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    What does everyone use for a bed/air mattress? I used to use a KCI low loss air mattress that had a pump to keep it inflated. It was getting pretty bad with me sinking in, so I got a replacement a year ago. My DME provider gave another mattress that was new to me, but is apparently also old technology. After one year, I'm now sinking into it as well and no replacement parts available.

    So, what do you use? I have 3 pressure sores already, so it needs to be something helpful for that. I also do almost everything from bed and sit as well as lay down. Another problem is that my bed frame is apparently 2" shorter than most. When I got in college, I didn't realize they had different length hospital beds. My DME did try a mattress that had air cylinders running from top to bottom, but it didn't fit my bed and wouldn't bend.

    Any advice would be appreciated as I need to get something to help healing and that will function for me. Thanks.
    C2/3 quad since February 20, 1985.

    #2
    Assume you cannot turn yourself? You may want to try to get a turning low air loss mattress. We use the TurnCair Plus from Triline often for this purpose. You can set the turning function for both time and angle of turn, and can turn off that function when you don't like being turned (such as when sitting up in bed to eat). A caregiver would need to make these adjustments...it does not have a remote control.

    http://www.trilinemedical.com/Produc...roup=0&Item=16

    (KLD)
    The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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      #3
      Hi KLD, nope I can't move a thing (C2/3 vent dependent). My night caregivers turn me every 2 hours. I tried one of those mattresses at Craig, my lung collapsed after 3 days.
      C2/3 quad since February 20, 1985.

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        #4
        OK, I remember that now. You could use the Triline TxCair Plus instead then.

        http://www.trilinemedical.com/docs/P..._ebrochure.pdf

        (KLD)
        The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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          #5
          That looks very similar to the current system which does (did) work well. Thanks.
          C2/3 quad since February 20, 1985.

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            #6
            SPAN America will allow you to trial a mattress (they call them "surfaces" now, I suppose to charge more for them!) for 30-45 days. I'm trying the CustomCare Non-Powered myself. But they have lots of options, including "The Topper". I think they are at least partly owned by Hill-Rom now, as they teamed up in 2004 when H-R was designing the VersaCare and Total Care beds.

            Best luck to you. Let me know if you try the SPAN America offerings and what you think. I've heard that they are comparable in quality to H-R mattresses, if not better, and they are significantly cheaper. I'm paying out of pocket for mine once I get the money.

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              #7
              Who pays for the mattresses? When my (eventually) stage IV sores on my butt and back were open, and I went to the hospital, some doctor ordered low air loss, lateral rotation mattress from Clinidyne, which Medicare covered. 2.5 years later, the pump died, and I discovered the company was out of business when the DME company told me there were no parts available for repair, and, because it hadn't been five years, Medicare wouldn't pay for a similar new mattress from another company. Replacement was an alternating pressure mattress. Butt has been okay (occasional little shear or spot that heal quickly), so I don't qualify for a new LAL, LR mattress.
              Alan

              Proofread carefully to see if you any words out.

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                #8
                Private insurance covers most of my equipment, including mattress.
                C2/3 quad since February 20, 1985.

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                  #9
                  I've been looking at SPAN American mattresses myself. For someone without current issues with pressure sores, are their non-powered mattresses sufficient? Transfer Master offers the PressureGuard CFT with their bed frames, but I think that it is the lowest version of non-powered "Surfaces". Is the Custom Care a better option? I am also going through private insurance, who should hopefully pay for whatever I need.

                  For the last 12 years since my injury, I have been using a KCI AtmosAir turning mattress because I initially had issues with pressure sores in the hospital right after my injury. I haven't used the turning feature in about eight years, and it has worked well. I'm not able to be turned throughout the night, so is it at all important to get a self turning mattress if my skin does well without turning?

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                    #10
                    I am using a Span America ,Pressure Guard Customcare convertible......I live alone and have had many sores in recent years...a big plus to this one compared to my last low air loss ,is that when the power goes out you still have cushion ! I am happy so far......the cover tor ,but they did replace. All seem to get the "butt sink hole" but if I adjust the setting periodically and shut off during day ...auto inflate sometimes it seems to help ....use that bed control, All night, raise and lower legs and head often ,,,,,will help .especially when your on your own ....26 years....butt looks rough "butt" still here !!!!!!!!!!!!

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                      #11
                      SCI Nurse, at the moment, I have a small red area on my butt. We could heal it ourselves, as we've done other times, but would it allow Visiting Nurses to order me a new mattress? Once a Stage IV, always a Stage iV?
                      Alan

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                        #12
                        My mattress is an Atmos Air with "Self Adjusting Technology" but I think it has been discontinued. Even though it has "air tubes" in it, I like that it is nonpowered and thus (seemingly) more durable.

                        A quadriplegic friend of mine uses a Stat H20™ water filled mattress overlay, which can be selected from this link:

                        http://www.bluechipmedical.com/mattress-overlays/

                        He has had pressure sore issues previously, but said that mattress overlay has helped. He wrote:

                        "As with any water bed, you just have to worry about leakage or a seam ripping and flooding your bedroom. They come with a patch kit. Just careful care and not filling it too full will allow you to have longer uninterrupted sleeptime." I think they can be purchased for $100 or less.
                        Wheelchair users -- even high-level quads... WANNA BOWL?

                        I'm a C1-2 with a legit 255 high bowling game.

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                          #13
                          Try a water mattress

                          Originally posted by trainman View Post
                          What does everyone use for a bed/air mattress? I used to use a KCI low loss air mattress that had a pump to keep it inflated. It was getting pretty bad with me sinking in, so I got a replacement a year ago. My DME provider gave another mattress that was new to me, but is apparently also old technology. After one year, I'm now sinking into it as well and no replacement parts available.

                          So, what do you use? I have 3 pressure sores already, so it needs to be something helpful for that. I also do almost everything from bed and sit as well as lay down. Another problem is that my bed frame is apparently 2" shorter than most. When I got in college, I didn't realize they had different length hospital beds. My DME did try a mattress that had air cylinders running from top to bottom, but it didn't fit my bed and wouldn't bend.

                          Any advice would be appreciated as I need to get something to help healing and that will function for me. Thanks.
                          I have been a C4 ? 5 quadriplegic for 33 years. I use a water mattress overlay like the one you can get at this website: http://www.bluechipmedical.com/mattr...lays/stat-h20/
                          You lay it on top of your regular mattress and it separates you and major pressure points from touching the bed. You don't have to turn nearly as often, however if you have breathing problems, it is not wise to stay in one position for a long time. When you are on your side, use pillows to separate your knees and ankles. Always wear booties and keep an eye on your heels and elbows. Follow instructions on how much water to use and obviously be careful of sharp objects. I have never had a serious pressure sore from laying in bed. Any red spot came from a bony area touching another for too long. That is why you separate them using pillows or cushions.

                          I do not use the gel additive. I have had great success with this product except for the occasional leak. Good luck. www.soundclick.com/jeffleslie

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Jeff Leslie View Post
                            I have been a C4 ? 5 quadriplegic for 33 years. I use a water mattress overlay like the one you can get at this website: http://www.bluechipmedical.com/mattr...lays/stat-h20/
                            You lay it on top of your regular mattress and it separates you and major pressure points from touching the bed. You don't have to turn nearly as often, however if you have breathing problems, it is not wise to stay in one position for a long time. When you are on your side, use pillows to separate your knees and ankles. Always wear booties and keep an eye on your heels and elbows. Follow instructions on how much water to use and obviously be careful of sharp objects. I have never had a serious pressure sore from laying in bed. Any red spot came from a bony area touching another for too long. That is why you separate them using pillows or cushions.

                            I do not use the gel additive. I have had great success with this product except for the occasional leak. Good luck. www.soundclick.com/jeffleslie
                            Welcome to CareCure my friend.

                            Thanks for elaborating on what I briefly mentioned above.
                            Wheelchair users -- even high-level quads... WANNA BOWL?

                            I'm a C1-2 with a legit 255 high bowling game.

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                              #15
                              Hi everybody, I'm a C3,4 incomplete quadriplegic and can feel pressure sensation everywhere. I spend a lot of time on my mattress.

                              I have been using an Invacare Low Air loss Matteress Micro Air Turn-Q for the past 17 years and it has been a great mattress but it has been breaking down over the past couple of years. I was able to find a replacement pump but that’s not the only problem. It has also been patched a few times. I need to get a new mattress. Lateral rotation has also been a benefit that I would like to have included in my next mattress.

                              Does anybody have an Invacare microAIR Lateral Rotation Mattress 90 Series? If so do you like it? COST $9,794.00

                              I was able to try a Span America PressureGuard Easy Air Low-air-loss Therapy with Alternating Pressure (COST $4,407.90) but it was extremely uncomfortable. Even at it's softest setting it still felt hard. I was also able to try a Honor 3000 (I don't remember how much this one cost) and it felt okay but still not as nice as my Invacare Low Air loss Micro Air Turn-Q.

                              The vendors I have called don't allow a trial of the mattresses except for the one place I was able to try those two mattresses. Does anybody know of any places or brands where you are able to try out a mattress before you purchase it?

                              Have a Happy New Year and I hope 2016 is better than the previous.
                              Sean K
                              Last edited by s.m.kelley; 31 Dec 2015, 7:52 PM.
                              SeanKelleys.com C-3,4 Incomplete Quadriplegic

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