)? I do need to fix up a better battery for this one somehow. I wish I had an old dead battery for one. I need an empty battery case for the connection and hanger.[/QUOTE

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                        . it's a greal little invention but mine also mostly sits in garage as i can't control it and also haven't figured out how to attach it to my chair while still in my vehicle. May have to consider mini-van Thats on me but hopefully smart drive people are working on the controls as far as January innovation goes. Personally i would not buy one until I see what they are doing to improve wristband and Blue tooth just my opinion. They do respond when asked questions and want me to send in a video of it acting up not sure how to shoot the video but will try

                        I'm a T4 complete, all I have is arms n shoulders, not counting my mouth lol. I have only had mine long enough to use it a few times totaling about an hour. I wait until I am sitting in my chair and get it out of the truck, into my lap, then I pass it behind my back and 'feel' for the place it goes by sliding it around a bit. Still trying to figure out the best angle and such but as I said I've only used it a few times. It took me the longest the first time, I had to use both hands behind me also, about 30 seconds. My new JAVA back made that feat possible. In my old chair with a standard cloth back I would have fell over.
                        I have to stay on the alert with pushing still, it is by no means natural to me and on alert also to slapping my hand to the handrim to get it to stop. First time trying it out at seating specialist, I pushed to go out the door, BIG push as usual, I don't poke around, and flew out the door, grabbed the rim to turn a ninety to miss the wall, flew down the hall and tried turning a 180 and promptly ran into the wall, SD still going at full speed, me holding both rims and sliding slowly down the wall/hall sideways. They ran up and turned it off.
                        The day I got in my chair and put it on at the rehab for the first try, same thing, only there was an AB sitting in a seat across from the door, ran smack over him immediately! Turned it off by slamming my hand into the rim...apologized profusely, he didn't look like a happy camper. Embarrassed the heck out of me.
                        Tried it for a few minutes in the hut a few days later before I went shopping. Start and stop, start and stop, trying to muscle imprint that motion to make it automatic, at least a little bit anyway. Like I said, I put about %25 of my feeble mind on the brake reflex. Now I'm just waiting for the rain to stop so I can head for a few remote places I like to go. Clingman's Dome Road is already closed for winter sadly. Anxious to try it out on some trails in the woods when they are dry. With the relatively cheap electric bike drives and Battery tech as it stands now, me and ebay are gonna be busy in the near future, see if I can make something out of all the aluminum tubing and wheelchairs laying around here to get back in the woods.
                        I can't see any way to mount the SD from the truck nor the car.

                        Looked at ebay earlier today and there are a handful of them(MX2) for sale at first glance, One for a bit over a grand and one minimum 1500 for starters. I think they will be like chairs pretty soon, relatively cheap, just have to keep an eye out for a good deal and jump on it. I found a powerchair for 250 bucks this summer, hardly a scratch on it, had to drive about 450 miles round trip to bring it home but I like driving anyway. Thank the Good Lord above for that deal, everything I have pc wise is broke.

                        https://www.facebook.com/john.baxter.1213986

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                          #13
                          NONOISE, I have a picture of your 3 wheel wc in my to build folder. That is a good looking machine you made. MY long legs and footplate placement has me scratching my head also. I am stuck on short length and can't figure a way around it, except for retractable/collapsable pole for holding the front wheel. Would be good with an angle adjustable one also for going down hills. After searching through a few new 3 wheel electric drive chairs from various individuals out there in the +10K range, tricycle with the single drive wheel being in the back seems to be the better approach for us gangly legged folks.

                          https://www.facebook.com/john.baxter.1213986

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by CapnGimp View Post
                            NONOISE, I have a picture of your 3 wheel wc in my to build folder. That is a good looking machine you made. MY long legs and footplate placement has me scratching my head also. I am stuck on short length and can't figure a way around it, except for retractable/collapsable pole for holding the front wheel. Would be good with an angle adjustable one also for going down hills. After searching through a few new 3 wheel electric drive chairs from various individuals out there in the +10K range, tricycle with the single drive wheel being in the back seems to be the better approach for us gangly legged folks.

                            Thanks Capn. Unfortunately in the last few months my degenerative condition has cost me needing to use a footrest. When I rebuilt that chair I could keep my feet back and up out of the way, but no longer. So what I?ve tried and use on other chairs when I'm outside are bungie cords around my shoes and hooked to the handlle on the Supracor cushion. That is working for now exccept on the three wheeler. The caster wheel on the three wheeler still got in the way of my feet due to the extreme trail which I am reluctant to tamper with because it is a major part of what makes the chair perform so nicely. When I added that extreme trail the chair became a dream to push and tracked unbelievably straight.

                            The original tennis chair I made it from had a tiny caster in front and a foot rest sort of tucked under the seat. The footrest was too cramped for me to use. I saw one of the chairs for sale once with a modified foot rest as a bar type thing across the top near the caster housing. I might try that.

                            My recumbent electric trike, (power rear wheel) is as you say two in front and one in back. The issue there is what happens when you get stuck? There are no handrims handy to bail you out.
                            I have had periodic paralysis all my life. I lost my ability to walk in 2011 beginning with a spinal block, which was used for a hip fracture caused by periodic paralysis.

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                              #15
                              I'm a T4 para. When I use smartdrive, I simply put the chair on the ground, turn it so the back faces me while I'm still in the drivers seat, put the SD on, turn the chair and transfer into it ready to go. I've used it for a couple of years now, so its pretty much second nature, although this MX2 is much more intuitive than the MX1 where you had to press a button. Great device.

                              Originally posted by CapnGimp View Post
                              . it's a greal little invention but mine also mostly sits in garage as i can't control it and also haven't figured out how to attach it to my chair while still in my vehicle. May have to consider mini-van Thats on me but hopefully smart drive people are working on the controls as far as January innovation goes. Personally i would not buy one until I see what they are doing to improve wristband and Blue tooth just my opinion. They do respond when asked questions and want me to send in a video of it acting up not sure how to shoot the video but will try

                              I'm a T4 complete, all I have is arms n shoulders, not counting my mouth lol. I have only had mine long enough to use it a few times totaling about an hour. I wait until I am sitting in my chair and get it out of the truck, into my lap, then I pass it behind my back and 'feel' for the place it goes by sliding it around a bit. Still trying to figure out the best angle and such but as I said I've only used it a few times. It took me the longest the first time, I had to use both hands behind me also, about 30 seconds. My new JAVA back made that feat possible. In my old chair with a standard cloth back I would have fell over.
                              I have to stay on the alert with pushing still, it is by no means natural to me and on alert also to slapping my hand to the handrim to get it to stop. First time trying it out at seating specialist, I pushed to go out the door, BIG push as usual, I don't poke around, and flew out the door, grabbed the rim to turn a ninety to miss the wall, flew down the hall and tried turning a 180 and promptly ran into the wall, SD still going at full speed, me holding both rims and sliding slowly down the wall/hall sideways. They ran up and turned it off.
                              The day I got in my chair and put it on at the rehab for the first try, same thing, only there was an AB sitting in a seat across from the door, ran smack over him immediately! Turned it off by slamming my hand into the rim...apologized profusely, he didn't look like a happy camper. Embarrassed the heck out of me.
                              Tried it for a few minutes in the hut a few days later before I went shopping. Start and stop, start and stop, trying to muscle imprint that motion to make it automatic, at least a little bit anyway. Like I said, I put about %25 of my feeble mind on the brake reflex. Now I'm just waiting for the rain to stop so I can head for a few remote places I like to go. Clingman's Dome Road is already closed for winter sadly. Anxious to try it out on some trails in the woods when they are dry. With the relatively cheap electric bike drives and Battery tech as it stands now, me and ebay are gonna be busy in the near future, see if I can make something out of all the aluminum tubing and wheelchairs laying around here to get back in the woods.
                              I can't see any way to mount the SD from the truck nor the car.

                              Looked at ebay earlier today and there are a handful of them(MX2) for sale at first glance, One for a bit over a grand and one minimum 1500 for starters. I think they will be like chairs pretty soon, relatively cheap, just have to keep an eye out for a good deal and jump on it. I found a powerchair for 250 bucks this summer, hardly a scratch on it, had to drive about 450 miles round trip to bring it home but I like driving anyway. Thank the Good Lord above for that deal, everything I have pc wise is broke.

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