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    My husband had to buy a new car and he bought his friends cheap 2000 MR2 Spyder. It is the tiniest convertible possible with barely enough room for humans much less my wheelchair and service dog. It doesn't even have a square inch behind the seats!

    So we obviously can't ride in the car together and go anywhere. If we needed to switch cars (I have a big SUV) because he needed to carry something big I couldn't even take his little car because my wheelchair won't even fit in the passenger seat it is so small and my service dog would have nowhere to ride.

    Oh, I have a TiLite ZRA if that helps...

    So my husband was trying to think of a cheap way that I would be able to use his car. His thought was a bike rack on the back that 'maybe' my chair could somehow be strapped to. I have NO idea if this would work but if it somehow failed there would go 6 grand and my way of getting around in life.

    I don't think we could afford to have a hitch put on and have some kind of attachment for my chair to sit on. We are super broke at this point with me out of work and all...

    Does anyone have any kind of idea of how we could get the chair safely attached to his little car?

    Thanks,
    Chanda & Peregrine SDIT

    #2
    Have you considered selling the MR2 and buying something more appropriate?

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      #3
      Originally posted by Chanda View Post
      Does anyone have any kind of idea of how we could get the chair safely attached to his little car?

      Thanks,
      Chanda & Peregrine SDIT
      Chandra, Have a look at this page - it may give you some ideas on how you can make it work.
      http://www.spyderchat.com/forums/sho...h-or-bike-rack

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        #4
        that Mod is pretty great!

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          #5
          My bigger concern is that your husband bought a car, esp. when your money is tight, that can't accommodate your wheelchair!
          (KLD)
          The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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            #6
            My car is a SUV and is perfect for me. It also is a gas hog!

            I guess i should have have mentioned that our long time family business tossed us out and trashed the whole business for no reason leaving both my husband and I jobless and homeless, down one car and with out any retirement or a future business to inherit like what was planned. Super long horrible store.

            My husband was able to find another job and we found a place to live in a nearby town. We had only a tiny amount of money and a friend had owned the car since it was new so we knew it was taken care of and we paid him nothing for it. It was kind of our only quick option. We didn't have much time with losing everything at once like that.

            So I am jobless and money is TIGHT! We were looking for an easy and CHEAP way to be able to use his car on occasion or if mine is in the shop or something. Most of the time we just take my car.

            And, yes, my husband is a major narcissist and wanted a tiny little convertible that was cheap on gas and easy to park in the big cities he has to drive to all the time...

            i really want to avoid having to pay to have a hitch installed. I don't think my husband is going to be able to pull that off.

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              #7
              Originally posted by SCI-Nurse View Post
              My bigger concern is that your husband bought a car, esp. when your money is tight, that can't accommodate your wheelchair!
              (KLD)
              Sorry Chanda, these are my sentiments too. Life is too short to stick with a difficult, frustrating automobile, even if it's cheap/free. What about selling the SUV and using the proceeds to buy 2 suitable used vehicles?
              Sounds like you have many issues to deal with and hope you take on one at a time, doing what's best for YOU.

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                #8
                There's a trunk mounted luggage rack available for the MR2 but they're not cheap (unless you get lucky and find a used one on Craigslist). Looking at pictures of the 2000 MR2 I can't see many cheap options other than somehow strapping the chair to the trunk with motorcycle tie downs - but you might see your chair bouncing down the highway if a strap came loose.

                For bike racks this page may give you some options - link

                I know you've stressed that money is tight but it doesn't sound like you need his car immediately either. If it were me I'd wait until I could afford the receiver hitch carrier. It seems the safest way to transport you, your dog and your chair.

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                  #9
                  Well, sad news is that there is no way we are selling our cars. Mine is PERFECT for me and I actually bought it specifically so my wheelchair could be rolled up into the back and then I can hobble around to get in the car. It works about as perfectly as anything I could have imagined. We drove my Element until 230,000 miles and I was desperate to have an easier way to transport my chair as the back was too small. So we got the Pilot and it is perfect.

                  Then we lost everything and my husband needed a car fast, his new work bought the car for him from our friend who took great care of it. My husband LOVES this car.

                  My dad owns a company called Moss Motors and they sell british car parts. I looked on his website and found many luggage racks like this http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewP...7&SortOrder=10

                  My dad already ordered us a new top for the MR2 through his company (we get it at his cost) because the top is full of holes so I bet he could order us a luggage rack for the back that would fit the MR2.

                  The questions is will it work? My husband said he is totally fine having a luggage rack on the back which I actually thought was a bit of a shock being as difficult as he is. Now I just need to figure out how it would fit on one and how to attach it and make SURE nothing happens to it. It is WAY to expensive of a chair to risk damage. I had to pay cash for it...

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                    #10
                    This is a rigid chair rack that I've looked for ever since I saw your post originally. I like the concept, but like you, I fear for the safety of the chair staying on the rack, and I also worry that some looky-loo not paying attention would rear end it and there would go the chair.

                    That rack seems to require that you either have someone load the chair, or be capable of hobbling around to the front. I haven't seen the rack anywhere else, and that site doesn't have any reviews, so that also concerns me.

                    Something else you could consider is getting a wide enough toolbox to accommodate the chair. I don't know if that would be possible, but I remember years ago having the camper on the back of our pickup, and a toolbox in front (on a front hitch) for even more supplies - about 3 ft x 2 ft x 2 ft. That would be an actual box you could put your chair in (provided you could find one) -- and you wouldn't have to worry about whether chair parts would go bouncing down the road...all you'd need is to be able to load the chair into the box.

                    You would have to check that the MR2 could handle a box of that type, though. It might weigh as much as the car!

                    Hitch boxes
                    Hitch box on vehicle (price is too high, look at the picture)

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                      #11
                      Wow! This brings up many memories as well as issues I've had!
                      I think the MR2 is perfect for the hubby. Economical as hell and fun as well! (I'm a seat of the pants kind of guy and sometimes impractical, but after a long look, decided my Lotus 7S was not a candidate for hand controls!)
                      I used to deal with the crew at Moss Motors East when they had the store near Dover. I'm Phil of Phils Foreign Car Service (www.philscars.com) and British cars led me down my path of destruction, although it was an italian motorcycle that ended it.

                      I've spent time considering the chair-rack for the MR2 and I think it's easily implemented and would have integrity.
                      Starting with the base as outlined in your link to the MR2 site: easy to accomplish; I have M22/2.0 die at my shop but would prefer to find a couple threaded hardware, cut the heads off, and weld them into a steel tube to get out to where the lateral cross-bar/base for the fabrication is. This will need to be robust so any torsional loads on the cross-bar don't allow twisting, because the chair frame will go up the rear of the car and cantilever over the deck-lid. The tubes that the M22 bolts protrude from need to be sensibly large diameter to provide a rigid base and the cross bar should be ~.120" wall rectangular tubing.

                      Two attaching tabs are welded along the top of the crossbar with 1/2"+ holes at top; axle of chair is pinned in place with "pip" pins or spare axles.
                      Seat-back gets folded up and bungeed closed.

                      The OD of a stock 00 MR2 tire is 23.1" and the height of the vehicle is 49", probably somewhere behind the windshield. Using a guess of Ti wheel OD of 25" I played with perspective and guestimated for comparisons by selecting the proper enlargement of the wheelchair prints based on perspective-extrapolated dimensions of rear of car in photo. To actually make this work, it would need to be "hands-on". I'd love to do it for materials, but am in NJ.
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                      Last edited by pfcs49; 18 Sep 2015, 4:55 PM.
                      69yo male T12 complete since 1995
                      NW NJ

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                        #12
                        The second part needed is a vertical stay to keep the frame upright and cantilevered over the engine bay without the casters hitting.
                        A secondary purpose would be to store/mount the wheels in transit.
                        Simple enough to fabricate out of round mild steel tubing 3/4-1' OD, either as a "T" or two uprights with a flat across the top; either way, the cross-piece needs to exceed the width of the chair frame so it can support it. Holes drilled through the main crossbar to drop it into, and washers welded near the bottom for it to seat onto (better yet, get appropriate sized split collars from MSC, etc, and it will look professional and be adjustable for height.)
                        Simplest? Bungee everything, but I would go a step further.
                        I would get 1/2" ID tubing and cut it to length so my axles would register and lock into it, and tag one as low as I could while mounting the wheel on it so the wheel holds down the cantilevered frame against the support we just made; the other, I'd move it over ~13" and raise it so it comes up through the spokes of the first wheel and accepts the second.
                        It would look real sporty! Kinda like those prints of the old races at Brooklands with the tow wire wheel spares hanging off the rear of the car!

                        When not in use, only the big crossbar would remain with the two mounting tabs for the chair's axle protruding up a bit; the support bracket & wheel mount pulls up and out for storage.

                        Pardon my poor artistry. Also, this is shown without the removable tubular brace/wheel mounting part
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                        69yo male T12 complete since 1995
                        NW NJ

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                          #13
                          Ah, hope Moss was good to you. My dad owns all of them now and I don't even know where they are all located other than England and Santa Barbara. I know he has some others though...

                          My step dad on the other hand is a Ducati guy. Doesn't ride much anymore but sill keeps a beautiful hand made one in the garage...

                          I 'think' I understand what you are talking about fabricating but I can't for the life of me figure out where my wheels go? The main reason I got my Pilot was because I could roll my chair right up into the back and not have to do anything to it. Don't have to take the cushion off or fold the back down, nothing. I just lock the brakes and slip an easy bungie over it and off I go. Easy to unload as well. That is about as much energy and pain as I can take to get it in the Pilot and hold onto the side of the car to get to the front seat.

                          The one thing that I really hate doing to taking apart my chair. It saps vital energy that I just don't have. So my goal would be to do as little as possible to the chair when it is on the car. I know taking off the cushion and folding the back down will be necessary and there is barely enough room for the cushion inside the car. (can't sit on it as I am super tall and my head would be above the windshield!)

                          So I was hoping that the chair with the wheels on and the back folded down could roll up on the back and be strapped down easily. Otherwise I won't be able to handle it all by myself.

                          Does this make sense and would a luggage rack from my dad be easier and would it work? I am guessing we would have to add some kind of hard mesh-like base above the bars because while the back wheels would be fine I don't know how the front of my chair would not sink between the bars...?

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                            #14
                            I designed the rack for your husband to put your chair into it. I assumed he would be driving.if that interests you then I could explain about the tires later.
                            69yo male T12 complete since 1995
                            NW NJ

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